As I try to come to grips with this nightmare, I feel similarly. Like the Montana game I went to years and years ago. Town was hopping, game day was great. Cute stadium. Back in the day, hitting downtown Pullman on Friday night, that was fun. I used to have a Cat in the Hat hat - Crimson and gray of course. Would wear it at the bar - WTF was that dive called, the old Rusty's? Actually had it on their shelf until some F-er stole it.
We'll have to see how it goes. N of 1 here, but my dad has had a suite with a bunch of people ever since they became available. He and his wife are even UW alumni ... long story there (Coug friends, business reasons, he's really into being part of the eastern side of the state, etc.). But they have been really into it with the suite, traveling to road games, donating, going to events and bidding on stuff at auction, and all that, not to mention making the 4-hour or so trek over to Pullman for just about every home game for more than a decade. He told me yesterday he's done. NIL and the conference shit finally were the straws that broke the camel's back for him and his group. It's one anecdote but it certainly doesn't suggest anything like a soft landing upcoming.
Don't me wrong - there is going to be a rough transition period before everything settles. But ultimately I think if we can find our footing and start winning games, the fans will come back. In theory it should be cheaper too, no one is paying Pac 12 prices for MWC games.
we can't compete with NIL and never will, so lets just bag it and rebuild with teams similar to ours
Curious - has Chun reached out to him? Our AD only seems to value the bigger whales, so I'm curious if they've done any damage control with them.
I don't think so, but WSU doesn't know yet ... they're going to find out when it's time to renew and these guys don't go for it. I hope most people keep their suites, of course, but I think there are going to have to be some retention offers made if they want to get people to renew, and incentives given to new buyers if they want in. There are a lot of ways revenues are going to be lower.
They should be getting ahead of this right now. Hell, they should have been making calls a month ago. Just more evidence that WSU has no clue on how to value their donors.
No argument here. I was never a big donor, but I was in the Cougar Club for quite a few years, have 2 tiles at the Alumni Center, and had 6 season tickets for 20 years. Gave a sheckle or two to my College. And they still owe me my the brick for the $100 I ponied up for the IPF. 20 years ago?
Word I’ve heard - which is slightly dated - is that they plan to keep ticket prices at the same per game cost. Seatback requirement won’t go up this season, but no discount on tickets.
They are not really the same scenarios. A student on scholarship for playing an instrument, should they stay and graduate, will have a Bachelor of Arts degree in music. A football player does not obtain a Bachelor of Arts degree in football.
I have followed and enjoyed watching Cougar athletics for a long time. But I have long thought that all university sports should be club sports. I don't get the enjoyment I once did when the money really started taking over all major college sports instead of just influencing it. I would rather all universities more about higher education than how good the football team is year after year. I also believe that the NFL and NBA should pay for the training programs for potential players like baseball has the minor leagues.
I can tell you - and I’d bet that Loyal will back me up - WSU leadership may face a version of reality of their own creation. They won’t face actual reality unless they’re all dismissed.
Pretty darn sure it was $1000, not $100 to get a brick. In my case it was $200/year for 5 years. Just the cost of the engraved brick would eat up too much of the donation if it was only a $100 threshold.
No argument here. Problem is, they won't be dismissed. It's the Peter Principle at work. Take WSU. I know some of those administrators personally. Nice people, but they personify the Principle. "In a hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence." (And stay there) It's absolutely true. Public Higher Ed is the worst. No profit motive, steady flow of cash. President Rawlings said it best. "Money is like a river. It's just flow, and keeps coming". How the F I survived all those years in that environment, surrounded by ass kissing mooches I do not know.
Higher Ed is a strange environment. If you're faculty, you're rewarded for having encyclopedic knowledge of some minute detail, and zero awareness or sense of anything else. If you're administration, you're rewarded for not doing anything, because that means you didn't screw up. If you're staff, in general you're not rewarded at all if you're good at your job. If you're bad at your job, you may be rewarded by being promoted to administration...that way you can't screw up any actual work.No argument here. Problem is, they won't be dismissed. It's the Peter Principle at work. Take WSU. I know some of those administrators personally. Nice people, but they personify the Principle. "In a hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence." (And stay there) It's absolutely true. Public Higher Ed is the worst. No profit motive, steady flow of cash. President Rawlings said it best. "Money is like a river. It's just flow, and keeps coming". How the F I survived all those years in that environment, surrounded by ass kissing mooches I do not know.
So, no, no one will be dismissed. Chun and Schulz will continue to get their mega paychecks. All those VP's will get theirs too. Who will stop them? The Board of Regents? HAH! the only Regent that really tried to dig into the shit was an attorney out of Spokane. Didn't like him much, but he came in on a mission from God to root out some of this crap. Needless to say his term was not renewed.
Spanish philosopher José Ortega y Gasset (1883–1955) virtually enunciated the Peter principle in 1910, "All public employees should be demoted to their immediately lower level, as they have been promoted until turning incompetent."
Peter got his PhD at WSU, for you non-boomers out there. And he inspired Scott Adams (Dilbert). Best and most true comic strip of all time. Followed by The Far Side. Gary Larson is also a Coug BTW.
Just keep funding my Social Security, 96. And keep that head buried in your phone.
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I never wrote that it should not exist. I just said that all teams should be club sports. I know it is crazy thinking on my part that Education should be the focus of universities instead of how good an athletic team is. What we have seen for a few years now is the tail wagging the dog. Sorry if that offends you in some way.
Regarding promotion, I saw the same thing when I worked for Farmers Insurance. I saw it in several instances. One guy that nobody liked because he was full of shi! and didn't know what he was doing got promoted several times in a few years. He ended up at some high position at the parent company in Switzerland. Several of my friends and roommates ended up at Boeing and they have told me similar stories regarding promotion. It happens everywhere.
Oh, no-they are wrong. I am very positive that there was not a single person ever hired or promoted at Boeing due to who they were related to or what their sex was. Never happened, not a single time. I worked there, I know!
OK dipshit. Tell us all about your highly successful career after WSU. CEO somewhere? Gonna throw a million or 2 at the NIL pot? if you are really "96" from WSU, that makes you what, 49?
Yep. As faculty, you tend to know everything about nothing. But you get those multimillion dollar grants. For years and years.
Nope. Choppy, do you read and absorb my highly informative posts and links? WSU has plenty of Athletics and foundation fundraisers. All sucking on the tit. The only students were doing the "Call a Coug", which my son actually participated in.
None of which, apparently, have called our highly successful WSUCougs96 pal. Who is such a high roller that he has time to post here at 2:17 pm. Me? I'm retired. I'm here all week.
They haven’t called me In years either. Could be because I spent a couple years not answering any calls from a 335 number. Maybe they gave up….which is a bad trait for a fundraising group.
I approve of this post. And refresh my dementia-fueled brain. We followed the greatest generation (Mom and Dad). I'm a proud boomer, and then what? Gen X,Y,Z, millennials? All shitty worthless F's except of course my wonderful early 30's children. WTF generation are they?
