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I wonder if Tommy Tuberville's comments will have black players

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rethinking about playing for "them".

In talking about reparations Double T said that "they" are ok stealing because they see it as reparations. When Manafort embezzled 15 mil I wonder if he did it because of reparations, thought the money was owed to him.
 
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Right. Seems irrelevant to WSU football, volleyball, soccer, or even student life.
You mean like your posts about Catholic opposition to the vaccine and your posts about electric vehicles and other sources of energy .

Athletes will start looking at coaches and wonder if a former auburn coach and coach of the year can feel that way about athletes they will ask “how does my coach feel about me “.

With that said your objection is noted .
 
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You mean like your posts about Catholic opposition to the vaccine and your posts about electric vehicles and other sources of energy .
All natural topic changes in the flow of conversation that started with Coug related discussion. It wasn’t a new thread.

Athletes will start looking at coaches and wonder if a former auburn coach and coach of the year can feel that way about athletes they will ask “how does my coach feel about me “.

With that said your objection is noted .
Still don’t get the connection to WSU.
 
All natural topic changes in the flow of conversation that started with Coug related discussion. It wasn’t a new thread.


Still don’t get the connection to WSU.

And you still dont have to read the thread or comment. There are and have been a zillion posts that have nothing to do with WSU on this msg board.
 
And you still dont have to read the thread or comment. There are and have been a zillion posts that have nothing to do with WSU on this msg board.
It the political nature of Ed’s posts that become tiresome. I thought he needed a typing-lashing.
 
It the political nature of Ed’s posts that become tiresome. I thought he needed a typing-lashing.
Oh Suiudy thank you for at least coming clean on your objection .

And what is “political” of my post? Please do tell.
 
rethinking about playing for "them".

In talking about reparations Double T said that "they" are ok stealing because they see it as reparations. When Manafort embezzled 15 mil I wonder if he did it because of reparations, thought the money was owed to him.
Who knows but Tuberville clearly knows his audience - the MAGA’s loved it.
 
Clearly you didn’t watch the video: the crowd went nuts. Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

I guess that small fringe crowd is representative of half the country that voted for Trump then.

So I guess Antifa is representative of all democrats then
 
I guess that small fringe crowd is representative of half the country that voted for Trump then.

So I guess Antifa is representative of all democrats then
It is baked into the MAGA message and has been since the day Trump descended the golden escalator and railed about Mexican immigrants as drug dealers and rapists.

This apparently is difficult for you to grasp but the Democratic Party is not affiliated with Antifa.

But that begs the question: are you pro-fascist or anti-fascist?
 
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It is baked into the MAGA message and has been since the day Trump descended the golden escalator and railed about Mexican immigrants as drug dealers and rapists.

This apparently is difficult for you to grasp but the Democratic Party is not affiliated with Antifa.

But that begs the question: are you pro-fascist or anti-fascist?

When it comes to Antifa, actions speak louder than words. They are anything but Anti Fascist. They stifle free speech and show up with weapons at every opportunity.

They absolutely are associated with the democratic party. When their actions are never condemned by democratic leaders, then they are sanctioned. ..much like the 2020 riots

And asking me if I am pro facism because I am anti Antifa shows your level of simplisitc thinking...which is just idiotic.
 
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All natural topic changes in the flow of conversation that started with Coug related discussion. It wasn’t a new thread.


Still don’t get the connection to WSU.
Got it...just don't initiate a post that you don't feel is relevant to WSU. But feel free to chime in if someone morphs the subject. Maybe you could explain the difference. The issue is you feeling it is political which you have stated the type lashing you thought I deserved.
 
I guess that small fringe crowd is representative of half the country that voted for Trump then.

So I guess Antifa is representative of all democrats then
Sponge....I do have a couple of thoughts. First, Willy is spot on. It was said at a MAGA rally, and that part of the speech got the loudest ovation. What is incorrect about what Willy said? The MAGA's in the crowd did love it. That is how I took it.

