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Anyone own a Tesla?

I’m seeing more and more of those. I agree ugly AF. I drive a Rivian and it’s amazing.
If I had the scratch I'd probably spring for a Rivian, but I'm just driving my old ICE vehicle until the engine and transmission die. I'll let companies keep iterating on EVs and let the infrastructure improve for a few more years. I want one, but I want to be able to charge it more conveniently. I am optimistic about the heavy R&D going on in the battery space. If the packs end up carrying sodium instead of lithium, for example, that'd be huge
 
I’m a terribly cynical person by nature and make fun of people that drive pickups when they have little need for them. Especially these days with the oversized and overpriced monstrosities we see on the roads. They quite effectively appeal to satisfying some men’s libidos and addressing their insecurities.
The first company that figures out an electric version of the old compact Toyotas or Rangers ought to make a mint. I'd be first in line. I don't want a full size truck and don't need it
 
The first company that figures out an electric version of the old compact Toyotas or Rangers ought to make a mint. I'd be first in line. I don't want a full size truck and don't need it
I’d be 100% interested in something like that. I’d like a smaller practical sized pickup. Probably won’t happen anytime soon though.
 
Is that really what it stands for? If so, I had no idea.

And M-I, no kidding. I know people who get their groceries at Fred Meyer, at times because one item is on sale at perhaps Winco prices. Ever shop there? Unbelievably expensive, but I guess the well-heeled whiteys in YakiVegas can avoid all those dirty Mexicans by shopping there. And yes I run into people that have never even heard of Winco, even though it is right next door to Costco.

I like how Winco posts the prices of other stores on its items, particularly produce. Safeway routinely clocks in at double the price. I might grab an item or 2 at Safeway occasionally just because it is close by and I have a club card, but my weekly stock up trip is to Winco. I buy 1 item and I've already paid for the $1 in extra gas it took to get there.
Fed Meyer is just a depressing place to shop. What isn’t locked up is out of stock.

WinCo is one of the few places I can still find frozen OJ. Love the bulk section.
 
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You are IN MAJOR MISS by not having the Costco Visa

Besides the gas pricing... besides the awesome cheap and high quality products... besides the easiest return policy on the planet...

The cash back rewards in untouchable as you get money back from Costco and then a 2nd seperate kick from Visa.

I have almost all the house bills, insurance bills, etc... on auto pay through the card...

I have a relatively large amount of travel as well...

I am normally around $2000 a year in cash back.
Agreed! And all of my travel and vacations go on it, because of the annual 3% cash rebate, which is pretty significant!

Plus, the gas is a no brainer.

We forgot to plug Trader Joe’s.

Got to be up there as my all time favorite!
 
You mean you don't like your bread, eggs, and tomatoes on the bottom of the bag?! You monster...

I worked as a CCK after graduation for a handful of months, and I loved the challenge of playing Tetris with each bag and placing the items correctly in bag (plastic versus paper was another fun game).
Well, my grocery bags never have tomatoes in them, because those are disgusting.

But I have seen kids put bags of chips or loaves of bread under canned goods or packages of meat. The one that really boggles my mind though is when they put gallons of milk and bottles of laundry soap - things that have their own handles - into a grocery bag. And usually, they put the gallon of milk into its own individual bag. Once I went into a store, I bought milk, bread, and eggs, and they gave me 3 bags. SMH.
 
Well, my grocery bags never have tomatoes in them, because those are disgusting.

But I have seen kids put bags of chips or loaves of bread under canned goods or packages of meat. The one that really boggles my mind though is when they put gallons of milk and bottles of laundry soap - things that have their own handles - into a grocery bag. And usually, they put the gallon of milk into its own individual bag. Once I went into a store, I bought milk, bread, and eggs, and they gave me 3 bags. SMH.
Ha! That's crazy, three bags for three items? Sheesh. Unless requested, anything that had a handle (milk, laundry soap, soda, etc.) would just go right back in the cart.

