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Too many Duck mistakes. Need to clean it up or they won't win. OSU's D matches up reasonably well with the Duck's O, and OSU's O is a deep strike throwing team with a quality RB, which is exactly what Oregon doesn't like.
 
That first scripted drive was brilliant. Everything after that, bleh. Now tOSU is getting great field position.

Young receivers, one of them WIDE OPEN in space, dropping key 3rd down passes completely turned the game around. Completely killed UO momentum, and then Duck defenders start missing tackles really badly and failing to wrap up.

Officiating not bad so far, but Ducks certainly not getting the benefit of the doubt here. I'm not sure that 4th down tOSU conversion spot was so good... looked like he was about a half yard short and they gave him a full yard.

tOSU receivers have not dropped AAAANYTHING. Jones just keeps throwing ridiculous, inadvisable jump balls and their receivers keep catching them.
 
21 unanswered points. Despite 2 turnovers!

Watching this fat QB throw ridiculous jump balls and have a lot of success doing it is like watching your opponent sink 3 after 3 after 3 in a college basketball game. You could call it skill except it typically doesn't translate into future games... it's a combination of luck and just being temporary locked in. Kid should have thrown a minimum of 3 picks.

Anyway, the tale of this tape is Oregon had a great scripted drive and tOSU didn't know what to do. But once the scripted drives are out of the way, tOSU starts to take control and Oregon is helpless. Kind of like a comedian who can write but isn't instinctively funny enough to do improv in a "game speed" setting.

This post was edited on 1/12 7:01 PM by chipdouglas
 
Originally posted by chipdouglas:
That first scripted drive was brilliant. Everything after that, bleh. Now tOSU is getting great field position.

Young receivers, one of them WIDE OPEN in space, dropping key 3rd down passes completely turned the game around. Completely killed UO momentum, and then Duck defenders start missing tackles really badly and failing to wrap up.

Officiating not bad so far, but Ducks certainly not getting the benefit of the doubt here. I'm not sure that 4th down tOSU conversion spot was so good... looked like he was about a half yard short and they gave him a full yard.

tOSU receivers have not dropped AAAANYTHING. Jones just keeps throwing ridiculous, inadvisable jump balls and their receivers keep catching them.
I think it has been the Ducks being their own worst enemy more that it has been OSU. Perhaps the extra practice that OSU had is helping them and the long break has the Ducks a little rusty with their tempo based offense.
 
Almost another Duck mistake, as the receiver, Marshall, almost dropped the ball before he got to the end zone. How could players be so stupid? 21-17 OSU
 
Both Urban Meyer and Mark Helfrich go for it on fourth downs near midfield. It is not only Mike Leach that is aggressive.
 
I will never fault Leach for doing that. I love the aggression. Someday we'll have a defense that can stop the other team even if we don't convert. Someday soon!
 
Ezekiel Elliott is an absolute stud. Best running back I've seen in CFB this year. Dude is a clone of demarco Murray and is going to be a star in the NFL.
 
Ducks collapsing...

Marriota dinged up.
Stick a fork in em...
 
Elliott isn't just the best college RB this year. You could make an argument for this decade. He has one more year and he'll go to the draft.
 
This was just an old-fashioned butt kicking. Had Ohio State not fumbled the ball a couple times, it would have scored into the 50s.
 
Yeah, it wasn't just the Ducks making mistakes....4 turnovers by the Bucks with 2 of them really unforced. Ohio State clearly the better team tonight....and that young "fat" QB who "was lucky" played pretty well in the biggest game of all. (Pokin' some fun at you Chip).

Elliot was the best RB I've seen this year....sorry for Mariota, great and classy kid.

Glad Cougar
 
Re: the lines

tOSU won the battle up front on both lines.....dominating perfrormances. Especially orygons dline was toast by the 4th quarter.
 
IMO, Oregon missed the guys that were out for various reasons. But on the other hand Ohio State was playing its third string QB.
 
We are not Oregon or Ohio st...and those are 2 of the better rushing teams in the country.

We pass the ball on 4th and 1
 
Originally posted by spongebob11:
We are not Oregon or Ohio st...and those are 2 of the better rushing teams in the country.

We pass the ball on 4th and 1
And...
 
How many times did WSU go for it because they couldn't kick a field goal? How many times did WSU go for it because it was the end of the half or the end of the game? Last season they went for it on 4th down 25 times, this year was 40. last year WSU had a good kicker, this year they didn't. So, we are just going to disagree on this. Teams go for it on 4th down. It isn't just a Leach thing.
 
