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A big move for your 2019 game with Houston

I hope your silly commissioner is paying attention. I predict that game will either be a sell out or close to it.

2 things he might learn :

That WSU/ Leach has a following that goes beyond the geography of his conference and he should play into that not fight it

He could do some serious disruptive damage to the B12 if he made a move to add Houston to the P12
 
Interesting match up. I realize its next year but right now it would be a 10 v 17. For what its worth I went to a Coug v Coug match up in 1959 in Houston. I'm thinking Keith Lincoln had a big game but 59 year old memories are often a bit fuzzy.
 
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I always enjoyed the Seattle game but don't think the Cougs should give up a home conference game as they did for several years there.
Now if they could get a home and home rivalry with Houston using Seattle I think that would be nice. Or maybe talk Boise St playing there all the time it might be worth it. For some reason they never were able to attract the really big out of conference opponents into it which I thought was the original idea.
 
I always enjoyed the Seattle game but don't think the Cougs should give up a home conference game as they did for several years there.
Now if they could get a home and home rivalry with Houston using Seattle I think that would be nice. Or maybe talk Boise St playing there all the time it might be worth it. For some reason they never were able to attract the really big out of conference opponents into it which I thought was the original idea.

I would enjoy the Seattle game now vs let’s say an SEC team like LSU or ACC team like Florida State, / Clemson

But trying to rebuild the program or having Wulff lead us into that game is ridiculous.

You build up to that sort of thing not have it just to have it
 
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The 2011 game vs Oregon State was a godsend.

Made the "shut up and tailgate" Wulff supporters on the westside have to defend to the friends they invited to the game why they were supporting such a s**tshow.

Was that the game that Floyd just blew a gasket in the suite and demanded Wulff be fired? Or maybe that happened multiple times. ;)
 
Was that the game that Floyd just blew a gasket in the suite and demanded Wulff be fired? Or maybe that happened multiple times. ;)
WSU's greatest president wanted WSU's worst football coach out as early as 2009.

IIRC, strongly suggested in 2009, didn't order. Brand X went "mind your own bizness" about then and Sterk knew he wasn't going to get to hire a 3rd FB coach.
 
I hope your silly commissioner is paying attention. I predict that game will either be a sell out or close to it.

2 things he might learn :

That WSU/ Leach has a following that goes beyond the geography of his conference and he should play into that not fight it

He could do some serious disruptive damage to the B12 if he made a move to add Houston to the P12
Houston's academics isn't good enough despite the TV sets. (UW tried to veto Arizona schools for that 40 years ago) (BYU is vetoed by Cal btw)

And their hoops coach cheats more (or gets caught more) than the Pac 12 coaches.
 
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Was that the game that Floyd just blew a gasket in the suite and demanded Wulff be fired? Or maybe that happened multiple times. ;)

Pretty sure that was in 2009. You can kinda take your pick on which game.
 
Great news! NFL stadium with a retractable roof. I lived in Houston for two years back in the mid-80s after graduation from WSU, so looking forward to checking it out. I haven't been back very often. I know it's grown like crazy and has changed a lot, but so has everywhere else. Houstonians I remember were friendly and hospitable, even to black-platers (the old Michigan license plates), Yankees (I'm not a Yankee -- I'm from the Pacific Northwest, and my relatives were still scraping by in Europe during the Civil War!) and carpetbaggers (okay, you got me, I did move here to take a job that theoretically could have gone to a local). It's a much more genuine place and more authentic Texas than Dallas. In my opinion.
 
Great news! NFL stadium with a retractable roof. I lived in Houston for two years back in the mid-80s after graduation from WSU, so looking forward to checking it out. I haven't been back very often. I know it's grown like crazy and has changed a lot, but so has everywhere else. Houstonians I remember were friendly and hospitable, even to black-platers (the old Michigan license plates), Yankees (I'm not a Yankee -- I'm from the Pacific Northwest, and my relatives were still scraping by in Europe during the Civil War!) and carpetbaggers (okay, you got me, I did move here to take a job that theoretically could have gone to a local). It's a much more genuine place and more authentic Texas than Dallas. In my opinion.

