A toast…

[Cougatron]

To going to a bowl game for the 7th year in a row fellow Cougs. (pandemic year doesn’t count)

Got a couple more games to go, but going bowling every year should be our goal at a minimum and continually trying to build the program up.

 

[ttowncoug]

Agreed that the perspective of being a bowl program again is good to have.

We've come a LONG ways from the depths of the Wulff/Doba (final) years.

 

[mikalalas]

To going to a bowl game for the 7th year in a row fellow Cougs. (pandemic year doesn’t count)

Got a couple more games to go, but going bowling every year should be our goal at a minimum and continually trying to build the program up.

And WSU did it with multiple coaches, a semi bad, below average coach in Rolo, etc.

Shows WSU has stepped up a level, as a football program, and is a Semi almost semi Big Boy program, and NOT a AW SHUCKS Poor Ole Little Ole WSU program.

And that WSU has TURNED the Corners semi arrived, is a semi good program, is a semi ok, semi good coaching gig, shouldn't be a stepping stone, and proven that can semi consistently win at WSU, and go bowling, regularly, semi consistently, that coaches can win, go bowling at WSU, that it's NOT A coach killer job.

 

[CougPatrol]

There are only a handful of programs that aren't stepping stones. Not sure why that label has always butt hurt so many Coug fans.

Pullman, WA is not a destination city. I love it, you love it, but 99% of coaches wives would prefer to live elsewhere; particularly once their financial ship has come in. That's not an indictment on Pullman or WSU. A lot of people feel that way about Seattle and Oregon as well. If you're not originally from the Northwest, it feels like you're living a million miles away from everything.

 

[ttowncoug]

CP - I'm not "butt hurt" that coaches don't want to stay here. I think the problem for me comes down to credibility. You are telling/convincing kids to come to Pullman and play here and live here. The coach says, "I love it here, don't want to be at another place." Then they bail for greener pastures. That's the "rub" for me.

That said, most have left for more money and resources we just don't have. Leach handled this transition 100x better than Price did. I can't find a lot of fault for them leaving under those circumstances.

 

[CougPatrol]

CP - I'm not "butt hurt" that coaches don't want to stay here. I think the problem for me comes down to credibility. You are telling/convincing kids to come to Pullman and play here and live here. The coach says, "I love it here, don't want to be at another place." Then they bail for greener pastures. That's the "rub" for me.

That doesn't bother me. You commit to the University, to the program, not the coaching staff.

 

[Cougini5591]

There are only a handful of programs that aren't stepping stones. Not sure why that label has always butt hurt so many Coug fans.

Pullman, WA is not a destination city. I love it, you love it, but 99% of coaches wives would prefer to live elsewhere; particularly once their financial ship has come in. That's not an indictment on Pullman or WSU. A lot of people feel that way about Seattle and Oregon as well. If you're not originally from the Northwest, it feels like you're living a million miles away from everything.

I will admit with honor just how much my butt hurts.

WSU should be the final dream destination. Only those who have poisoned hearts, minds, and souls would think otherwise.

 

[mikalalas]

There are only a handful of programs that aren't stepping stones. Not sure why that label has always butt hurt so many Coug fans.

Pullman, WA is not a destination city. I love it, you love it, but 99% of coaches wives would prefer to live elsewhere; particularly once their financial ship has come in. That's not an indictment on Pullman or WSU. A lot of people feel that way about Seattle and Oregon as well. If you're not originally from the Northwest, it feels like you're living a million miles away from everything.

It's not a destination.

There is 2 opposite extremes.

One is POOR OLE LITTLE OLE WSU, AW SHUCKS, LOVEABLE LOSERS, ETC.


The other extreme is that WSU is a destination.


WSU is in the middle between the 2 opposite extremes.


Just because WSU isn't or shouldn't be a stepping stone, etc, coach killer, etc, DOES NOT MEAN ITS A DESTINATION either.


WSU is a better program then Colorado, Arizona, ASU, Ore St, and is about the 7th best program out of 12 in the Pac 12.

Stanford, UCLA could theoretically be worse then WSU, but UCLA despite it's decades of 5-7, 6-6, despite all it's 5 stars, has too much tradition, semi, sub blue blood ish history, and it's only more recently Shaw, Stanford has been bad, etc.

So WSU is in MIDDLE OF PAC 12, just like it's in MIDDLE between AW SHUCKS, and Destination, because WSU IS A MIDDLE PROGRAM now.

 

[mikalalas]

CP - I'm not "butt hurt" that coaches don't want to stay here. I think the problem for me comes down to credibility. You are telling/convincing kids to come to Pullman and play here and live here. The coach says, "I love it here, don't want to be at another place." Then they bail for greener pastures. That's the "rub" for me.

That said, most have left for more money and resources we just don't have. Leach handled this transition 100x better than Price did. I can't find a lot of fault for them leaving under those circumstances.

IN THE PAST.

PAST DIFFERENT THEN PRESENT, FUTURE.

THATS EITHER NOT HOW THINGS ARE NOW OR THINGS ARE HEADED DIFFERENTLY IN FUTURE, IF WSU CONTINUE 5 TO 10 TO 15 more straight bowl game years for about 13 to 17 to 20 to 23 straight or almost straight bowl game seasons.

CONSISTENT DECADES OF WINNING, BOWL GAMES, ETC, CHANGES, CURES EVERYTHING.

 

[mikalalas]

IN THE PAST.

PAST DIFFERENT THEN PRESENT, FUTURE.

THATS EITHER NOT HOW THINGS ARE NOW OR THINGS ARE HEADED DIFFERENTLY IN FUTURE, IF WSU CONTINUE 5 TO 10 TO 15 more straight bowl game years for about 13 to 17 to 20 to 23 straight or almost straight bowl game seasons.

CONSISTENT DECADES OF WINNING, BOWL GAMES, ETC, CHANGES, CURES EVERYTHING.

And WSU has 7 straight bowl game seasons already.

And if count the Bowl games in Leach's 2nd and 4th year, that 7 straight bowl games becomes 9 bowl games in 11,12 years.

Add 5, 10, 15 more straight bowl games, etc, and that would be about 20 bowl games, in about 24 years.

That is or would be or should be game, program changing.

 

[Coug90]

And WSU has 7 straight bowl game seasons already.

And if count the Bowl games in Leach's 2nd and 4th year, that 7 straight bowl games becomes 9 bowl games in 11,12 years.

Add 5, 10, 15 more straight bowl games, etc, and that would be about 20 bowl games, in about 24 years.

That is or would be or should be game, program changing.

I remember the angled wall from the field on the football ops side with a handful of bowl banners duct taped to it In the late 90s. 7 in a row is not insignificant, there’s plenty of programs that would love to say they’d been to 7 straight bowls. We may not be world beaters but we have been a consistently solid program that gives the big boys battles they don’t want more often than not.