Another JC football program is calling it quits

[roses04]

Arizona Western JC is cancelling the football program at the end of this season. The Cougs actually have a DB commit from Arizona western.

http://ktar.com/story/2343857/arizo...-of-state-junior-colleges-giving-up-football/

For the border line football players with grade issues, or that player that just needs another year or two to develop,there will be one less option. You will see more and more JC programs closing over the next few years, as more close it becomes more costly due to increased travel costs. Sad actually, when you look at all the JC teams across the US in the 70's, there are only a handful left.

 

[SaveFerris]

Dontae Powell (OT) is out of Arizona Western as well.

 

[Psyclone]

Arizona Western JC is cancelling the football program at the end of this season. The Cougs actually have a DB commit from Arizona western.

http://ktar.com/story/2343857/arizo...-of-state-junior-colleges-giving-up-football/

For the border line football players with grade issues, or that player that just needs another year or two to develop,there will be one less option. You will see more and more JC programs closing over the next few years, as more close it becomes more costly due to increased travel costs. Sad actually, when you look at all the JC teams across the US in the 70's, there are only a handful left.

I wonder if that's a regional trend. Western Iowa CC just started their football program in 2009 and has had quite a bit of success. Many players end up on D1 teams.

• 2017 11-1 Region XI Champions
• 2016 6-6 Region XI Champions
• 2015 10-2 Region XI Champions
• 2014 11-1 NJCAA National Runner-Up
• 2013 11-1 Region XI Champions | MFC Champions
• 2012 12-0 NJCAA NATIONAL CHAMPIONS | Region XI Champions | MFC Champions
• 2011 9-2 Region XI Champions
• 2010 9-2 MFC Champions
• 2009 5-4 INAUGURAL SEASON

 

[79COUG]

It is sad but budgets are budgets. There was a very good, competitive league in Washington/Oregon during the 70's/early 80's. Some pretty good players and coaches went through the ranks. Don Coryell, who ran a version of the earliest Air Raid, coached at Wenatchee Vally College early in his career.

 

[OrangeGravy]

It is sad but budgets are budgets. There was a very good, competitive league in Washington/Oregon during the 70's/early 80's. Some pretty good players and coaches went through the ranks. Don Coryell, who ran a version of the earliest Air Raid, coached at Wenatchee Vally College early in his career.

Walla Walla CC and Wenatchee Valley held on through some time in the 90's. I'm surprised any exist to be honest. It would seemingly take a big time sponsor to make it work.

I'll be curious to see if the trend moves up the line to the smaller 4 year school leagues

 

[Brent H.]

Walla Walla CC and Wenatchee Valley held on through some time in the 90's. I'm surprised any exist to be honest. It would seemingly take a big time sponsor to make it work.

I'll be curious to see if the trend moves up the line to the smaller 4 year school leagues

IIRC back in the late 80’s and 90’s WSU’s redshirts would play against Walla Walla and though schools during the season.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Walla Walla CC and Wenatchee Valley held on through some time in the 90's. I'm surprised any exist to be honest. It would seemingly take a big time sponsor to make it work.

I'll be curious to see if the trend moves up the line to the smaller 4 year school leagues

It wont touch d3 unless the school as a whole is struggling.

Small d3 schools use football as a way to attract male students. Without it, you would see some schools with a 70/30 female/male ratio, maybe more.

There may be some d2 or NAIA schools that struggle. They arent seeing the pay day that FCS or BCS schools are. They likely, if it is a state school, dont need to use the football program to attract males.

 

[COCoug]

Well I hate to break it to you, but high school football is on a steep decline.
There will inevitably be fewer and fewer college programs, with the most marginal ones folding first.
In the 1940s every college had a boxing team. In the 1970s everybody had a wrestling team. I remember when WSU had a gymnastics team...
20 years from now we will be watching a lot of lacrosse, sand volleyball, and maybe corn hole or drone racing...


High School Football is dying a slow death
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcoo...-death-its-not-just-concussions/#5d6967277540

 

[BiggsCoug]

Well I hate to break it to you, but high school football is on a steep decline.
There will inevitably be fewer and fewer college programs, with the most marginal ones folding first.
In the 1940s every college had a boxing team. In the 1970s everybody had a wrestling team. I remember when WSU had a gymnastics team...
20 years from now we will be watching a lot of lacrosse, sand volleyball, and maybe corn hole or drone racing...


High School Football is dying a slow death
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcoo...-death-its-not-just-concussions/#5d6967277540

High school football and college football are not the same thing. You are wrong when you write that it is inevitabale there will be fewer and fewer college programs. Completely uninformed. The PNW has ADDED college programs in recent years. Football is a $$$ maker for small colleges. It gets male students in the door for $30,000+ per year.

 

[COCoug]

Oh, ok...
I thought there was some connection between football teams and football players, but I guess I was wrong.

The declines in kids playing high school football are seen about 10-fold in kids playing youth football. There are just a ton of parents now who have no intention of letting their son play football, and sooner or later that will affect the sport. Combined with what is now known about CTE, university football programs will have potential liability going forward, just like the NCAA and the NFL. Obviously I don't know what caused this JC program to close, but the same trends that caused boxing to disappear from college sports and become all but forgotten in American culutre is working against football.

Youth football in steep decline
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-football-youth-decline-met-20170904-story.html

 

[BiggsCoug]

Oh, ok...
I thought there was some connection between football teams and football players, but I guess I was wrong.

