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Graduate Transfer Question

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Does anyone know if a Grad Transfer actually has to be admitted to WSU Graduate School or just admitted to the University?

Wonder if they could just work on another degree?
 
Does anyone know if a Grad Transfer actually has to be admitted to WSU Graduate School or just admitted to the University?

Wonder if they could just work on another degree?

I believe it's just the university. My understanding was a grad transfer has to achieve their secondary degree in something that isn't offered at their university?

Basically, they take classes to achieve a secondary major...don't quote me but that's always been how I've understood.
 
I thought Grad Transfers had to finish their undergraduate degree and to immediately transfer to another school they had to be admitted to a graduate program that was not offered at the previous school. Could be wrong though or maybe it changed. I remember hearing it's difficult for WSU to get grad transfers because athletes are required to go through the same process as any other student including meeting program requirements and application deadlines.
 
I thought Grad Transfers had to finish their undergraduate degree and to immediately transfer to another school they had to be admitted to a graduate program that was not offered at the previous school. Could be wrong though or maybe it changed. I remember hearing it's difficult for WSU to get grad transfers because athletes are required to go through the same process as any other student including meeting program requirements and application deadlines.

Yer starting to sound like Chris Petersen. :p

I think all of you are technically correct but I have to wonder about the "not offered" program requirement, particularly where the transfer comes from a big school. Like Hurts from Alabama to Oklahoma. What graduate course of study does Oklahoma have that Alabama doesn't AND that Hurts had the prerequisite undergrad work to qualify for? Same question and then some for a player who comes from a big school and transfers to an overgrown HS like....say......Gonzaga.
 
Yer starting to sound like Chris Petersen. :p

I think all of you are technically correct but I have to wonder about the "not offered" program requirement, particularly where the transfer comes from a big school. Like Hurts from Alabama to Oklahoma. What graduate course of study does Oklahoma have that Alabama doesn't AND that Hurts had the prerequisite undergrad work to qualify for? Same question and then some for a player who comes from a big school and transfers to an overgrown HS like....say......Gonzaga.
Well, Pete made his "whoa is me" statements about Minshew as if they were fact when he was ignorant. I fully acknowledge my shortcomings and ignorance...just ask my wife. ;)

The "not offered" part might be out-of-date but I remember that was part of the initial rule. I believe James is our 3rd Grad Transfer for all sports. Gonzaga admitted Geno Grandall in October to a short session. It's the hypocrisy of the "holier than thou" (Few for sure and Peterson as well) that gets pretty annoying.
 
We will see if the administration holds true to a student athlete having to take the GRE ,be admit to a graduate program and qualify for graduate status . If they do not hold true then they are a couple of hypocrites.The Board of Regents should take a stand that any potential graduate student must meet all standards and qualifications. The way the current coach is making offers to potential graduate transfers it seems like he thinks that he can disregard policy and standards to save his behind. I will seek an answer to your question and hold their feet to the fire.
 
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We will see if the administration holds true to a student athlete having to take the GRE ,be admit to a graduate program and qualify for graduate status . If they do not hold true then they are a couple of hypocrites.The Board of Regents should take a stand that any potential graduate student must meet all standards and qualifications. The way the current coach is making offers to potential graduate transfers it seems like he thinks that he can disregard policy and standards to save his behind. I will seek an answer to your question and hold their feet to the fire.

I can't tell you how much better I feel knowing you're on the case. What is it Debra calls Ray whenever he does or says something stupid? Oh yeah, 'Idiot."
 
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We will see if the administration holds true to a student athlete having to take the GRE ,be admit to a graduate program and qualify for graduate status . If they do not hold true then they are a couple of hypocrites.The Board of Regents should take a stand that any potential graduate student must meet all standards and qualifications. The way the current coach is making offers to potential graduate transfers it seems like he thinks that he can disregard policy and standards to save his behind. I will seek an answer to your question and hold their feet to the fire.

So "the administration" is a "couple of...." something. Huh. Nameless, faceless couple of guys. Good to know.

And thanks for signing on to hold the BoR's feet to the fire. WSU will be known as the one University in the Country not to go 36 in a 35 speed zone.
 
I know the graduate transfer requirements for the NCAA have relaxed quite a bit. Schools routinely rank applicants for graduate school on criteria other than the GRE. If James has sufficient grades to demonstrate he would be successful in grad school, (standardized testing is one way of determining this as well), it's not abnormal to admit him based on academic merit.
 
