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Apple Cup - Traitorous version (vent thread) Predictions

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Thanks to Vet Tix, I will be going to this game. Even had I not gotten tickets through them, I would most likely still go. Do I like the new normal? Eff to the M-f'n NO! But I live one 40 min train ride to the stadium and I love the Cougs regardless of what's happening right now so, I will be there for them.

The Undaunted - 31

The Conspirators - 20
 
WSU: 32(2 TD's, 6 FG's)

UW: 29(2 TD's , 5 FG's)

Mateer 293 yards passing 1 TD

93 yards rushing.

RB's 26 carries for 142 yards rushing, 1 Rushing TD.

WSU forces 1 UW turnover.

WSU sacks UW QB, 1,2 times, QB hurries, 2,3,4,5 TFL's

WSU defense plays bend, don't break.
 
Thanks to Vet Tix, I will be going to this game. Even had I not gotten tickets through them, I would most likely still go. Do I like the new normal? Eff to the M-f'n NO! But I live one 40 min train ride to the stadium and I love the Cougs regardless of what's happening right now so, I will be there for them.

The Undaunted - 31

The Conspirators - 20
Go cheer us on to victory. I can’t make the trip west this weekend but still would if I could.
 
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I predict I will get ugly with any husky fan who gives me shit in a dyck like fashion
Oh exactly why I have never set foot in Husky stadium.

Have I told this Apple Cup story? I'm pretty sure it was the 2008 game when we came back and beat them. My memory is foggy, but it was an Apple Cup win. We were losing late, and since I hate to be in Martin with those F-ers taunting us (cuz I try to avoid fights), we left and went to the RV lot. Some punk mutt was out there with his Coug "friends", talking shit to every Coug that walked by. I stopped, then kept walking and he flipped me shit. I stopped again, and he flipped me more shit. My then-wife said "C'mon Loyal" and the mutt said "listen to your woman". So I turned around, threw him to the pavement and started choking the f-ing life out of him. His buddies dragged me off of him saying "he's only 20" and I'm pretty sure some chick kicked me in the ribs in the process. Cuz I ended up with a broken rib which I didn't feel until the next day. And he didn't mouth off once he got to his feet.

Anyway, we tied the game and I ran back to Martin to watch us pull it out. And yes I was pretty shit-faced all through that.
 
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Oh exactly why I have never set foot in Husky stadium.

Have I told this Apple Cup story? I'm pretty sure it was the 2008 game when we came back and beat them. My memory is foggy, but it was an Apple Cup win. We were losing late, and since I hate to be in Martin with those F-ers taunting us (cuz I try to avoid fights), we left and went to the RV lot. Some punk mutt was out there with his Coug "friends", talking shit to every Coug that walked by. I stopped, then kept walking and he flipped me shit. I stopped again, and he flipped me more shit. My then-wife said "C'mon Loyal" and the mutt said "listen to your woman". So I turned around, threw him to the pavement and started choking the f-ing life out of him. His buddies dragged me off of him saying "he's only 20" and I'm pretty sure some chick kicked me in the ribs in the process. Cuz I ended up with a broken rib which I didn't feel until the next day. And he didn't mouth off once he got to his feet.

Anyway, we tied the game and I ran back to Martin to watch us pull it out. And yes I was pretty shit-faced all through that.
2012 we came back from 18 down. 2008 was the crapple cup…when we were 1-10 and they were 0-11.
 
2012 we came back from 18 down. 2008 was the crapple cup…when we were 1-10 and they were 0-11.
It was 2008. In 2012 we left the game when we were down 18 and nearby mutts were taunting us. Made it home in time to see the comeback. One of my many regrets (leaving early), but at the time getting into a fistfight and landing in jail was low on my list of priorities. :)
 

First look: Washington State faces rival Washington in nonconference, neutral-site Apple Cup​


By Greg Woods
gregw@spokesman.com
(509) 459-5587

Sept. 9, 2024 Updated Mon., Sept. 9, 2024 at 8:38 p.m.

PULLMAN – Here is a first look at Washington State’s neutral-site game against rival Washington this weekend in Seattle.