Looking forward to some bull-ridin @ Gilley’s and watchin Rosie make Andre Ware look like a scrub.
Aloha :)
 
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I would enjoy the Seattle game now vs let’s say an SEC team like LSU or ACC team like Florida State, / Clemson

But trying to rebuild the program or having Wulff lead us into that game is ridiculous.

You build up to that sort of thing not have it just to have it
Doba coached a few of them....and it wasn't a good experience.
 
Great news! NFL stadium with a retractable roof. I lived in Houston for two years back in the mid-80s after graduation from WSU, so looking forward to checking it out. I haven't been back very often. I know it's grown like crazy and has changed a lot, but so has everywhere else. Houstonians I remember were friendly and hospitable, even to black-platers (the old Michigan license plates), Yankees (I'm not a Yankee -- I'm from the Pacific Northwest, and my relatives were still scraping by in Europe during the Civil War!) and carpetbaggers (okay, you got me, I did move here to take a job that theoretically could have gone to a local). It's a much more genuine place and more authentic Texas than Dallas. In my opinion.

Houston blows. People are nice.....traffic is not nice. Guarantee that every time that you get in a car, there will be a traffic jam along the way.
 
Houston's academics isn't good enough despite the TV sets. (UW tried to veto Arizona schools for that 40 years ago) (BYU is vetoed by Cal btw)

And their hoops coach cheats more (or gets caught more) than the Pac 12 coaches.

Houston is Tier 1 Research and is starting a medical school. You sure their academics aren't good enough?

And BYU's academics are NOT good enough. Pretty sure all 12 schools would veto them. In fact there would never even be a vote.
 
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Houston's academics isn't good enough despite the TV sets. (UW tried to veto Arizona schools for that 40 years ago) (BYU is vetoed by Cal btw)

And their hoops coach cheats more (or gets caught more) than the Pac 12 coaches.

I thought the only requirement was to be a Tier 1 research institution, which Houston is.
 
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Cougs should take a tack from the SEC and schedule the easiest slate they can. I understand fans here are feeling their oats with the recent success and want to have a TX road bender, but what is the real upside to playing the American Athletic Conference on the road when you already have 9 tough league games and other conferences do not?

If you win, you should have won anyway - and perhaps you get on a couple TX kids' radar, which may or may not ever produce recruiting dividends.

But if you lose, it's an embarrassment, it's likely negative for recruiting, and you start 2019 behind the 8 ball, already nearly out of contention for gold.

Let the losers criticize our soft schedule when we're in contention in November. Know how to play the game...
 
I always enjoyed the Seattle game but don't think the Cougs should give up a home conference game as they did for several years there.
Now if they could get a home and home rivalry with Houston using Seattle I think that would be nice. Or maybe talk Boise St playing there all the time it might be worth it. For some reason they never were able to attract the really big out of conference opponents into it which I thought was the original idea.

Stop the insanity and stupidity. The Seattle game didnt work because it was a bad idea.

Tell me again why WSU spent $60,000,000 on a football ops building to show off??? Tell me again why they spent all that money on a stadium upgrade??? To ship home games somewhere else??? Dumbest idea ever.

Also, YOU GO TO WATCH THE COUGS!!!!!!!

Who cares who they play??? You buy your ticket to see your school play. Not the OTHER SCHOOL!!!
 
Cougs should take a tack from the SEC and schedule the easiest slate they can. I understand fans here are feeling their oats with the recent success and want to have a TX road bender, but what is the real upside to playing the American Athletic Conference on the road when you already have 9 tough league games and other conferences do not?

If you win, you should have won anyway - and perhaps you get on a couple TX kids' radar, which may or may not ever produce recruiting dividends.

But if you lose, it's an embarrassment, it's likely negative for recruiting, and you start 2019 behind the 8 ball, already nearly out of contention for gold.

Let the losers criticize our soft schedule when we're in contention in November. Know how to play the game...

I think there should be one Houston/Boise State caliber team as one of the OOC opponents each season. We need one to get ready for Pac-12 play.

I'm ready for a return to UNLV. Give them a 2-1, with our games at Vegas about 4 years apart.
 
Houston is Tier 1 Research and is starting a medical school. You sure their academics aren't good enough?

