Efe Abogidi to portal
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8 points 5 rebounds is what he produced. Everything else is just would’ve, should’ve, could’ve and means absolutely nothing. He is very athletic which can’t be coached but he is just not that good overall. He can be taught to improve his game but as far as the NBA goes he is an extreme project.
If anybody is comparing Efe to Kemp and Dominque Wilkins that’s only the athletic part of the game not as a player in general. At the same age Kemp was putting up better numbers in the NBA and Nique was 20 points 8 boards agame in the SEC. No comparison at all.
Agree.
Kelvin Sampson could always use another rim protector.
Zona? Perhaps. They have always paid very well for basketball talent. I'm skeptical of him ending up there though.
I agree with this take, however my question/ worry remains. As a coach these days you have to constantly be in positive communication with your athletes. While I recognize there are hundreds of players entering the portal one cannot just ignore the reasons. For a player like Efe to be leaving there has to have been some disconnect. In the case of Noah, I can see where a mutual understanding may have been present, but this is something different. Any educated guesses on what might be going on??
My initial thought was minutes or style of play…Efe didn’t get the minutes I thought he might but I figured that was injury related. He certainly was not the focus of our guard dominated attack and I thought he should have been more involved.. what say you?
He didn’t receive many opportunities on offense either though… I almost feel as though coaches offensive attack calls for bigs who only rebound, rim run, and dive to the basket after screens… Skilled big men play little role. He didn’t allow Efe to shoot this year which I thought his ability to shoot 3’s last year were a big part of his contribution. Developing that is my guess as to why he is leaving.
I’m not so sure. I’m getting the idea that this was about the coaching and what he was allowed to do. Certainly he was hurt, but I’m not buying that he could not have played more minutes.. I think we just had guys they provided other abilities that the coach valued enough to spread minutes around. Getting kids to sacrifice minutes is one of the biggest difficulties when you have a lot of depth. This happens time and again.
IMO it’s a two fold situation.
First, our offense (which needs huge improvement if not complete overhaul )is dribble drive guard oriented with little use of the posts except for pick and roll and pick and pop late in the clock.
Second, other than Jackson our bigs struggle to score in the post. Efe has really no post up game. He is very effective at the pick and roll because of his athleticism which includes good hands, but back to that basket moves are very limited especially if he is facing a player with solid athleticism themselves. His 3pt shooting is adequate enough to keep defenders honest but not consistent enough to be a true weapon at this point and he isn’t able to attack defenders off the dribble.
So as I see it he doesn’t have the skills to demand the ball in post and we don’t run a offensive system that perpetuates him getting those skills. It’s really the same thing in the NBA spread the floor and go one 1 on 1, if you get stopped kick it to a shooter. That imo is why you hear so much about “can he create his own shot” now. Before and still in many programs the shots come in the flow of the offense and are created through that offense.
First, our offense (which needs huge improvement if not complete overhaul )is dribble drive guard oriented with little use of the posts except for pick and roll and pick and pop late in the clock.
Second, other than Jackson our bigs struggle to score in the post. Efe has really no post up game. He is very effective at the pick and roll because of his athleticism which includes good hands, but back to that basket moves are very limited especially if he is facing a player with solid athleticism themselves. His 3pt shooting is adequate enough to keep defenders honest but not consistent enough to be a true weapon at this point and he isn’t able to attack defenders off the dribble.
So as I see it he doesn’t have the skills to demand the ball in post and we don’t run a offensive system that perpetuates him getting those skills. It’s really the same thing in the NBA spread the floor and go one 1 on 1, if you get stopped kick it to a shooter. That imo is why you hear so much about “can he create his own shot” now. Before and still in many programs the shots come in the flow of the offense and are created through that offense.
Agreed, That is my fear though. Staffing reputation that we can’t develop players… One of the few advantages I thought we had previously was that we were a place where you could get immediate playing time and would be developed..
Where there is smoke there is always fire. I’m not sure if there is a worse sign for a program then coveted pieces of your program leaving to be developed elsewhere…I almost wish there were a story about not liking Pullman or something significant that we can pin this on…
The problem is the bugs would work and work and flowers and Roberts were thinking they were at a hoop camp working on their dribbling . WSU was one of the worst passing teams in the country . Why they didn’t break and get efe on the wing and Bamba in the wing is beyond me. That team cleaned up the glass and flowers would slowly bring the ball up and burn shot clock . I don’t blame the bigs for getting frustrated
I hear you about developing players.
After the 2020-2021 season I was excited about our staff and their development of Noah and others. Noah had taken the biggest jump I've seen in a while. I think it was a chip on his shoulder.
This past offseason the development didn't appear to happen as much. But from what I have read there were other circumstances that limited the staffs ability to develop...
Efe- playing with national team and them gets hurt.
Dishon- was hurt too. (once healthy at the end of the season I did see some development)
Noah- legal issues and my opinion is he had a big head as opposed to a chip on his shoulder.
Given Efe's potential (because of his athleticism, but not near there because of injuries and major skill development needs) I'm thinking he was getting a lot of offers with NIL $$$$ to transfer. Maybe the NIT exposure was a bad thing?
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