Two, the issue isn't political, and I will say I am not surprised at all by the response by Suudy. But somehow instead of condemning the vile behavior of Blubberville, your response comes across as defensive as you and others that have a conservative philosophy are the folks being harmed. Even if Willy meant every MAGA person(which I don't think he was referring to), how does that harm you? Yes it is untrue in your case, you are not a bigot. Now what?

This is about a coach who made millions on the backs of 18-22 year olds. How many black kids would have played at Auburn if they knew Blubberville felt that black people stole because they felt that was what was owed to them? You are upset because you think Willie put you and others who may be conservative in that bigot box, imagine if you were lumped in with every person who has committed a crime because of your skin color. And then someone makes millions off you even though they have no respect or value for you. That is plain gross.
 
When it comes to Antifa, actions speak louder than words. They are anything but Anti Fascist. They stifle free speech and show up with weapons at every opportunity.

They absolutely are associated with the democratic party. When their actions are never condemned by democratic leaders, then they are sanctioned. ..much like the 2020 riots
Just as Nazis and Klansmen are associated with the Republican Party since Trump called them “fine people” and there were no repercussions from the Republican Party.

Just as the Republican Party is associated with racists since the Republican Party has failed to hold Trump accountable for his words.

Just as Authoritarianism and Fascism are associated with the Republican Party demonstrated by their flirtations with Victor Orbsn and praising of his dismantling of Democracy in Hungary.

Just as is anti-democracy and anti-Americanism associated with the Republican Party with their failure to address the attempted Coup by Trump and endorsement of the lie that the election was stolen from him.
 
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The issue is you feeling it is political which you have stated the type lashing you thought I deserved.
Apparently not just me. Look where the entire conversation has gone. The responses to your post have gone fully political. And still completely irrelevant to WSU.

And for the record, I don't think I've started a thread irrelevant to WSU. I might have, I don't recall. And if I did, I deserve a type-lashing for that.
 
Sponge....I do have a couple of thoughts. First, Willy is spot on. It was said at a MAGA rally, and that part of the speech got the loudest ovation. What is incorrect about what Willy said? Unless you were at the speech not sure how he was talking about you or anyone else.

Two, the issue isn't political, and I will say I am not surprised at all by the response by Suudy. But somehow instead of condemning the vile behavior of Blubberville, your response comes across as defensive as you and others that have a conservative philosophy are the folks being harmed.

This is about a coach who made millions on the backs of 18-22 year olds. How many black kids would have played at Auburn if they knew Blubberville felt that black people stole because they felt that was what was owed to them? You are upset because you think Willie put you and others who may be conservative in that bigot box, imagine if you were lumped in with every person who has committed a crime because of your skin color. And then someone makes millions off you even though they have no respect or value for you. That is plain gross.
Well..it was about me because anyone who voted for Trump is considered MAGA...and he just said it made the entire maga community happy.
 
It's Mr Suudy to you. Get it right.

And wasn't that obvious? Not only did you start an irrelevant thread about WSU, but you went political too.

Answered by others.
Others didn't make the comment about this post, you did. Feel free to point out the political nature of MY post.
 
Well..it was about me because anyone who voted for Trump is considered MAGA...and he just said it made the entire maga community happy.
Well....not what he said...and I could be wrong but he said Blubberville knew his audience. His audience was a rally in Nevada. They cheered wildly. He wasn't speaking to a national audience. That is important context.
 
Others didn't make the comment about this post, you did. Feel free to point out the political nature of MY post.
Really? Is it that hard to notice? What have sponge and WIllie be talking about, other than politics? And it came directly in response to your post.

Don't be coy. It was political and you knew it. Because it was related to football only by way of a former coach, you somehow think it relevant to WSU? Oh, that's right, WSU played Auburn when Tuberville there. :rolleyes:
 
Others didn't make the comment about this post, you did. Feel free to point out the political nature of MY post.
Ed with all do respect if you’d left the Manafort part out of it your argument would have some legs. Tubb was a well known football coach who made a living recruiting black athletes, and turns out he’s a vile racist. That alone could have been discussed and, I agree that it’s interesting that coaches can recruit black athletes when deep down they are racist pigs. His political affiliation should have no interest in this discussion. When you brought up Manafort you took it there.