What is it?

In the first nonconference Apple Cup, WSU and UW will meet again, this time in a neutral-site capacity.

Where is it?

Lumen Field in Seattle.

When is it?

Kickoff is set for 12:30 p.m.

Where can I watch it?

Peacock will stream the game.

Who is favored?

Washington was about a four-point favorite in most sportsbooks as of Monday morning.

How did the Cougars fare last week?

In a 37-16 home win over Texas Tech, WSU quarterback John Mateer shattered the program record for single-game rushing yards by a QB, totaling 197 on the night. That helped the Cougars rack up 301 as a team, just the sixth time in nearly a quarter century the team has eclipsed that mark, and the hosts never really faced any trouble putting this one away.

WSU’s defense also recorded four takeaways: Two interceptions, a fumble recovery and a recovery of a muffed opening kickoff, which paved the way for Mateer’s short rushing touchdown, good for an early 7-0 lead.

Texas Tech countered with a field goal, but that’s about when WSU began to run away with things. True freshman running back Wayshawn Parker broke free for a 43-yard touchdown rush, and power back Djouvensky Schlenbaker followed with a short scoring plunge, made possible by WSU linebacker Buddah Al-Uqdah’s forced fumble, recovery and ensuing return, all the way down to the Red Raiders’ 2-yard line.

That set the tone for the Cougs’ defense, which quieted a Red Raiders offense that had put up 52 points the week prior. The hosts got interceptions from redshirt freshman cornerback Ethan O’Connor and senior nickelback Kapena Gushiken, the latter of whom snared a fluttering pass caused by edge rusher Quinn Roff’s hit on Tech quarterback Behren Morton.

If WSU ran into any trouble, it came in two areas: tackling and special teams. The Cougs missed 19 tackles, which comes a week after missing 17 in a win over FCS Portland State. Al-Uqdah whiffed on three tackles, and four Cougars missed two apiece: defensive tackle Khalil Laufau, linebacker Kyle Thornton and safeties Tanner Moku and Tyson Durant, the latter of whom also broke up two fourth-down passes.

“That’s the Tyson Durant I saw from the day he showed up all the way through fall camp,” WSU coach Jake Dickert said. “Really proud of him. Whether it was nerves or excitement the first game, whatever it was, he took hard coaching and he learned and got better. And I thought that’s what you saw in that film, and we will need him to keep developing, but that was a big step in the right direction, and he quarterbacked our defense against a really tough offense.”

On the special teams front, it’s becoming clear how much WSU is missing punter Nick Haberer, whose back injury has now held him out of each of the first two games of the season. He’s also the holder on field goals and extra points, prompting Mateer to take his place in that role, and kicker Dean Janikowski missed an extra point in this one. Janikowski is also taking over the punting duties, booting five on Saturday for an average of 42.2 yards per punt.

Scouting Washington …

New Big Ten member UW has opened the season with wins over FCS Weber State and FBS Eastern Michigan, topping the Wildcats 35-3 and the Eagles 30-9. Under first-year coach Jedd Fisch and transfer quarterback Will Rogers, who came over from Mississippi State, the Huskies haven’t had much trouble dispatching the first two opponents on their schedule.

There are lots of unknowns surrounding Washington’s team, though. The Huskies lost many of the players that keyed their run to last year’s national title game, including offensive pieces like QB Michael Penix Jr., receivers Rome Odunze, Ja’Lynn Polk and Germie Bernard, plus their entire starting offensive line. Defenders like edge Bralen Trice, DB Jabar Muhammad and linebacker Edefuan Ulofoshio have also departed.

Add in the fact that UW hasn’t yet been tested and you get lots of question marks.

“I think this is one of the most physical front sevens that I’ve seen in a while,” Dickert said. “I think their defensive backs have been up to every challenge. They’re yet to give up a touchdown. So obviously our guys will be really excited to play. I think they know what’s on the line. It’s an opportunity to be 1-0, and to get the Apple Cup back in Pullman is a big deal.”