Re: the lines


Originally posted by earldacoug:
tOSU won the battle up front on both lines.....dominating perfrormances. Especially orygons dline was toast by the 4th quarter.
Amen.


Trenches, bro. One of the main reasons WSU hasn't been good in so long. Lack of legit bodies in the trenches - they really are what make the game tick.
 
Originally posted by Glad Cougar:
Yeah, it wasn't just the Ducks making mistakes....4 turnovers by the Bucks with 2 of them really unforced. Ohio State clearly the better team tonight....and that young "fat" QB who "was lucky" played pretty well in the biggest game of all. (Pokin' some fun at you Chip).

Elliot was the best RB I've seen this year....sorry for Mariota, great and classy kid.

Glad Cougar
I watched the Sugar Bowl and now the national championship game. I have never, never seen two straight college games with better receiver play. Yes, the fat QB was throwing jump balls for 2 weeks, which seemed to stun opposing DBs, and which were consistently pulled in by locked-in receivers. The receiver play was so good, in fact, that I think it's clearly an anomaly--just like, as I said, a college BB team that is so locked in they hit 10 threes in a row. If you disagree, go watch the rest of tOSU's season where this didn't happen.

Elliott is no doubt a great RB, but the slobbering is a bit much--tOSU's offensive line is an All-America team in run and pass pro. Really, look at where those kids came from and were rated in HS. Oregon had some success and a good game plan in the 1st (which got blown up by Fatty Boombalatty's jump balls), but after that their rushers could not sniff the QB for 10 seconds after the snap, and in run blocking the holes they were opening up were ridiculous.

I do wonder--Oregon can pretty much do whatever the hell it wants with the juice that it has. Why don't they ditch their stupid tempo-spread gimmick that fails every time in a championship setting, and start recruiting every animal west of the Mississippi to create [2012] Alabama West? When will they learn it's much easier to knock their opponents' d--- in the dirt on every play than try to Copperfield their way to wins in January?

Some credit is due (not as much as is being given here), but I simply cannot stand Aaron Hernandez's mentor or tOSU. Other being in Columbus a couple years back and seeing Urban and his Rosie O'Donnell haircut classlessly humiliate a bodybag team (Buffalo) with trick plays, hits out of bounds, conversions etc., and being affiliated with Aaron, I am really bothered by the fact that this "little ol' tOSU team that nobody believed in" narrative has gotten so much traction. I think I saw a statistic that tOSU has the 2nd highest number of 4 and 5 stars outside of Alabama? Also, no one had an uglier loss this season, and the fact of winning it all by jumping a better team (TCU) with a better record because the committee wants to "send a message" drives me batty.
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This post was edited on 1/13 5:16 AM by chipdouglas
 
Originally posted by chipdouglas:

Originally posted by Glad Cougar:
Yeah, it wasn't just the Ducks making mistakes....4 turnovers by the Bucks with 2 of them really unforced. Ohio State clearly the better team tonight....and that young "fat" QB who "was lucky" played pretty well in the biggest game of all. (Pokin' some fun at you Chip).

Elliot was the best RB I've seen this year....sorry for Mariota, great and classy kid.

Glad Cougar
I watched the Sugar Bowl and now the national championship game. I have never, never seen two straight college games with better receiver play. Yes, the fat QB was throwing jump balls for 2 weeks, which seemed to stun opposing DBs, and which were consistently pulled in by locked-in receivers. The receiver play was so good, in fact, that I think it's clearly an anomaly--just like, as I said, a college BB team that is so locked in they hit 10 threes in a row. If you disagree, go watch the rest of tOSU's season where this didn't happen.

Elliott is no doubt a great RB, but the slobbering is a bit much--tOSU's offensive line is an All-America team in run and pass pro. Really, look at where those kids came from and were rated in HS. Oregon had some success and a good game plan in the 1st (which got blown up by Fatty Boombalatty's jump balls), but after that their rushers could not sniff the QB for 10 seconds after the snap, and in run blocking the holes they were opening up were ridiculous.

I do wonder--Oregon can pretty much do whatever the hell it wants with the juice that it has. Why don't they ditch their stupid tempo-spread gimmick that fails every time in a championship setting, and start recruiting every animal west of the Mississippi to create [2012] Alabama West? When will they learn it's much easier to knock their opponents' d--- in the dirt on every play than try to Copperfield their way to wins in January?