Oh yeah lower the standards for basketball players. Anyone who has graduated from WSU with a graduate degree should be quite happy with that decision. If i remember Kent was applauded on this board for refusing to bend the rules. Now that this dufus comes along they all want James and others to be let in.What a sham and academic tragedy.Let this idiot loyal threaten people and talk about his own personal life which reportedly is in a shambles.The internet bully who thinks his own opinion amounts to more than a pile of dung.
 
Gee I see another post by ignored. Wonder what words of non-wisdom are coming out the mouth of a .....
 
I believe it's just the university. My understanding was a grad transfer has to achieve their secondary degree in something that isn't offered at their university?

Basically, they take classes to achieve a secondary major...don't quote me but that's always been how I've understood.

I thought Grad Transfers had to finish their undergraduate degree and to immediately transfer to another school they had to be admitted to a graduate program that was not offered at the previous school. Could be wrong though or maybe it changed. I remember hearing it's difficult for WSU to get grad transfers because athletes are required to go through the same process as any other student including meeting program requirements and application deadlines.

So below is today's story about a Texas A&M grad transfer looking at Gonzaga. Are you telling me that Gonzaga has a graduate program not offered at A&M? I'd like to see that course of study.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/may/01/transfer-guards-admon-gilder-david-jenkins-jr-visi/
 
grad transfer rules are as long as you have your degree and the grad program isn't offered at your current school doesn't have the program you want then your allowed to transfer. But WSU has their own stipulations. Like you have to have a 3.0gpa and you have to score a certain number on the GMAT. This made it very difficult for previous staff to land grad transfers. As far as Bernstein he was in the graduate program but as far as I know didn't complete the 2year program. WSU would help themselves if they lower the standard for grad transfers to get in and come up with a 1year grad program. Just my opinion.
 
grad transfer rules are as long as you have your degree and the grad program isn't offered at your current school doesn't have the program you want then your allowed to transfer. But WSU has their own stipulations. Like you have to have a 3.0gpa and you have to score a certain number on the GMAT. This made it very difficult for previous staff to land grad transfers. As far as Bernstein he was in the graduate program but as far as I know didn't complete the 2 year program. WSU would help themselves if they lower the standard for grad transfers to get in and come up with a 1year grad program. Just my opinion.

I still want to know what grad program Gonzaga offers that Texas A&M does not.

As far as WSU goes, while I hate to have barriers for transfers, we are a Tier 1 Research University. And we have been lowering our standards as it is on the undergrad level. So I do not agree that we should lower standards or water down our grad programs.
 
not so much lower standards but come up with a graduate program that is only one year. Otherwise we are going to continue missing out on grad transfers that could help us. If that's becoming one of the ways of recruiting then why not adapt and adjust to give our coaches a fighting chance to get the best talent possible???
 
I still want to know what grad program Gonzaga offers that Texas A&M does not.

As far as WSU goes, while I hate to have barriers for transfers, we are a Tier 1 Research University. And we have been lowering our standards as it is on the undergrad level. So I do not agree that we should lower standards or water down our grad programs.

I’m guessing they have some loopholes on the “not offered” criteria. For instance if a Masters in Education doesn’t have the exact same course requirements or it’s called something slightly different like Masters in Secondary Education you can check the not offered box.
 
I know the graduate transfer requirements for the NCAA have relaxed quite a bit. Schools routinely rank applicants for graduate school on criteria other than the GRE. If James has sufficient grades to demonstrate he would be successful in grad school, (standardized testing is one way of determining this as well), it's not abnormal to admit him based on academic merit.
Subject-based GREs are different, but the generic GRE is like half a step above the SAT from what I remember when I took it. That test is NOT hard, so any genuine university graduate should be able to scrape out a bare minimum score to suit a sliding scale that presumably combines a variety of (more) relevant factors. In other words, the generic GRE shouldn't really matter. GPA, subject matter tests, recommendations, outside work or activities relevant to the desired course of study, all should matter far more.
 
I’m guessing they have some loopholes on the “not offered” criteria. For instance if a Masters in Education doesn’t have the exact same course requirements or it’s called something slightly different like Masters in Secondary Education you can check the not offered box.
I would wager this is the answer folks are after on that particular question.
 
I believe the "not offered" criteria was eliminated by the NCAA several years ago. It wasn't being enforced anyway.

Regarding Bernstine, he was awarded a $9k post-grad scholarship by the Pac 12 at the end of last year. Not sure if he has finished yet - he mentioned trying to work in finishing his studies with playing overseas. I know he was a very good student.
 
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