I hope this is not the popular opinion...

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

but maybe it is.

From a tweet:
"Do you realize how much time these kids get to pursue internships/hands-on experience to these career fields they're getting "free" education in? Almost none. Do you realize that almost NOBODY gets a job from a degree alone? Obviously not. The scholarship is for unpaid labor."

I just can't with these kids and their enablers. The system is moving towards getting athletes compensated monetarily, but apparently not fast enough for some. If this is the popular sentiment and kids and families literally put no value in the scholarship then it might be time to blow it up completely and come up with a different way to conduct business, up to and including nixing college funded athletics entirely.

Another snippet, from our own Marcus Strong in regards to if a coach were to record a player and put them on blast:
"If they did do it they gone release an apology and still have millions in they account and once they release a statement the conversation gonna be over in 2 days players face different consequences than the coaches cause we supposed to just shut up and play"

So not only is he somehow concerned with what the coach is making (outside of the general concern about the "arms race" of college athletics, when did this become a concern of the players?) and feels its a) unfair and b) somehow affect him negatively, he is laboring (for free apparently) under the "plantation model" mentality, which was given a huge boost by Deshaun Jackson.

On the side but related note, it would be a damn shame to get rid of scholarship athletics. Outside of P5 football and basketball players, there are a ton of kids who are incredibly grateful and are benefited immensely by having their school paid for. Having school loans is an incredible burden to every person who's ever had to go that route. I don't know what the equitable solution is; I wish NCAA football wasn't the financial albatross that it has become.

A second side thought: I wonder how having a payment system that was deferred until after the player left school would be received.

 

[doggiedoo]

but maybe it is.

From a tweet:
"Do you realize how much time these kids get to pursue internships/hands-on experience to these career fields they're getting "free" education in? Almost none. Do you realize that almost NOBODY gets a job from a degree alone? Obviously not. The scholarship is for unpaid labor."

I just can't with these kids and their enablers. The system is moving towards getting athletes compensated monetarily, but apparently not fast enough for some. If this is the popular sentiment and kids and families literally put no value in the scholarship then it might be time to blow it up completely and come up with a different way to conduct business, up to and including nixing college funded athletics entirely.

Another snippet, from our own Marcus Strong in regards to if a coach were to record a player and put them on blast:
"If they did do it they gone release an apology and still have millions in they account and once they release a statement the conversation gonna be over in 2 days players face different consequences than the coaches cause we supposed to just shut up and play"

So not only is he somehow concerned with what the coach is making (outside of the general concern about the "arms race" of college athletics, when did this become a concern of the players?) and feels its a) unfair and b) somehow affect him negatively, he is laboring (for free apparently) under the "plantation model" mentality, which was given a huge boost by Deshaun Jackson.

On the side but related note, it would be a damn shame to get rid of scholarship athletics. Outside of P5 football and basketball players, there are a ton of kids who are incredibly grateful and are benefited immensely by having their school paid for. Having school loans is an incredible burden to every person who's ever had to go that route. I don't know what the equitable solution is; I wish NCAA football wasn't the financial albatross that it has become.

A second side thought: I wonder how having a payment system that was deferred until after the player left school would be received.

Based on Strong’s mess of words I’m guessing the people making these statements don’t have a clue as to the value of an education. Nor do they give a damn. Seriously, is reading and writing no longer a prerequisite for college?

 

[SDCoug]

but maybe it is.

From a tweet:
"Do you realize how much time these kids get to pursue internships/hands-on experience to these career fields they're getting "free" education in? Almost none. Do you realize that almost NOBODY gets a job from a degree alone? Obviously not. The scholarship is for unpaid labor."

I just can't with these kids and their enablers. The system is moving towards getting athletes compensated monetarily, but apparently not fast enough for some. If this is the popular sentiment and kids and families literally put no value in the scholarship then it might be time to blow it up completely and come up with a different way to conduct business, up to and including nixing college funded athletics entirely.