I unload my cart at the belt now with heavier items first so it's almost foolproof they don't F it up. They'll always find a way though.
 
Ha! That's crazy, three bags for three items? Sheesh. Unless requested, anything that had a handle (milk, laundry soap, soda, etc.) would just go right back in the cart.

I unload my cart at the belt now with heavier items first so it's almost foolproof they don't F it up. They'll always find a way though.
I do that too, and if they’d just bag in the order I gave stuff, they’d be fine. But they push things off to the side and do what they want.
Another thing that bugs me - bread and chips. I used to put those on top of heavier items in bags. I now put those on the belt last, so that they can top the other bags with bread or chips…but they pretty consistently just give me a bag of bread and chips
 
I do that too, and if they’d just bag in the order I gave stuff, they’d be fine. But they push things off to the side and do what they want.
Another thing that bugs me - bread and chips. I used to put those on top of heavier items in bags. I now put those on the belt last, so that they can top the other bags with bread or chips…but they pretty consistently just give me a bag of bread and chips
Ha, any time bread and chips came through, I was excited to get those to top off bags. It isn't rocket science, and I wish people cared with a little more effort...
 
This topic is a lot more fun! :)

On meat, I rarely eat beef for health reasons. Mostly chicken breasts, with the occasional lean-looking pork roast. Which I always check for at Winco
. Sometimes those things are like $2.29/pound. Throw it in the crock pot, then pork tacos, pork sandwiches, big chunk of just pork. Lean as chicken. Yum.

I like "Winning Company". Nice contrast to most of this board, which I refer to as "whining company". See how I did that?

Edit - in keeping on topic, I'll start counting how many Teslas are in the Winco parking lot when I go there. Speaking of which, I've seen exactly one Cybertruck in town. Was laughing so hard and trying not to run off the road that I didn't catch what the driver looked like.
Wait, I'm confused...I thought you were strictly on a cats and dogs diet regarding meat? That's all I have to say about that
 
Ha, any time bread and chips came through, I was excited to get those to top off bags. It isn't rocket science, and I wish people cared with a little more effort...
I hated canned foods. They were great for building a base, but there were people who complained I made the bags too heavy if there were more than 2 cans in them
 
My wife shops at Winco. I’ve never liked the place. Feels cheap (not in a good way) and borderline dirty.

There are two in town now, one of them is in an area of routine violent crime. The other had a woman shot inside it a couple years ago by some loon who thought she was one of the aliens chasing him.

The wife doesn’t like when I shop because her Winco carts are much cheaper than mine. I really don’t much care what things cost, I buy what I need. I’ll wave off the impulse buys and discretionary stuff if it’s full price, but for staples and regular ingredients…I don’t even look at the price tag.

My store of choice is Yokes. I’m fully aware that prices are higher than other places, but I’m willing to pay a premium for a clean, quiet store, well-stocked with what I want, and not overrun with the people of Walmart. Never once have I found a soiled diaper or rotted produce on a Yokes shelf. I’ve seen both at Walmart more than once…and wouldn’t be that surprised to find them at Winco. Honestly, I’m such a grocery snob that even a lot of Safeway and Albertsons stores seem a bit low-rent to me (plus there’s the Boise State problem that keeps me away from Albertsons).

My near-universal complaint though - as a former longtime grocery employee (who including a stint at Dissmores) - the ability to properly bag groceries is a skill that is completely lost on the current generation. Kids today clearly missed out on model building, basic physics, or at least some Tetris, and have no ability to perform the slightest spatial organization.
The "beauty" of winco (aside from all your other excellent points) is that you get to bag your own groceries and do it right! Taihtsat
 
I hated canned foods. They were great for building a base, but there were people who complained I made the bags too heavy if there were more than 2 cans in them
Lol, sounds like you and I dealt with the same customers!
 
Wait, I'm confused...I thought you were strictly on a cats and dogs diet regarding meat? That's all I have to say about that
The "beauty" of winco (aside from all your other excellent points) is that you get to bag your own groceries and do it right! Taihtsat
That’s true, but then what would I complain about?
In order:

No cats, too bony. Fat dogs taste sort of like pork roast if slow-cooked. So same thing.