The Huskies have also found themselves on the wrong ends of slow starts in their first two games. In Week 1, UW and Weber State were scoreless after one quarter, and in Week 2, Eastern Michigan took a 3-0 lead after one frame.

But the Huskies got going both times, thanks in part to running back Jonah Coleman, who Fisch brought over from Arizona. He posted 104 yards on 11 carries in Week 1 and 127 yards on 16 carries in Week 2, kickstarting UW’s offense on the ground.

What happened last time?

Washington walked it off with a game-winning field goal in last year’s Apple Cup, securing a 24-21 win over WSU. That was set up by the Huskies’ fourth-and-1 conversion deep in their own territory in the fourth quarter, a long run by Odunze.

The Cougs tied it up in the fourth frame on a touchdown pass from former QB Cam Ward to former receiver Lincoln Victor, and after forcing a punt on the Huskies’ next series, they could have taken the lead. But Ward couldn’t connect on third-and-long and WSU had to punt.

In that one, Ward completed 32 of 48 passes for 317 yards, three touchdowns and two interceptions.
 
I am rooting for the Cougs all the way, but I don’t see them winning the gam

WSU has too many question marks in all 3 phases. On offense we have a QB who is not an accurate passer, and lacks touch, and when he is accurate we have receivers that can’t catch the ball, 6 drops last eeek. Running game had been ok, since Tech kept dropping7-8 in coverage, once teams realize they don’t need to do that, the running game is gone.

On defense, have trouble stopping the run and with this back from AZ, he’s a load. Pass rush has been poor at best, so their QB will pick us apart with time. Haven’t seen him play, but if he played with Leach for 2 years we know he’s accurate.

Special teams, our great punter is still out, and our FG kicker can’t make a FG when it counts.

I hope I am wrong with all of these points.

Winning the turnover battle big is the only chance the Cougs have staying in this game. Keep in mind the UW qb hasn’t thrown an int all year,
 
WSU: 32(2 TD's, 6 FG's)

UW: 29(2 TD's , 5 FG's)

Mateer 293 yards passing 1 TD

93 yards rushing.

RB's 26 carries for 142 yards rushing, 1 Rushing TD.

WSU forces 1 UW turnover.

WSU sacks UW QB, 1,2 times, QB hurries, 2,3,4,5 TFL's

WSU defense plays bend, don't break.
This score prediction tracks so hard...
 
Team will go as the passing game goes.

Its been a while since we've seen ineptness across the board in the WR corps. The inability to play pass and catch will doom this team going forward this season, so either they fix it or they won't.

Dollar seems to be a viable target. I would like to see a lot of RPO that involves Dollar running short and intermediate routes and JM using his legs when the mutts start cheating on it.

No pooch kicks.
 
I played the mutts in CFB25 the other night. I was up 21-7 at halftime and held on for a 28-21 win. Recovered an onside kick attempt and had to make one first down before I went into victory formation at their 25 yard line.

It should have been an easier win but I couldn't convert on 4th down in the red zone near the end of the first half. I took Dickert's advice and shook off the adversity and moved on.
 
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I played the mutts in CFB25 the other night. I was up 21-7 at halftime and held on for a 28-21 win. Recovered an onside kick attempt and had to make one first down before I went into victory formation at their 25 yard line.

It should have been an easier win but I couldn't convert on 4th down in the red zone near the end of the first half. I took Dickert's advice and shook off the adversity and moved on.
Can you piss on their W in CFB 25?
 
I played the mutts in CFB25 the other night. I was up 21-7 at halftime and held on for a 28-21 win. Recovered an onside kick attempt and had to make one first down before I went into victory formation at their 25 yard line.

It should have been an easier win but I couldn't convert on 4th down in the red zone near the end of the first half. I took Dickert's advice and shook off the adversity and moved on.
I had a similar game. I was up 21-7 at half. Should have been 28-0, but the machine decided it wanted to score, so it did.

Came out and had 6 sacks and 4 INTs in the 2nd half. Ended up 52-21.

Lost both my running backs though. .
 
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I just bought tickets and I’m going.