Another snippet, from our own Marcus Strong in regards to if a coach were to record a player and put them on blast:
"If they did do it they gone release an apology and still have millions in they account and once they release a statement the conversation gonna be over in 2 days players face different consequences than the coaches cause we supposed to just shut up and play"

So not only is he somehow concerned with what the coach is making (outside of the general concern about the "arms race" of college athletics, when did this become a concern of the players?) and feels its a) unfair and b) somehow affect him negatively, he is laboring (for free apparently) under the "plantation model" mentality, which was given a huge boost by Deshaun Jackson.

On the side but related note, it would be a damn shame to get rid of scholarship athletics. Outside of P5 football and basketball players, there are a ton of kids who are incredibly grateful and are benefited immensely by having their school paid for. Having school loans is an incredible burden to every person who's ever had to go that route. I don't know what the equitable solution is; I wish NCAA football wasn't the financial albatross that it has become.

A second side thought: I wonder how having a payment system that was deferred until after the player left school would be received.

God I miss college football. It feels like she died around 15 or 20 years ago. I miss her so much it hurts.

 

[79COUG]

I'll probably get ripped for this but I have a really difficult time taking seriously (Strong) someone who doesn't have at the very least an elementary grasp of the English language.

 

[SaveFerris]

I'll probably get ripped for this but I have a really difficult time taking seriously (Strong) someone who doesn't have at the very least an elementary grasp of the English language.

"Twitter English" is a language of it's own and it's intentional. I can understand the difficulty with interpretation but I personally wouldn't make a conclusion on his or her grasp of the English language based on a Twitter post.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Maybe it is time to blow up scholarships? Let P5 coaches break up the $. Offer 3/4, 1/2 and 1/4 rides.

The pie has gotten bigger and bigger while the slice the athletes get has stayed the same. At some point they were gonna look around at how much coaches and admin were getting paid and say something.

You can use the argument that the kids get compensated in the form of facilities. But so do coaches. The facilities help to advance the career of the players. They also help to advance the careers of the coaches. But the coaches got fat checks along with it. The kids go hungry on the weekend if the training table is closed.

When a HC takes down $3,000,000 ~ $9,000,000 per season and kids and families are struggling to make ends meet even with a full scholarship, are we surprised they look at the coach’s stack of chips and feel its inequitable?? I am not.

This is headed towards everything blowing up. I see this as corporate greed at the college level. Putting video games in lockers is only gonna go so far. The kids want $ in their bank accounts too.

 

[dgibbons]

Maybe it is time to blow up scholarships? Let P5 coaches break up the $. Offer 3/4, 1/2 and 1/4 rides.

The pie has gotten bigger and bigger while the slice the athletes get has stayed the same. At some point they were gonna look around at how much coaches and admin were getting paid and say something.

You can use the argument that the kids get compensated in the form of facilities. But so do coaches. The facilities help to advance the career of the players. They also help to advance the careers of the coaches. But the coaches got fat checks along with it. The kids go hungry on the weekend if the training table is closed.

When a HC takes down $3,000,000 ~ $9,000,000 per season and kids and families are struggling to make ends meet even with a full scholarship, are we surprised they look at the coach’s stack of chips and feel its inequitable?? I am not.

This is headed towards everything blowing up. I see this as corporate greed at the college level. Putting video games in lockers is only gonna go so far. The kids want $ in their bank accounts too.

The cost of education has exploded over the last 20 years. Incorrect to say what athletes get has remained the same.

 

[AncientCoug]

The cost of education has exploded over the last 20 years. Incorrect to say what athletes get has remained the same.

The cost has exploded but the value has remained about the same. That’s yet another problem in my opinion, the cost of a college education seems to increase exponentially but it’s not clear where all the extra money goes.

 

[mikalalas]

A College Education is about 200k to 350k for 4 years of College, depending on the college, city, state, etc.

That cost includes Housing, Food, Books, Tuition, the actual education, the degree, the facilities, etc, etc.

If took that about 340k and broke it down, that would be about a $45 a hour, 1800 a week, 7k a month, 85k a year, 340k in 4 years.

So they are getting paid about $45 a hour, $1800 a week, $7k a month, $85k a year, $340k per 4 years.

If they dont think so. Fine replace schollies with paying them about $50 a hour, $2000 a week, $8k a month, and let them pay for their own tuition, books, food, etc, while the play College football as their Job.

Whether its that way, or whether they get a scholly, etc, its about the same, and the players dont even realize that.