Yes, I'm laughing at all the bitching about 16-year-old bag boys F-ing up the bagging. I enjoy bagging my own at Winco, and planning for it as I place my items in proper order on the conveyor belt. Frozen and cold stuff together, cans and heavy stuff first, beer at the end.

And there are plenty of things to complain about. Cougar Football comes to mind today......... :)
 
It's great for basics, IMO.
And their prices are good, plus Trader Joes' only sell proven, good (their own brand) stuff.

I really like their business model, (not a huge footprint warehouse, and extremely helpful employees), but the only downside is their model is just in time (JIT) inventory and deliveries, so certain favorites, or high in demand items are out of stock late in the PM, until next truck arrives.

Other than that, fantastic quality and not overpriced.
 
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I guess I'll chime in. Living in SoCal, Vons is our version of Safeway and the two feel pretty much the same. Our Albertsons feels just like the one off Pines in the Spokane Valley. Our Wallmart and Sam's Club are the same or worse than in E WA (my sisters refer to the Spokane Valley ones as the LCD - Lowest Common Denominator - stores). Costco strives to have at least a small amount of local feel and is therefore not exactly the same anywhere you go, but it is great for bulk items and not quite ripe produce. We also have several smaller grocery store groups and the best large Mexican supermarket chain (maybe in the world): Northgate. Albertsons is my go to, but I love going into Northgate for certain things and Costco is great. The comment on the Costco card is good, but I fly back and forth to WA often enough that the Alaska card makes sense for me. Alaska rules from a north/south standpoint in the West.

TJ's is TJ's, everywhere you go.

Related, I also go back and forth between Home Depot (their parking lot is the local non-union, usually illegal hiring hall), Lowes (their parking lot is not like Home Depot's from a hiring hall standpoint, but Lowes parking lot is full of Wallmart carts from the adjacent store), and my local Ace Hardware, where I always go first if I get there in time before they close at 6:00 pm.

I'll finish by noting that going to Ace Hardware is my "kid in a candy store" moment, most of the time...
 
I guess I'll chime in. Living in SoCal, Vons is our version of Safeway and the two feel pretty much the same. Our Albertsons feels just like the one off Pines in the Spokane Valley. Our Wallmart and Sam's Club are the same or worse than in E WA (my sisters refer to the Spokane Valley ones as the LCD - Lowest Common Denominator - stores). Costco strives to have at least a small amount of local feel and is therefore not exactly the same anywhere you go, but it is great for bulk items and not quite ripe produce. We also have several smaller grocery store groups and the best large Mexican supermarket chain (maybe in the world): Northgate. Albertsons is my go to, but I love going into Northgate for certain things and Costco is great. The comment on the Costco card is good, but I fly back and forth to WA often enough that the Alaska card makes sense for me. Alaska rules from a north/south standpoint in the West.

TJ's is TJ's, everywhere you go.

Related, I also go back and forth between Home Depot (their parking lot is the local non-union, usually illegal hiring hall), Lowes (their parking lot is not like Home Depot's from a hiring hall standpoint, but Lowes parking lot is full of Wallmart carts from the adjacent store), and my local Ace Hardware, where I always go first if I get there in time before they close at 6:00 pm.

I'll finish by noting that going to Ace Hardware is my "kid in a candy store" moment, most of the time...
I love Ace and True Value. You can get in and out for a .19 fastener in 7 minutes. Big Box, not only do you have to buy a plastic box for $12, (anti-theft, and I don't mind the extra fasteners in my shop), but it's a minimum of 20 minutes, or more....bathrooms in the very back, (good excercise, though). Weak help.

Between the two, I like Lowes better, but Home Depot appears to earn more revenue.

Bottom line, Ace and True Value blows away Big Box for small one-off projects. Quicker, cheaper, and the help is usually exceptional.
 