I like Jake Dickert. I think he’s a good coach and good for WSU. There is an AC thread on X where somebody linked a segment of Coach with Puck on his podcast. Dickert asked for our support reasonably, he was right and so I got the tix and I’m assembling a crew.

Nostalgia wins and so will the Cougs 22-19.

Cougs have a lot of team speed and enthusiasm on defense. We may lack depth necessary to survive an entire season on top but the starters are clicking right now and they’re having fun.

Offense: Mateer. Cougs have never had a running QB like this and I’m intrigued. Ricky Turner was more of a RB who took snaps but, he did win an Apple Cup 🍎

Rain: doesn’t look like much rain and besides, the air at Lumen swirls high above and unless you’re in the first six rows or on the field, you aren’t getting wet.

I still don’t like Pat Chun, not sold on UW, their coach or their QB so 22-19 it is.

See you there.
 
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I predict I’ll be pretty indifferent compared to every other Apple cup I’ve watched. UW isn’t in our conference and isn’t even a threat on the national scene anymore with the deal they took.

Yeah I want the Cougs to win and yeah I still hate UW but if we lose it’s gonna feel like we lost to Rutgers or something, and if we win, we beat a middling P5 non conference team. Good for us, but not the same feeling.

That said, this is a pick’em game in the 27-24 variety IMO. I’ll say UW just for the reverse jinx.
 
I just bought tickets and I’m going.

I like Jake Dickert. I think he’s a good coach and good for WSU. There is an AC thread on X where somebody linked a segment of Coach with Puck on his podcast. Dickert asked for our support reasonably, he was right and so I got the tix and I’m assembling a crew.

Nostalgia wins and so will the Cougs 22-19.

Cougs have a lot of team speed and enthusiasm on defense. We may lack depth necessary to survive an entire season on top but the starters are clicking right now and they’re having fun.

Offense: Mateer. Cougs have never had a running QB like this and I’m intrigued. Ricky Turner was more of a RB who took snaps but, he did win an Apple Cup 🍎

Rain: doesn’t look like much rain and besides, the air at Lumen swirls high above and unless you’re in the first six rows or on the field, you aren’t getting wet.

I still don’t like Pat Chun, not sold on UW, their coach or their QB so 22-19 it is.

See you there.
Unlike Biggs, (as I don't think Biggs likes CJD), in fact I think he loathes him! Notice how Biggs is quiet when we win?

That said, me on the other hand, I'm like you. I don't like Dickert, I love the guy. I personally think he's the best coach we've ever had, and I was a huge Leach freak.

Dickert with his leadership, his faith, his positive outlook, his ability to overcome major setbacks, his knowing how to manage players and a team, his heart, his blood, his defense coordinator experience, his intelligence of how to be successful, his ability to get his players to show up and be ready for big games, his family in Pullman and his kids in Pullman schools, his listening skills, his ability to not be cocky and high-minded, his recruiting, his salesmanship....all this adds up to be the best coach Washington State has ever had, in my opinion. (No Mike Price comments, please).

Oh, did I say Dickert is a salesman? This equates to recruiting, big time, where recruiting is everything.

If he wins big today, we're off to the races.
 
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H.R.G.* score

Cougs 31
Dawgs 24

Can't turn the ball over if we expect to win...

Go Cougs!

*H.R.G....Historic Rivalry Game...Not Apple Cup...Would be in Pullman...
 
uw has a physical front seven so I don’t see the Cougs scoring more then 21. If uw turns it over 2+ and Cougs hang onto the ball we win.
Cougs 21
pups 20
 
uw has a physical front seven so I don’t see the Cougs scoring more then 21. If uw turns it over 2+ and Cougs hang onto the ball we win.
Cougs 21
pups 20
We just ran for 300. Physical my ass. Their coach left for Bama because they ain’t Bama.

If we come to play we will stick it up their ass. They are the finesse team this year.
 
Crimson and Grey -24
Purple and Puke-20

I always want to see the Cougs beat the Fuskies, but wiping that smug grin off Pat Chuns face is yet another added motivation.
 
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