And maybe someone should educate, explain that to the players.

Also $340k in 4 years is more then a USA President, and a US Senator, and a USA Governor gets for a 2 to 4 year period of time.

Are the players saying they are worth more then USA presidents, Senators, Governors?

 

[chugspig]

A College Education is about 200k to 350k for 4 years of College, depending on the college, city, state, etc.

That cost includes Housing, Food, Books, Tuition, the actual education, the degree, the facilities, etc, etc.

If took that about 340k and broke it down, that would be about a $45 a hour, 1800 a week, 7k a month, 85k a year, 340k in 4 years.

So they are getting paid about $45 a hour, $1800 a week, $7k a month, $85k a year, $340k per 4 years.

If they dont think so. Fine replace schollies with paying them about $50 a hour, $2000 a week, $8k a month, and let them pay for their own tuition, books, food, etc, while the play College football as their Job.

Whether its that way, or whether they get a scholly, etc, its about the same, and the players dont even realize that.

And maybe someone should educate, explain that to the players.

Also $340k in 4 years is more then a USA President, and a US Senator, and a USA Governor gets for a 2 to 4 year period of time.

Are the players saying they are worth more then USA presidents, Senators, Governors?

My taint hair is worth more than our governmental leadership at all levels.

 

[dgibbons]

The cost has exploded but the value has remained about the same. That’s yet another problem in my opinion, the cost of a college education seems to increase exponentially but it’s not clear where all the extra money goes.

If the cost of a routine medical procedure, a gallon of gas or a loaf of bread goes up it doesn’t mean that you receive better healthcare, superior gasoline or better bread.

 

[dgibbons]

My taint hair is worth more than our governmental leadership at all levels.

The real question is whether a waxing is worth more....

 

[Coug90]

My taint hair is worth more than our governmental leadership at all levels.

Keep the Roggaine away from that vicinity

 

[chugspig]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DcotYF3aNVM


Mr. Show taint episode

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

View embedded media

Mr. Show taint episode

THAT SKIT IS CLASSIC!!!

 

[random soul]

Maybe it is time to blow up scholarships? Let P5 coaches break up the $. Offer 3/4, 1/2 and 1/4 rides.

The pie has gotten bigger and bigger while the slice the athletes get has stayed the same. At some point they were gonna look around at how much coaches and admin were getting paid and say something.

You can use the argument that the kids get compensated in the form of facilities. But so do coaches. The facilities help to advance the career of the players. They also help to advance the careers of the coaches. But the coaches got fat checks along with it. The kids go hungry on the weekend if the training table is closed.

When a HC takes down $3,000,000 ~ $9,000,000 per season and kids and families are struggling to make ends meet even with a full scholarship, are we surprised they look at the coach’s stack of chips and feel its inequitable?? I am not.

This is headed towards everything blowing up. I see this as corporate greed at the college level. Putting video games in lockers is only gonna go so far. The kids want $ in their bank accounts too.

The TV money is the faucet. When that flow starts to slow down, everything else will scale back accordingly. I honestly thought it would have happened by now

 

[CougInSpain]

The cost has exploded but the value has remained about the same. That’s yet another problem in my opinion, the cost of a college education seems to increase exponentially but it’s not clear where all the extra money goes.

One would argue that the college campus "facilities" race and Title IX has had a huge impact on increasing revenues. Like the substantial increases in costs for a college education these days, the overhead costs to fund non-revenue generating sports has also substantially increased. Couple these factors along with Limo Larry and his band of Valet drivers imposing massive expenditures with a crappy ROI and you have a broke-d1ck conference such as ours. If this "Movement" gains any sort of traction, it will be the end of college athletics as we know it and all because of the political "stomp my feet and cry as loud as I can until you give me what I want" culture that has been cultivated and harbored. WSU Football is literally the only sport I look forward to every year and its looking like it could all be blown up Beruit style (too soon?).

 

[How_did_this_happen?]

The cost has exploded but the value has remained about the same. That’s yet another problem in my opinion, the cost of a college education seems to increase exponentially but it’s not clear where all the extra money goes.

Answer: administrators and overhead. I think profs also get paid a hellava lot more than they used to...in real terms.