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I guess I'll chime in. Living in SoCal, Vons is our version of Safeway and the two feel pretty much the same. Our Albertsons feels just like the one off Pines in the Spokane Valley. Our Wallmart and Sam's Club are the same or worse than in E WA (my sisters refer to the Spokane Valley ones as the LCD - Lowest Common Denominator - stores). Costco strives to have at least a small amount of local feel and is therefore not exactly the same anywhere you go, but it is great for bulk items and not quite ripe produce. We also have several smaller grocery store groups and the best large Mexican supermarket chain (maybe in the world): Northgate. Albertsons is my go to, but I love going into Northgate for certain things and Costco is great. The comment on the Costco card is good, but I fly back and forth to WA often enough that the Alaska card makes sense for me. Alaska rules from a north/south standpoint in the West.

TJ's is TJ's, everywhere you go.

Related, I also go back and forth between Home Depot (their parking lot is the local non-union, usually illegal hiring hall), Lowes (their parking lot is not like Home Depot's from a hiring hall standpoint, but Lowes parking lot is full of Wallmart carts from the adjacent store), and my local Ace Hardware, where I always go first if I get there in time before they close at 6:00 pm.

I'll finish by noting that going to Ace Hardware is my "kid in a candy store" moment, most of the time...
I love Ace and True Value. You can get in and out for a .19 fastener in 7 minutes. Big Box, not only do you have to buy a plastic box for $12, (anti-theft, and I don't mind the extra fasteners in my shop), but it's a minimum of 20 minutes, or more....bathrooms in the very back, (good excercise, though). Weak help.

Between the two, I like Lowes better, but Home Depot appears to earn more revenue.

Bottom line, Ace and True Value blows away Big Box for small one-off projects. Quicker, cheaper, and the help is usually exceptional.
Home Depot and Lowe's and Ace - agree with the above - the big stores are not much if any cheaper for hardware, etc. than Ace. And a pain in the ass to shop at.

Clientele - here in YakiVegas where half the population is Hispanic, the difference between a Winco and say Fred Meyer is striking. Winco, mostly Hispanic. Fred Meyer, very white and twice as expensive. Location in town makes a big difference too. I stopped at a mid-town Safeway a couple of weks ago for beer. 6 hours later there was a double (drug-related we think) murder in the parking lot probably 200 feet from where I had parked. That said, the Hispanics are quite nice in general. Although it still kills me how often I go to the store, doctor, wherever and many patrons can't speak a word of English. If you are bi-lingual out here, you can get a job.

Funny side note, when in Winco I will often see Hispanics in Coug gear. I'll walk over and point to my shirt and theirs and say "Go Cougs". They have no clue what I am talking about. Then they go "oh" and sort of grin. Crazy Gringo.
 
Funny side note, when in Winco I will often see Hispanics in Coug gear. I'll walk over and point to my shirt and theirs and say "Go Cougs". They have no clue what I am talking about. Then they go "oh" and sort of grin. Crazy Gringo.

Does that mean that they bought the Coug gear at the local Goodwill?
 
Does that mean that they bought the Coug gear at the local Goodwill?
Probably. I occasionally go to Goodwill to buy used books (I got most of my Jack Reacher books there over the years for a couple of bucks each). Was in there one day and this 50-ish non-English Hispanic guy and his wife were looking at a Coug sort-of letterman style jacket. $10. I bought it and gave it to him.
 
I guess I'll chime in. Living in SoCal, Vons is our version of Safeway and the two feel pretty much the same. Our Albertsons feels just like the one off Pines in the Spokane Valley. Our Wallmart and Sam's Club are the same or worse than in E WA (my sisters refer to the Spokane Valley ones as the LCD - Lowest Common Denominator - stores). Costco strives to have at least a small amount of local feel and is therefore not exactly the same anywhere you go, but it is great for bulk items and not quite ripe produce. We also have several smaller grocery store groups and the best large Mexican supermarket chain (maybe in the world): Northgate. Albertsons is my go to, but I love going into Northgate for certain things and Costco is great. The comment on the Costco card is good, but I fly back and forth to WA often enough that the Alaska card makes sense for me. Alaska rules from a north/south standpoint in the West.

