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Listening to the OSU broadcast today, even their announcers said WSU got screwed twice on PI non-calls in the first half...with the one not called on the end zone pas to Harris being incredibly egregious. They also felt the fake punt pass should have been called PI against the Cougars but were quick to mention that the Beavs got away with the 2 non calls earlier. OSU announcers did not say anything about the call against Marsh on that last drive.
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And when the conference office called the replay booth, mid-USC game in 2018, to "instructed" regarding targeting, it was an innocent and isolated aberration, not part of a pattern to influence officiating! We suffer from Lance Armstrong syndrome in this country. We live in a state of denial, until we are beaten over the head with irrefutable evidence.
You want to ref in the Pac-12 conference on a long term basis, you know what you must do! Tilt the balance as best you can without creating a scandal. Thank god the Beavs were clearly stopped short on the 4th down play, otherwise, that call would have gone their way. Sadly, we know it to be true.
Watch the video, it was actual 2 yards short, but give an "innocent" 1 yard favorable spot, and had he been actually stopped 1 yard short, he would have been given the first down. Then it would have been on the Beavs to snap the ball quickly "before" the review.
I can understand that call against Marsh. I didn't have a problem with that one.
Agree, How. Any time a DB is in the receiver's face and does not look back, he is setting himself up for that call.
Drives me nuts every time I see that. It's a technique that should be drilled into the kids head starting in pee wee ball!
Officiating was typically terrible and wildly one-sided against WSU even though the numbers didn’t look at bad. The PI calls and PIs missed were atrocious and in key situations that caused point swings. And yes there were a handful of missed holding calls that were pretty blatant. With a mashing run team like that the line kind of gets blurred when OLinemen lean on, wrap up then fall on them. It’s not blocking but they let run heavy teams get away with a lot of that. It’s quite impressive they overcame the refs yesterday to win.
There’s no face guarding in college football. He doesn’t need to look back. He was running stride for stride. It was a terrible call. If you see the replay from the end zone camera OSU is extending his arm harm trying to create separation.
This x1000 - Face guarding is not a penalty in college football! That play would be PI in the NFL.
The fake punt non PI was the right call. On that play as long as they aren’t holding which would be a penalty either way they are allowed to make contact because they are usually blocking that gunner on a punt and they have their back to the play. There’s no way for that player to know if it’s a punt or throw. That said, Pac 12 refs…surprised they didn’t blow that one too.
I completely agree and understand what you're saying, AG. However, the chance of getting a PI drops dramatically if you turn your head and make a play at the ball, regardless of what the rules state
These are, after all, Pac refs we have to deal with. Not the sharpest tacks in the box.
A good receiver doesn’t show the ball is on the way until the last mili second so just turning around and making a play isn’t as easy as it sounds.
Which is exactly why I was a lineman...lol. As my old man used to say, strong back, weak mind😁
They don’t have a face guard call in the college game . You can’t play it better than marsh did. When are in that position he did exactly what you are taught, get the ball out with your inside arm
Several of you on this string have made this point. I assume you are correct from a "rules" standpoint; frankly, I have a hard time keeping up with the differences in the rules at the midget, HS, college and pro levels. It has been a long, long time since I played and officiated at the HS level. However, the missed calls will continue when no attempt is made to look back, because in real time it is too hard for the official to see it all clearly...and if a guy never looks back, he can't excuse contact (or perceived contact) by indicating that he was also going for the ball. Sure, you might get it reversed on replay if there is an angle that shows no contact. But it is poor practice, inviting a flag, and I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on whether "you can't play it better". Rules that make missed calls likely (or even just "more likely") are often not good rules.
You may have been the one that mentioned before that WSU seems to suffer a bias against us in actually getting PI calls in our favor because we are pass-heavy and that refs are not going to call PI against our opponents over and over and over. However, I'm hard-pressed to actually recall a single time when we have benefited from a PI call. Like really, when was the last time? I know its happened, but what do we get..Like 3 per season? That's all I have to say about that
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Walden on his radio calls objected to 50% or greater PI calls even those benefitting WSU.
He objected to how PI was being called mostly. And partly his old school Dixie pass hating outlook - old school southerners objected to the passing game. Odd for a former QB
Who was it that said "3 things can result from a pass and 2 of them are bad"?
Bo, Woody?
That sounds like Woody, but it may not have originated with him. All those guys were great for repeating good lines from other people.
After doing a quick Google, it seems as though Darrell Royal at Texas in 1962 was first credited. Makes sense as those were the old wishbone days of the SWC.
However, in a 2005 interview he credited Woody Hayes, his close friend, with first saying it.
So who knows?
Actually that is how it is taught so when you look back you don’t lose contact with the man . Marsh got his hand in there and got the ball out as it cam down .
I was a huge fan of the holding call on Kingston. After the call he had a dumbfounded look on his face lik....."Huh?"
That umpire has screwed the Cougs multiple times over the years. New commish needs to clean this mess up.
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