And yes a boatload of topics outside of WSU are posted here. Hell there’s game threads for UW games. So Suudy’s argument is silly there but in fairness I understand why he jumped on you for this post.
 
Sponge....I do have a couple of thoughts. First, Willy is spot on. It was said at a MAGA rally, and that part of the speech got the loudest ovation. What is incorrect about what Willy said? The MAGA's in the crowd did love it. That is how I took it.

Two, the issue isn't political, and I will say I am not surprised at all by the response by Suudy. But somehow instead of condemning the vile behavior of Blubberville, your response comes across as defensive as you and others that have a conservative philosophy are the folks being harmed. Even if Willy meant every MAGA person(which I don't think he was referring to), how does that harm you? Yes it is untrue in your case, you are not a bigot. Now what?

This is about a coach who made millions on the backs of 18-22 year olds. How many black kids would have played at Auburn if they knew Blubberville felt that black people stole because they felt that was what was owed to them? You are upset because you think Willie put you and others who may be conservative in that bigot box, imagine if you were lumped in with every person who has committed a crime because of your skin color. And then someone makes millions off you even though they have no respect or value for you. That is plain gross.

Also did you not see where I said that TT's comments were stupid?

And it is always spoken or insinuated thal supporters are racist....but I guess I am just supposed to be ok with that,
 
Apparently not just me. Look where the entire conversation has gone. The responses to your post have gone fully political. And still completely irrelevant to WSU.

And for the record, I don't think I've started a thread irrelevant to WSU. I might have, I don't recall. And if I did, I deserve a type-lashing for that.
Ok Mrs. Suudy....again, you said it was political and point to responses, yet you get those aren't my responses? That is a cardinal sin (say 5 hail mary's?)

I think both of us have something in common, we were both raised in the Catholic church. Or if you weren't you were certainly converted as you have as much knowledge about the church as anyone I know.

While I don't have the detail that you have, maybe what I learned is different than you. Maybe protocol and ritual is more important. But what I got is different than standing and sitting, taking communion, and turning around and saying bless you to someone I don't know.

My mother gave me a sense to call out sh!t when it is wrong. Treating people like crap is wrong. Tuberville's bigotry is wrong. And I don't care what side of the aisle he is on. You do understand that I know there are bigoted dems as well...correct?

With the Oath keepers the klan and others, they are less dangerous that the likes of Tuberville. You don't get blindsided by their hate.

Imagine if I said that all Catholics wanted to have sex with little boys because they feel they deserve it, Nothing like being put in a generalization is there? My guess if someone said that you would have called out the wrong that was being committed....
 
Tubb was a well known football coach who made a living recruiting black athletes, and turns out he’s a vile racist.
Or, he said something stupid and it failed to make his point clearly. Frankly, I don't think it possible for him to have made to the head coach of storied programs if he was a "vile racist."

And yes a boatload of topics outside of WSU are posted here. Hell there’s game threads for UW games. So Suudy’s argument is silly there but in fairness I understand why he jumped on you for this post.
Only somewhat silly. Sometimes stupid needs silly as a counterpoint.
 
Just as Nazis and Klansmen are associated with the Republican Party since Trump called them “fine people” and there were no repercussions from the Republican Party.

Just as the Republican Party is associated with racists since the Republican Party has failed to hold Trump accountable for his words.

Just as Authoritarianism and Fascism are associated with the Republican Party demonstrated by their flirtations with Victor Orbsn and praising of his dismantling of Democracy in Hungary.

Just as is
anti-democracy and anti-Americanism associated with the Republican Party with their failure to address the attempted Coup by Trump and endorsement of the lie that the election was stolen from him.

You are funny.
 
