Sources: Big 12 votes to welcome back Colorado
The Big 12's presidents and chancellors voted unanimously on a conference call Wednesday night to accept Colorado as a new member, sources told ESPN.
ESPN Reporting: Colorado discussing move from Pac-12 to Big 12, sources say
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Sources: Big 12 votes to welcome back Colorado
The Big 12's presidents and chancellors voted unanimously on a conference call Wednesday night to accept Colorado as a new member, sources told ESPN.www.espn.com
Colorado has said that they prefer to and will stay with PAC over big 12, but have indicated in a read between the lines way, that if the PAC media deal is either too little or takes too long to get done, that they would then leave to go to the Big 12. The amount needs to be about 27 to 30 to 33 million per team media deal in order to stay.
Different sources have said that media sources have offered 21 to 24 million per team.
What the commissioner, and the Presidents don't get, understand, is that unless they get SDSU, SMU, the media deal will be between 21 million to 26 million per team.
If however the PAC adds SDSU, SMU, then does a joint PAC/ACC scheduling/Media deal alliance, AND THEN DO THE PAC MEDIA DEAL AFTER THAT, then if that done, the PAC media deal would be between about 33,34 million per team to 40 million per team to 50 million per team, which would keep Colorado, and the PAC together.
But the commissioner, Pres Schultz, Chun, the other presidents, and some of the posters here, don't get, understand that, and wrongly think that have to do the 21 to 26 million media deal first, wrongly thinking they will get a better deal then that WITHOUT SDSU, SMU, UNLV, and then after that, either adding SDSU, SMU or staying at 10.
And then Oregon, others don't want to add any more to make it easier to get to play offs, thus making it so that the PAC doesn't expand, doesn't stabilize, doesn't get a better deal, and ensures the PAC gets a SHITTY DEAL, and thus ensuring that Colorado, then others goto Big 12, and ensuring the destruction of the PAC down to PAC 2/4/6, and either WSU/Ore St having to either do a new PAC/Mt West hybrid P5/Group of 5 league with 1 NY6/CFP berth, spot, or join the Mt West.
So unless Schultz pulls a miraculous rabbit out of his hat by getting a miraculous 27 to 30 to 33 to 35 million per team deal that keeps Colorado, others, then the PAC is doomed.
All because of the stupidity of the commissioner, presidents, colleges like Oregon, fans, etc.
The illogical stupidity of it all.
Colorado gave the PAC 12 plenty of time to get it's act together.
If the commissioner, Schultz, Chun, other Presidents, Oregon, UW, fans, etc, hadn't had their heads up their asses, and had added SDSU, SMU, UNLV, instead of BLOWING IT with SDSU, and then if they had done the joint scheduling alliance with the ACC, and then if they then did a 37 million per team deal, which they would have gotten after expanding, doing the ACC alliance, then Colorado, everyone would have stayed, the PAC would have stabilized.
But now the PAC is doomed.
Hopefully Schultz, WSU is smart enough, able to join the Big 12, an or when the PAC becomes the PAC 2/3/4/5, keeps the PAC brand, and gets SDSU, SMU, Tulane, UNLV, BSU, CSU, Air force, Utah St, Rice, NDSU, Tulsa, Wyoming, New Mexico, New Mexico St, etc, to go with WSU, Ore St, to make the new PAC 12/14/16
Feels like we are getting close to the point of where we just get the best deal we can, short-term, and live with it.
We need time to get other teams added and make another run at this when our teams and media package is solid.
Kliatkoff (whatever his name is) is F-ing this up big time. If Colorado bolts, we need to pick up Colorado State.
If he hasn't already, Doc Schulz needs to get on the phone with the Colorado president ASAP.
Time for the Pac-12 board chairman to put his foot down
Time for the Pac-12 board chairman to put his foot down
It's too late for even that, because Colorado is leaving, going to the Big 12, which will cause Arizona, ASU, Utah, UW, Oregon to leave, goto Big 12, with Oregon, UW either going to the Big 10, or Big 12.
Stanford will go independent, and unless WSU can join Big 12, it will be the PAC 3, with WSU, Ore St, CAL.
And then either the PAC 3, adds SDSU, SMU, UNLV, BSU, Tulane, NDSU, Air force, Wyoming, CSU, Tulsa, New Mexico, NMST, OR WSU, Ore St join the Mt West, and Cal either goes independent, or either joins Mt West or Big 12.
At most the PAC 12 would have a SHIT media deal that would last for 3 months to 1,2,3 years before the PAC falls apart at the seams.
It's too late for a media deal now.
The Commissioner, Presidents, Schultz, Chun, Oregon, UW, some fans, etc, FCKED IT ALL UP, BLEW IT.
EFFIN MORONS.
Mik, we know Loyal thinks Chun has a lousy haircut, but that aside how is the Pac-12 TV deal/no deal the fault of any athletic director?
Picking up CSU to replace Colorado wouldn't help, as Arizona, ASU, Utah, will follow, and UW, Oregon, will either also follow to Big 12, or will goto Big 10.
THE PAC IS DEAD, DOOMED.
I'm not that worried about the conference blowing up. Pac-12 name has value just like the Big-12 name has value. G5 teams want to join. We can add good G5 teams, keep our bowl tie-ins (for now) and likely end up with a decent deal.
Probably need to get Tulane, sdsu, and smu on the line yesterday. Otherwise we are over in a couple days
Schultz, and the commissioner, and the other presidents are morons that had their heads up their ASSES,
Schultz can't do Shit. He can try all he wants but Colorado can leave if they want, and Colorado has decided to go to Big 12, and it's PRETTY MUCH A DONE DEAL.