The declines in kids playing high school football are seen about 10-fold in kids playing youth football. There are just a ton of parents now who have no intention of letting their son play football, and sooner or later that will affect the sport. Combined with what is now known about CTE, university football programs will have potential liability going forward, just like the NCAA and the NFL. Obviously I don't know what caused this JC program to close, but the same trends that caused boxing to disappear from college sports and become all but forgotten in American culutre is working against football.

Youth football in steep decline
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-football-youth-decline-met-20170904-story.html

High school football is a cattle call. College football is not. Colleges are going to search far and wide to fill their roster. They might recruit only 1 or 2 kids per high school team, maybe none at all. The impact from youth to high school is just different than high school to college.

You may see kids get pulled from games and sat down for the year if they reach a certain number of concussions.

 

[Loyal Coug]

High school football and college football are not the same thing. You are wrong when you write that it is inevitabale there will be fewer and fewer college programs. Completely uninformed. The PNW has ADDED college programs in recent years. Football is a $$$ maker for small colleges. It gets male students in the door for $30,000+ per year.

Such as who? College of Idaho is one, who else? And yes they restarted football as a student recruitment technique. Although since enrollment is down 15% since the year before they restarted the program I'm not sure that it is working.

 

[Loyal Coug]

Oh, ok...
I thought there was some connection between football teams and football players, but I guess I was wrong.

The declines in kids playing high school football are seen about 10-fold in kids playing youth football. There are just a ton of parents now who have no intention of letting their son play football, and sooner or later that will affect the sport. Combined with what is now known about CTE, university football programs will have potential liability going forward, just like the NCAA and the NFL. Obviously I don't know what caused this JC program to close, but the same trends that caused boxing to disappear from college sports and become all but forgotten in American culutre is working against football.

Youth football in steep decline
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-football-youth-decline-met-20170904-story.html

Spokane better hurry up and build that $35 million HS stadium!

 

[WASH ST A&M FAN]

The growth of 7-on-7, Showcase Camps, Combines, Spring Football flies in the face of HS Football dying a slow death. If anything, Football is the last sport to join the year long playing & training. But it’s here now & college Frosh are better now than ever.

What is dying are the 20-40 kids that stood on the sidelines & never got any action. The ones out there just to say they were on the team. Often wearing #39 or #61 in an oversized uniform that reflected they all had a load in their pants. They are the ones no longer joining the HS team due to the offseason commitment required now just to get a uni.

 

[froropmkr72]

Such as who? College of Idaho is one, who else? And yes they restarted football as a student recruitment technique. Although since enrollment is down 15% since the year before they restarted the program I'm not sure that it is working.

George Fox...Pacific.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Such as who? College of Idaho is one, who else? And yes they restarted football as a student recruitment technique. Although since enrollment is down 15% since the year before they restarted the program I'm not sure that it is working.

Pacific University and George Fox.

 

[BiggsCoug]

The growth of 7-on-7, Showcase Camps, Combines, Spring Football flies in the face of HS Football dying a slow death. If anything, Football is the last sport to join the year long playing & training. But it’s here now & college Frosh are better now than ever.

What is dying are the 20-40 kids that stood on the sidelines & never got any action. The ones out there just to say they were on the team. Often wearing #39 or #61 in an oversized uniform that reflected they all had a load in their pants. They are the ones no longer joining the HS team due to the offseason commitment required now just to get a uni.

Agree. Youre not seeing the bottom of the roster fill out any more. The pay for play, the summer work outs, the camps, the amount of effort and investment and now the fear of brain damage has chased them all away. Better to stay home and play video games.

 

[CrimsonDisciple]

Well I hate to break it to you, but high school football is on a steep decline.
There will inevitably be fewer and fewer college programs, with the most marginal ones folding first.
In the 1940s every college had a boxing team. In the 1970s everybody had a wrestling team. I remember when WSU had a gymnastics team...
20 years from now we will be watching a lot of lacrosse, sand volleyball, and maybe corn hole or drone racing...


High School Football is dying a slow death
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcoo...-death-its-not-just-concussions/#5d6967277540

It won’t be Lacrosse, it will be Hockey and Soccer. WSU will scramble to get a team together. It’s going to take a visionary President to separate title IX sports from Men’s sports with regards to institutional support. If the school decided that they wanted to protect our PAC 12 affiliation, they’d do it now. Institutionally supporting all women’s teams. All men’s teams would be supported by the Money sports. Create a Men’s soccer and a women’s softball (or gymnastics) team immediately.....start planning towards a hockey team. Again, it would take a visionary that realized that without our PAC 12 affiliation, we may seize to exist a few short decades from now.

 

[Coug90]

“70/30 female/male ratio, maybe more”.

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That alone should attract male students to a school. As much as I love WSU if you could have replicated that environment with a 70/30 ratio of gals to dudes? Go Mud Dogs!

 

[froropmkr72]

That alone should attract male students to a school. As much as I love WSU if you could have replicated that environment with a 70/30 ratio of gals to dudes? Go Mud Dogs!

Seriously, who needs more competition with a wonderful ratio like that? If females entered that school because there's more females......it's all good

 

[BiggsCoug]

That alone should attract male students to a school. As much as I love WSU if you could have replicated that environment with a 70/30 ratio of gals to dudes? Go Mud Dogs!

I dont disagree. I believe the overall environment of a small school may have more to do with it than the ratio.