Ok Mrs. Suudy....again, you said it was political and point to responses, yet you get those aren't my responses? That is a cardinal sin (say 5 hail mary's?)
I didn't say they were your responses. I'm saying your original post was political as it was intended to be and has sparked a political conversation.
I think both of us have something in common, we were both raised in the Catholic church. Or if you weren't you were certainly converted as you have as much knowledge about the church as anyone I know.
Right, I am a convert. So our baptism might be the only thing we have in common--besides WSU football.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I'm sure we have *a lot* in common. Such as:
  • Heterosexual, white male
  • Have children
  • Went to WSU
  • Have college degrees
  • Have successful careers
  • Know white, Asian, black, Mexican, Russian, German, Australian, etc. people
  • Have white, Asian, black, Mexican, Russian, German, Australian, etc. friends
  • Have visited a foreign country
  • Have drank beer
  • Enjoy steak and potatoes
  • Drive a vehicle
  • Flown in a plane
  • Watched Lost and was disappointed in the ending
  • Mowed a lawn or two
  • Hiked in the mountains
  • Snow skiied
  • Threw up at least once
  • Went to the ER as a patient or the family member of a patient
  • Have a parent that has died
  • Smoked a cigar
Seems we have a lot in common. I was wrong.
Imagine if I said that all Catholics wanted to have sex with little boys because they feel they deserve it, Nothing like being put in a generalization is there? My guess if someone said that you would have called out the wrong that was being committed....
I don't get too hyped over generalizations when used in rhetoric. They are making a point, not literal statements. Generic statements are usually hyperbole and if people didn't get all bound up and took it for what it is--hyperbole--I think conversations could be a lot more civilized.

Now, if someone said "Suudy is a Catholic, therefore he must have sex with little boys" then I might get miffed.

So, no, I'm not offended when someone says "all Catholics wanted to have sex with little boys ...."
 
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Or, he said something stupid and it failed to make his point clearly. Frankly, I don't think it possible for him to have made to the head coach of storied programs if he was a "vile racist."
Only somewhat silly. Sometimes stupid needs silly as a counterpoint.
perhaps. He’s certainly not the brightest fella to begin with. The fact that he is representing his state certainly makes it easier to understand how Hershall Walker can be within striking distance in GA.
 
It is baked into the MAGA message and has been since the day Trump descended the golden escalator and railed about Mexican immigrants as drug dealers and rapists.

This apparently is difficult for you to grasp but the Democratic Party is not affiliated with Antifa.

But that begs the question: are you pro-fascist or anti-fascist?

I am not pro trump, but I am or try to be a logical, rational, reasonable semi conservative to semi moderate to semi centrist to semi bi partisan to semi libertarian, semi independent, USA CONSTITUTIONALIST.

I support candidates like Joe Manchin, Tulsi Gabbard, Zen Miller, Joe Lieberman, (Democrats, independents), and Ben Carson, (BLACK Conservative Republican)

Yes I voted for Trump to STOP Hillary who belongs in prison.

As bad as what trump did, there are things that trump did good, and he was grossly misrepresented, had his words SPINNED, changed, forgotten, etc, by the LIBTARD LAMESTREAM MEDIA(by folks like YOU).

Trump said: AND SOME OF THEM ARE GOOD PEOPLE.


But I am against Trump's dumb, stupid, evil, etc, RHETORIC, and Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer, Pelosi RHETORIC, that helped SPARK the 2020 RIOTS, defund the police idiocy, and the Jan 6 INSURRECTION RIOTS, and the ASSASSINATION attempt of a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.


As bad as what trump did, there are things that trump did good, and he was grossly misrepresented, had his words SPINNED, changed, forgotten, etc, by the LIBTARD LAMESTREAM MEDIA(by folks like YOU).