TJ's is TJ's, everywhere you go.

Related, I also go back and forth between Home Depot (their parking lot is the local non-union, usually illegal hiring hall), Lowes (their parking lot is not like Home Depot's from a hiring hall standpoint, but Lowes parking lot is full of Wallmart carts from the adjacent store), and my local Ace Hardware, where I always go first if I get there in time before they close at 6:00 pm.

I'll finish by noting that going to Ace Hardware is my "kid in a candy store" moment, most of the time...

I love Ace and True Value. You can get in and out for a .19 fastener in 7 minutes. Big Box, not only do you have to buy a plastic box for $12, (anti-theft, and I don't mind the extra fasteners in my shop), but it's a minimum of 20 minutes, or more....bathrooms in the very back, (good excercise, though). Weak help.

Between the two, I like Lowes better, but Home Depot appears to earn more revenue.

Bottom line, Ace and True Value blows away Big Box for small one-off projects. Quicker, cheaper, and the help is usually exceptional.
I may be wrong on this, but I think Von's parent company is Safeway. Pretty sure them and Eagle (??) up in Alaska are all the same family. Growing up, my family shopped at Safeway a lot, and I mostly shopped at Safeway when I lived in Pullman. Since then, they've gone downhill in my book. I was never a big fan of Albertsons, pretty much thought they were a low-rent version of Safeway that was maintained at a level that was constantly right at the edge of needing upgrade/remodel. Since Safeway and ALbertsons joined forces, I feel like ALbertsons dragged Safeway to their level, rather than SAfeway lifting ALbertsons up. Now I avoid both.

In the home improvement sector, if I need something that requires help, or if I need a small something - I go to Ace. Special orders and 1-offs, Lowe's and Home Depot can't compete with them. I recently needed a replacement screw for a cabinet handle, and at Ace I could buy a pack of 2. At Lowes, they came in a box of 20. For the standard purchases though, I go to Lowes. Tools, pipe fittings, etc...the stuff that I know what I need and where to get it, Lowes. Part of it is that they're closer to my house. Part of it is that they're open past 6. Part of it is that I just like them better than Home Depot, even if I can't say exactly why (maybe it's that obnoxious orange?).
 
I may be wrong on this, but I think Von's parent company is Safeway. Pretty sure them and Eagle (??) up in Alaska are all the same family. Growing up, my family shopped at Safeway a lot, and I mostly shopped at Safeway when I lived in Pullman. Since then, they've gone downhill in my book. I was never a big fan of Albertsons, pretty much thought they were a low-rent version of Safeway that was maintained at a level that was constantly right at the edge of needing upgrade/remodel. Since Safeway and ALbertsons joined forces, I feel like ALbertsons dragged Safeway to their level, rather than SAfeway lifting ALbertsons up. Now I avoid both.

In the home improvement sector, if I need something that requires help, or if I need a small something - I go to Ace. Special orders and 1-offs, Lowe's and Home Depot can't compete with them. I recently needed a replacement screw for a cabinet handle, and at Ace I could buy a pack of 2. At Lowes, they came in a box of 20. For the standard purchases though, I go to Lowes. Tools, pipe fittings, etc...the stuff that I know what I need and where to get it, Lowes. Part of it is that they're closer to my house. Part of it is that they're open past 6. Part of it is that I just like them better than Home Depot, even if I can't say exactly why (maybe it's that obnoxious orange?).
You have said everything that mirrors my feelings.

Yes, the obnoxious orange apron, and Lowes's has an overall neater look and appearance on everything it does. Funny though, they both copy each other on almost every item and category.

Home Depot brings in the cheap Halloween monster standee crap, then Lowe's copies. Now we see Costco doing it.

Agree. Easier to pick up a couple of fasteners at Ace or True Value, than a box at Big Box.

But yeah, the Orange aprons.....are pretty bad.
 
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