So unless Schultz has a 28 million to 30 mil to 33 mil per team media deal in 1 hand, that he then shows Colorado, Colorado is GONE.
Almost every school in the remnants of the Pac-12 (except for OSU and WSU) have been rumored to be on the move.
Pres Schultz needs to get a hold of the Big 12 commissioner, Big 12 presidents, a second from now, and beg, plead, etc, for them the Big 12, to let WSU join the Big 12
I don't see it happening, Schulz just took over the Pac-12 exec committee, but i agree, financially, the $31M is something we need in our pockets.
That may or may not be true, but even if true, I don't trust the commish, presidents, Schultz to NOT FCK THAT UP TOO, just like they have FCKED everything else up.
No, they will ditch the PAC brand, and join the Mt West if they are not able to also join Big 12.
Yeah it probably won't happen, because Schultz is too Stupid to ask the Big 12 if WSU can join Big 12, or he is not smart enough to do it now, and will stupidly wait too long and will go down with the Titanic PAC ship, instead of trying to immediately get on the lifeboat to goto Big 12
T-Town
What are you hearing/what is your sense of the nine remaining schools as far as staying in the Pac-12 or following Colorado to the Big 12 or USC and UCLA to the Big Ten?
A Pac-12/Big-12 merger could be pretty exciting
I suspect the conference is finished. Schools don't want to get locked into a long term deal and are looking for the lifeboats.
The Story is that it's a DONE DEAL, as almost ALL the MAJOR, EXPERT, MAINSTREAM SPORTING NEWS SOURCES ARE REPORTING THIS.
There is only about a .00001% chance that all these sources are WRONG.
And the only way this wouldn't happen, is if 1. The Colorado board of regents, etc, shoot it down, but almost all the sources have said that's not likely to happen.
And 2. If the Big 12 commish, Big 12 Presidents say no to Colorado. But that's not likely as A. Almost all the sources have said so. B. And since the Big 12 commish, and Big 12 presidents have said that they are after Colorado.
As to the reason why Colorado is leaving, Colorado has been saying, hinting, etc, for a year now, that in order for Colorado to stay, PAC needs to stabilize, get about a 28 to 31 to 34 million per team media deal, expand, get SDSU, etc.
Those Colorado conditions were NOT met by the PAC, so because of that, that's why Colorado is leaving.
One other school likely going too that is not AZ ASU or UU. That basically points to Oregon as UW is better fit for B1G. Don’t think Stan or Cal goes b12. OSU WSU fked is most likely scenario.
In the end I bet it’s UW, Stan, ND, Cal to B10. Oregon Cu and possibly AZ ASU big12. Wazzu OSU downgrade. UU to Big12 if they find a partner
In the end I bet it’s UW, Stan, ND, Cal to B10. Oregon Cu and possibly AZ ASU big12. Wazzu OSU downgrade. UU to Big12 if they find a partner
Too bad Schultz, WSU is too stupid to follow Ore St's example in either moving, trying to goto Big 12.
Now it looks like it will not be the PAC 2,3 with WSU, Ore St, Cal, but now it looks like it will be the PAC 1, WSU.
Schulz may be looking at the Big 12, too, but he has to stay quiet since he's president of the Pac-12 executive committee
Only chance now for WSU not to be FCKED, is for WSU to go 11-1, NY6 in football, and for WSU basketball to goto NCAA tourny Sweet 16, and to get a College GameDay appearance in Pullman, and to continue to fly the flag at GameDay, and for Schultz to leverage that to convince, persuade the Big 12 to let WSU join the Big 12 for a 1/2, 3/5, 2/3, 3/4, reduced share.
But since those things won't happen the PAC and WSU are FCKED.
Doubt it. Schultz has been just as incompetent as the commish, other presidents.
Holy Schlit. If Oregon St played their way into a life boat and while our dork of a president fiddled, that's too much for me to take.
It’s not a done deal…yet. They are required to put this to a vote in a public meeting. Not coincidentally, there’s a public meeting scheduled Thursday.
If CU leaves, that blows any media deal that was in the works. It drops one of the few major markets we have, so the networks will definitely use it to knock down the dollar amounts. Which then could easily spiral into more defections.
Not sure why the Big 12 would pick oregon state. No media market, not a great national following. I suppose they could just be chasing baseball.
I read earlier today that the CW network had offered a deal to the PAC-12, including games on Tuesday and Wednesday. Not sure how legitimate that report was.
If CU leaves, that blows any media deal that was in the works. It drops one of the few major markets we have, so the networks will definitely use it to knock down the dollar amounts. Which then could easily spiral into more defections.
Not sure why the Big 12 would pick oregon state. No media market, not a great national following. I suppose they could just be chasing baseball.
I read earlier today that the CW network had offered a deal to the PAC-12, including games on Tuesday and Wednesday. Not sure how legitimate that report was.
The writing is on wall for WSU, and has been for some time now. Our existence as a P5 program is coming to an end.
of course, they think they'd be getting a doormat.
Besides being completely unfounded and more than likely complete bullshit... actually, no that's it.
Let's stay positive CP
Maybe Klaitkoff adds San Diego State, SMU, UNLV and gets a really nice media deal done.
Also, Dr. Shulz is very well-connected in Big 12 circles and hopefully, if necessary, can pull some strings in WSU's favor with that conference
Nah, once this goes through WSU is cooked, as a university and D1 athletic member.
Schulz will be left holding the bag with nothing.
Larry Scott’s decade long failure to get a pac 12 TV deal doomed the pac 12. So bad it was almost sabotage.
