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First impacts of tariffs

If you believe Tariffs on Mexico and Canada are going to have any sjgnifixwnt impact on drugs in this country you are even more naive than you appear. And that is saying something.
Much better to just keep doing the same things that aren't working, right?

You've failed Occam's razor and Einstein's definition of insanity in the same morning.
 
Much better to just keep doing the same things that aren't working, right?

You've failed Occam's razor and Einstein's definition of insanity in the same morning.
Yeah. Much better to throw handfuls of shit at the wall and hope that it sticks.

You sound like an adherent of “The Secret”.
 
Shame on you, Crazy! What is wrong with you, waiting to evaluate the consequences of the tariffs until things shake out and we get to evaluate all of the pluses and minuses of them. Since it is all about Trump, it is important to immediately have a premature ejaculation in your pants and then start yelling that Orange Man Is BAD!

A few things for all of us to think about:
1. The US has used tariffs before.
2. Nothing says that the tariffs will be in place forever
3. Agree with his effectiveness or disagree, the fact is that Trump is a negotiator. These tariffs are simply the opening salvo.
4. A stated reason for the tariffs is to force Canada and Mexico to clamp down on the border, especially WRT the flow of drugs, in particular fentanyl. That seems like an admirable goal to me.
5. I have seen Kevin O'Leary, aka Mr. Wonderful, say that he supports tariffs, especially with China. He said that Trump should do 50% or 100% tariffs with China to force them to be a better partner. I am quite sure that Mr Wonderful knows a Helluva lot more about business, international trade, etc than anyone here. Maybe more than all of us put together. He is a very smart guy and has made piles of money.
6. Larry Kudlow made an interesting point the other on the tariffs. He basically said the key is to not look at the tariffs in a vacuum, but to see what happens when all of Trump's economic agenda is implemented. This would include working to lower energy costs, reducing regulations, lowering taxes, etc.

I think it would be interesting to have a look at Flat's contractor's bid. He states that they jacked it way up in anticipation of material increases, but what happens if the tariffs are negotiated away in the next month or two? That could happen, maybe even before the job in contracted to start. Does the contractor then get to enjoy a windfall profit? Hmmmm.

Anyway, I know all you TDS infected folks here will wail and knash your teeth about the sky is falling and I am just licking an orange taint, but if you will just take a few deep breaths and maybe have a couple shots of Jose Cuervo to mellow out you get away from the tendency to look at tariffs with tunnel vision and TDS and just wait to actually understand the long term impacts.

And I will admit that I don't know what the long term effects will be, and how long it will take before we can make an educated evaluation. And the reality is that none of the rest of you guys here know right now what the effects will be either, but have fun pretending that you do. Premature ejaculation feels so good, right?
Cost shifting or surcharge provisions when dealing with inflation or price volatilities are nothing new or unusual. Presumably, the contractor is simply shifting an increased cost to the customer(s), but only if the contractor actually pays the increased cost. A cost plus contract would have more or less covered it anyway.
 
Know what? That Stretch is naive? Ha ha ha. Ha… You funny.
Grab some tissues and clean up the mess in your tidy whities, bub.

If you had looked at my post with any semblance of comprehension, you would have noticed that I specifically stated I didn't know how hoe the move would turn out. You, on the other hand immediately are jumping to confusions without having a clue. I will take note of the fact that you believe you are much smarter than Mr Wonderful.
 
Cost shifting or surcharge provisions when dealing with inflation or price volatilities are nothing new or unusual. Presumably, the contractor is simply shifting an increased cost to the customer(s), but only if the contractor actually pays the increased cost. A cost plus contract would have more or less covered it anyway.
Right, I know a little about contracts like that, not an expert by any means. But Flatland presented it as a done deal that the costs will shoot up when that may or may not be the case. Besides that, the tariff is 25%, yet he says the costs will increase by 33% in the contract. What kind of maths is that?
 
Oooh 😯

Did you see that?

Lindsey Graham is now full support on Tulsi, RFK and Kash. He expects all 3 to be confirmed this week.

- Bigfoot
Lindsey Graham is everything wrong with the Swamp. The swampiest of the swamp creatures.

Mase needs to take him out in the next Senate election in S. Carolina.
 
Lindsey Graham is everything wrong with the Swamp. The swampiest of the swamp creatures.