And BYU's academics are NOT good enough. Pretty sure all 12 schools would veto them. In fact there would never even be a vote.

Are you suggesting a BYU geology class that suggests the earth isn't more than 6,000 years old isn't good enough?
 
Not sure you’re replying to me, but you get bonus points for guessing WSU’s bowl win over Houston.
in Honolulu.
Win’s over #1 UCLA and Houston were plenty fun in ‘88’.

Or he was replying to me and guessing which game it was where Floyd blew a gasket in the suite. :D
 
Doba coached a few of them....and it wasn't a good experience.

In 2002 we beat Nevada
2003 beat Idaho
2004 loss to Colorado
2005 win Grambling State
2006 win Baylor
2007 win San Diego state

All wins except Colorado in 2004.

Enter the worst coach in Washington State history and one of the worst in the entire conference’s history Paul Wulff

2008 - Oklahoma State - Loss
2009 - Hawaii - Loss
2010 - No Seattle game after that Hawaii embarrassment it was too risky...
2011 - well let’s try it again surely we can beat Oregon State in his 4th year...oh wait no no he couldn’t.

Doba went 5-1 in Seattle
Wulff went 0-3 and essentially ruined whatever shred of “good marketing” that game could muster.

Maybe one day Sacramento State can play there so you can watch your heroes.
 
Stop the insanity and stupidity. The Seattle game didnt work because it was a bad idea.
You know Biggs ranting against your fellow Coug fans isn't a great look. I understand that the economics of the Seattle game never really worked and scheduling a conference game there was truly stupid. All I said was I enjoyed going to Century Link for a Coug game. I'm still not against the game if we can play a reasonably high profile team that won't come to Pullman. There is a lot to dislike about the current hierarchy in college football but it is largely true that the Cougs have to beat somebody reasonably good before anyone pays any attention. The Dogs lost to Auburn and were still ranked. We had to get to 6-1 before we broke into the top 25.
 
I think the Seattle game can work as an occasional -- say, every three or four years or so -- game in September. It was stupid to make it an every-year thing, and moronic to make it a conference game against an opponent with easy travel to the game site. The only thing about that making any sense was getting money from Duck and Beaver fans, but that wasn't nearly worth screwing our team over from a competitiveness standpoint. I don't know anyone who feels differently. But if held every three or four years and characterized as an actual event, in a situation designed to have good weather when the draw might not be so great in Pullman (or as a means to pull in a big program), I could see that working decently and not being a ridiculous idea.
 
Regarding the Seattle game... It's too soon. As with everything, winning changes things. I think it could be a good financial move now that we are above .20 winning percentage. But there's some serious animosity among our bigger financial supporters about that idea. That's something that can potentially happen down the road but the emotions of that need to settle down before we move on that.
 

Bringing back the Seattle game, which clearly failed, isn’t a good look. Suggesting it doesn’t make you look brilliant.
 
Houston blows. People are nice.....traffic is not nice. Guarantee that every time that you get in a car, there will be a traffic jam along the way.
In addition to traffic, things I didn't like about Houston were, in no particular order: fire ants, roaches, humidity, people complaining about how horrible Houston is, lack of zoning, pollution, threat of hurricanes (none hit the area when I was there) and flatness. What I did like were friendly people, excellent Tex Mex and Mexican food and BBQ, thunderstorms, and warm Gulf water at Galveston (did not like having to wash tar off my feet and legs after entering said water though). There are worse places to go see our Cougars play (like Baylor and Waco). I say go to Houston, and maybe catch an NFL game or baseball game in addition to seeing our Cougars.
 
Houston blows. People are nice.....traffic is not nice. Guarantee that every time that you get in a car, there will be a traffic jam along the way.

Sounds a lot like Seattle, make that Everett to Olympia, except the "people are nice" part.

Doba went 5-1 in Seattle

Maybe one day Sacramento State can play there so you can watch your heroes.

I did not know that we played 2 Seattle games during one of Coach Doba's 5 years.
 
I always despised the Seattle games and I don't think we should give up a home game for a game on a neutral site, especially considering how tough we are at home. I know there is s huge crowd but it is still not the same as Martin stadium. I think it’s great letting these teams experience the trip to Pullman and then face a fired up team and crowd.
 
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