Have faith. He could be the next Mark Few for WSU Football. You never know.
A setback is a setup. It sets up for something better.
Dickert Officially HC
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A setback is a setup. It sets up for something better.
I agree but where it hurt Doba was recruiting . Everyone was looking at explosive plays , three players drives , not caring about the clock. Everyone was trying to get exciting on offense and Doba mistimed it and went the other way .
Short term it has served Dickert well. How many field goals did he kick against ASU on 4th down? I bet Rolo would have forgone the points and gone for it on fourth down. By kicking the field goals Dickegot points and made ASU one dimensional, not really giving them hope. Same thing eventually happened against UW.
As deLAURA gets older I would suspect he will grow some more and take those chances when appropriate . Not sure they are needed in some of these games, especially on the road.
And in terms of expectations it would not surprise me one bit for JDL to have a soph slump .
What is it you don’t like about Smith? His oline that is the best in the conference and he coaches at a bottom feeder program? Or do you not like his stable of running backs . He even made Chance Nolan more functional than half the qb’s in the conference .
95 .. Tedford when he has a quality qb he does really good things with the qb. But getting the qb has been his struggle in the Pac 10/12. In a 10 year span he had Rodgers(jc kid) Longshore, Reilly and Zac Maynard. Price had Bledsoe Leaf and Gesser. How is that possible .
This post summarizes the situation pretty well. We (and JdL was a big part of "we") improved rapidly with Morrison. If he wants to be a PAC OC at this stage of his life and if Smith's skills are more nuts & bolts/organizational, he can be ass't HC if Dickert and he have that kind of relationship. The value to Wazzu in having an offense that is not a copycat of everybody else, with exactly the same recruiting needs, is obvious. Dickert is smart enough to see that.
He could also leave the program in ruins. Being a DC and a HC are not the same jobs. For the millions of dollars involved, “you never know” isn’t enough.
I don't see Smith averaging 8-9+ wins a season at OSU when it's all said and done. He's a fine coach, but that's it.
If it looks like a head coach and sounds like a head coach it’s probably a head coach.
Some of the reasons I'm on board with Dickert are that:
- I don't think this was the time for a complete rebuild. The coaching "inflation" that we're seeing this year, the Rolo lawsuit, the fact that it would be the programs 4th coach in 4 years were too much for me to get behind.
- I think the returning talent on the team, led by JDL and the WR group, gives us an opportunity to field a competitive team again next season and affords Dickert and the new coaching staff time to establish themselves on the recruiting trail.
- While the jury is still out on Dickert, I don't see him leaving the program in ruins. I could see him not being able to get it done at this level, but he strikes me as a grounded, hard working person who won't do the players or the program wrong. We can recover from that type of "not getting it done" should it come to that.
I agree.
When I write about leaving the program in ruins, I do so because I am not sold that he knows what P5 talent looks like. And if he does, can he get in the room to make a pitch?
Smith was a lazy alum fan favorite hire. He's been terrible as an in game coach. I hope Oregon St keeps him around for a long time.
Not sure if there were better options. Hard to say that the guy didn't earn it. Please remember that the AD lost $31 million last year, and that the "for cause" termination of Rolovich may end up costing about $3 million.
Edit to add- 2022 is going to be rough no matter who's coaching. A lot of good and experienced players are leaving. The key is how does he fill out the staff, especially recruiters? He has connections to Wyoming and NDSU. He needs guys to recruit CA, and in my opinion HI and American Samoa.
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I still have no idea what he was doing going for two the first time yesterday. That snowballed into taking what was being a touchdown behind and turning it into a two score game. Real head scratcher in my mind. If any of our coaches had done that I’d have lost my shit.
Yes. He does dumb stuff like that all the time. Even if he converts they are down 13 instead of 14. By failing he's down 15. Remember going for it on 4th down against us in 2019? Gave us a short field to score the game winning touchdown. The fake punt they tried this year flipped the momentum and gave Jayden the short field he needed to start scoring. Then they burned a bunch of clock late and ran out of time so they needed to pass on their last drive.
I have no idea how the press can, with a straight face, call him a good coach. He just went 7-5 in year 4, and this is probably near his ceiling.
What is OSU’s ceiling? What can they consistently expect to win? Im not arguing he is or isn’t a good coach. What is the capacity of wins OSU can reasonably expect? My guess is it’s prob around 7.
Smith lost the 2019 game for them. Of course, the onside kick worked brilliantly, so maybe you take the good with the bad.
I genuinely don't get where you are coming from on some of this. Why are you (reasonably) focused on OS having a ceiling of something like 7 wins, yet contend WSU is a "power program?" OS had a 3-year stretch of 28 wins ending as recently as 2008, and in that Fiesta Bowl year in 2000, finished #4. I agree OS isn't the kind of place anyone would be expected to win at a high level at, but how can you contend with any objectivity at all that WSU should have sky-high expectations as a "power program" but OS has a 7-win ceiling?
Despite all the pearl clutching over Apple Cup results, the one item all 7 coaches forced out by WSU at the end of the season have in common is in the final year that coach lost to Oregon State. (This dates back to WW2)
Sarboe (alum hired from Lincoln HS)
Kircher
Sutherland
Clark (won his final Apple Cup)
Sweeney
Doba (won his final Apple Cup)
Wulff
Perhaps coincidental.
Perhaps boosters and Admin see "that type of loss" as additional evidence of the program going in wrong direction. (See 2011 loss in Seattle and 2007 loss in Pullman)
If Rolo had lost to OSU in 2020 and/or 2021 (thanks Coach Smith), the Vax firing would have been "convenient" instead of controversial.
Well said Sellas. Now if I can just get a calzone.
Also...we have momentum with this offense. Yes, we lose a lot of players but we should be able to get some skilled players to want to play in the this exciting offense.
Let's keep the Run and Shoot
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