Mase needs to take him out in the next Senate election in S. Carolina.
Between his age and the booze I doubt he’s got another term in him.
 
… and more winning.

NATO Secretary General agrees with Trump on Greenland. Denmark suddenly sees the light and is now negotiating.

 
Since it is all about Trump, it is important to immediately have a premature ejaculation in your pants and then start yelling that Orange Man Is BAD!

And the reality is that none of the rest of you guys here know right now what the effects will be either, but have fun pretending that you do. Premature ejaculation feels so good, right?
Hey buddy, are you crying out for help here? I don't have this problem, but I'm told that there are treatments available. :)

That said, I do agree that "we" need to see how it plays out (like "we" have a choice) - although my $5 predicts a major run on TP, particularly at Costco, starting Tuesday.

I will say that, IMHO, attacking our bordering neighbors out of the gate, as we are doing, would not be my 1st priority as President. As to Mexico in general? Seems like incentivizing and cooperating rather than attacking would be more productive.
 
Hey buddy, are you crying out for help here? I don't have this problem, but I'm told that there are treatments available. :)

That said, I do agree that "we" need to see how it plays out (like "we" have a choice) - although my $5 predicts a major run on TP, particularly at Costco, starting Tuesday.

I will say that, IMHO, attacking our bordering neighbors out of the gate, as we are doing, would not be my 1st priority as President. As to Mexico in general? Seems like incentivizing and cooperating rather than attacking would be more productive.
No help needed for that, thank you very much. It's actually just the opposite.

Sometimes tough love is the best option for changing behavior. Remember that it helps to get some NATO countries kicking in more like they should for the greater good. Sadly, there was zero tough love coming out of DC towards any foreign countries in the past 4 years. And you saw the disastrous results from that, particularly on the southern border.
 
Looks like MSNBC picked up a viewer.

I'm willing to live with martial law if it prevents you from drip drying in the gym locker room.
Boy what a reasoned and intelligent reply to a long post that was simply musing about the issues. You must be proud of yourself.

And frankly bud, I find your gym locker room schtick to be more than a little creepy. You invented that narrative out of thin air, and you just keep plying it. That is creepy. Tell you what - I will reply to every post of yours to anyone with jokes and insults about your (now apparent) latent homosexuality, erectile dysfunction and small penis. Of which the latter two have already been documented as fact. And if you piss me off (not there yet), I've got other items lined up for you.

Oh, and I was counting your insults so far today (I'm bored, no FB). Over a dozen so far directed at me, 8 or 10 directed at Krusty, and a few sprayed around at others. You must be working up a sweat. Go have a glass of Zinfandel or whatever it is you drink.
 
No help needed for that, thank you very much. It's actually just the opposite.

Sometimes tough love is the best option for changing behavior. Remember that it helps to get some NATO countries kicking in more like they should for the greater good. Sadly, there was zero tough love coming out of DC towards any foreign countries in the past 4 years. And you saw the disastrous results from that, particularly on the southern border.
Don't disagree in general, but what "behavior" does say, Canada need to change? Quit exporting energy to the US? Quit exporting Molson? Mexico, way more complicated of course. There again, how about talking first rather than trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico as your first order of business?

And as far as your top comment goes, I'm told that the goat and sheep community of Greater Athol is worn out. :) :)
 
Don't disagree in general, but what "behavior" does say, Canada need to change? Quit exporting energy to the US? Quit exporting Molson? Mexico, way more complicated of course. There again, how about talking first rather than trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico as your first order of business?

And as far as your top comment goes, I'm told that the goat and sheep community of Greater Athol is worn out. :) :)
I don't go near Athol. Is it kinda like Enumclaw?

I do know the stated goal of the tariffs is to have them both tighten down the borders, stop the flow of migrants and drugs. Other than that, I don't know a lot of specifics. Doesn't Canada prohibit US citizens from owning property up north? Maybe drop that, if it is true. Do they have tariffs, surcharges, or taxes on any of their exports to us? If so, get rid of them and have free trade both ways.

Link below has a release from the White House. Interesting thoughts/claims/lies/whatever from other folks about tariffs, including Yellen. I cannot pretend to know if the comments are true or not without doing research, and don't want to get into all that now.

 
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