Some credit is due (not as much as is being given here), but I simply cannot stand Aaron Hernandez's mentor or tOSU. Other being in Columbus a couple years back and seeing Urban and his Rosie O'Donnell haircut classlessly humiliate a bodybag team (Buffalo) with trick plays, hits out of bounds, conversions etc., and being affiliated with Aaron, I am really bothered by the fact that this "little ol' tOSU team that nobody believed in" narrative has gotten so much traction. I think I saw a statistic that tOSU has the 2nd highest number of 4 and 5 stars outside of Alabama? Also, no one had an uglier loss this season, and the fact of winning it all by jumping a better team (TCU) with a better record because the committee wants to "send a message" drives me batty.
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This post was edited on 1/13 5:16 AM by chipdouglas
they aren't going to dump the spread tempo gimmick because that is their brand, it's who they are, media darlings with 200 different uniforms. They just got the arses handed to them by a team that looked to me, was wearing the same uniform that they have always had. You are right though, running up to the line and snapping the b all before the other team is ready, as a strategy isn't going to beat teams like Ohio State, Alabama etc...
 
Originally posted by chipdouglas:

Originally posted by Glad Cougar:
Yeah, it wasn't just the Ducks making mistakes....4 turnovers by the Bucks with 2 of them really unforced. Ohio State clearly the better team tonight....and that young "fat" QB who "was lucky" played pretty well in the biggest game of all. (Pokin' some fun at you Chip).

Elliot was the best RB I've seen this year....sorry for Mariota, great and classy kid.

Glad Cougar
I watched the Sugar Bowl and now the national championship game. I have never, never seen two straight college games with better receiver play. Yes, the fat QB was throwing jump balls for 2 weeks, which seemed to stun opposing DBs, and which were consistently pulled in by locked-in receivers. The receiver play was so good, in fact, that I think it's clearly an anomaly--just like, as I said, a college BB team that is so locked in they hit 10 threes in a row. If you disagree, go watch the rest of tOSU's season where this didn't happen.

Elliott is no doubt a great RB, but the slobbering is a bit much--tOSU's offensive line is an All-America team in run and pass pro. Really, look at where those kids came from and were rated in HS. Oregon had some success and a good game plan in the 1st (which got blown up by Fatty Boombalatty's jump balls), but after that their rushers could not sniff the QB for 10 seconds after the snap, and in run blocking the holes they were opening up were ridiculous.

I do wonder--Oregon can pretty much do whatever the hell it wants with the juice that it has. Why don't they ditch their stupid tempo-spread gimmick that fails every time in a championship setting, and start recruiting every animal west of the Mississippi to create [2012] Alabama West? When will they learn it's much easier to knock their opponents' d--- in the dirt on every play than try to Copperfield their way to wins in January?

Some credit is due (not as much as is being given here), but I simply cannot stand Aaron Hernandez's mentor or tOSU. Other being in Columbus a couple years back and seeing Urban and his Rosie O'Donnell haircut classlessly humiliate a bodybag team (Buffalo) with trick plays, hits out of bounds, conversions etc., and being affiliated with Aaron, I am really bothered by the fact that this "little ol' tOSU team that nobody believed in" narrative has gotten so much traction. I think I saw a statistic that tOSU has the 2nd highest number of 4 and 5 stars outside of Alabama? Also, no one had an uglier loss this season, and the fact of winning it all by jumping a better team (TCU) with a better record because the committee wants to "send a message" drives me batty.
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This post was edited on 1/13 5:16 AM by chipdouglas
This so much.

Its amazing the recruits they were able to land while being on a post-season ban, isn't it? 3 deep in 5 star qbs... nothing to see here, move along.
 
I believe that Oregon was still missing several starting offensive lineman and have been most or all of the season.
 
Originally posted by Coug1990:
I believe that Oregon was still missing several starting offensive lineman and have been most or all of the season.
Pregame they showed a graphic of 8 missing "starters", of which I'd only heard of the All Conference DB who got torched in Pullman and the WR who failed a drug test. That being said, I'm not watching UO THAT closely to know those other kids anyway.
 
Originally posted by BleedCrimsonandGray:
Originally posted by Coug1990:
I believe that Oregon was still missing several starting offensive lineman and have been most or all of the season.
Pregame they showed a graphic of 8 missing "starters", of which I'd only heard of the All Conference DB who got torched in Pullman and the WR who failed a drug test. That being said, I'm not watching UO THAT closely to know those other kids anyway.
I knew it was a lot, but like you I don't watch them that closely to know details. OSU deserved to win the game and they will be favored to win again next season.
 
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