Trump said: AND SOME OF THEM ARE GOOD PEOPLE.

meaning that some Mexican ILLEGAL ILLEGAL ILLEGAL ALIEN immigrants(NOT legal immigrants(LIBTARDS like you and the LAMESTREAM MEDIA always say IMMIGRANTS, instead of ILLEGAL ALIEN immigrants, to make it sound like against legal immigrants instead of against ILLEGAL ALIEN IMMIGRANTS), are GOOD people, that altho have good intentions, good people, are using wrong methodology(BREAKING THE LAW by ENTERING THE USA ILLEGALLY), AND some illegal alien immigrants are bad people that want to commit crimes, that do human trafficking, that smuggle drugs, murder, AKA the Mexican Drug Cartel, and MS 13, and even foreign terrorist, etc, that have DONE A LOT OF BAD, EVIL, CRIMES, MURDERS, etc.

That's TRUTH, FACT, etc. And LIBTARDS like you and the LIBTARD MEDIA have SPINNED the above into Trump, and conservatives, etc, are supposedly RACIST AGAINST ALL MEXICANS, ALL IMMIGRANTS, ILLEGAL AND LEGAL, AND THAT SUPPOSEDLY SAYING ALL OF THEM ARE BAD.

That's a FLAT OUT BLATANT SPIN, MISREPRESENTATION, LIE, BY LIARS LIKE LIBTARDS LIKE YOU AND THE LIBTARD MEDIA.

And this is from a person who has, had a lot of HISPANIC, BLACK friends, who had a KUWAITI EXCHANGE STUDENT FRIEND in college, and has a COOL, AWESOME HISPANIC brother in law that married my sister, that I wanted to marry my sister.

So don't even try to paint me as a racist, like others of your ILK do to me, people who say what I say.

And then you STUPIDLY defend ANTIFA.

ANTIFA was started by CARD CARRYING COMMUNIST PARTY members.

They are EXTREMELY VIOLENT. THEY ARE A DOMESTIC HATE, TERRORIST GROUP.

THEY HAVE ATTACKED, ASSAULTED, PUT IN HOSPITAL, KILLED(They walked up and punched, hit, either with their first, an or a WEAPON, and the person died), THEY ATTACKED, DESTROYED, FIRE BOMBED A USA FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ICE BUILDING AND HURT, INJURED, PUT IN HOSPITAL, ETC, ICE OFFICERS, COPS

They are the equivalent, comparable to the KKK, NEO NAZI'S

AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY LOOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH DEMOCRATS, DEMOCRAT PARTY.

You won't find Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians, independents in the ANTIFA membership ranks.

99% of ANTIFA members are DEMOCRATS, LIBERALS, SOCIALIST, MARXIST, COMMUNIST, etc.

DEMOCRATS want to get rid of ICE cops, JUST LIKE ANTIFA.

ANTIFA follows 99% of the LIBERAL SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT Agenda.

ANTIFA is to the Democrats what the Proud boys, Neo NAZI'S, White Supremacists, Q ANON, KKK, OATHKEEPER MILITIA(On Trial for Jan 6 riots), etc, is as CRAZY MINORITY MARGINALIZED FRINGE GROUPS are to conservatives, Republicans.

You can please STFU and stop your LYING, SPINNING, STUPIDITY, ETC.
 
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Also did you not see where I said that TT's comments were stupid?

And it is always spoken or insinuated thal supporters are racist....but I guess I am just supposed to be ok with that,
Ed with all do respect if you’d left the Manafort part out of it your argument would have some legs. Tubb was a well known football coach who made a living recruiting black athletes, and turns out he’s a vile racist. That alone could have been discussed and, I agree that it’s interesting that coaches can recruit black athletes when deep down they are racist pigs. His political affiliation should have no interest in this discussion. When you brought up Manafort you took it there.

And yes a boatload of topics outside of WSU are posted here. Hell there’s game threads for UW games. So Suudy’s argument is silly there but in fairness I understand why he jumped on you for this post.
I didn't bring up his political affiliation. Ummm...you made a huge leap that was totally inaccurate. My post was about a former coach's ignorance saying black people stole because they wanted reparations.

So to prove a point I will ask you a question, and you have to immediately respond without scrolling the internet, agreed?
 
I didn't say they were your responses. I'm saying your original post was political as it was intended to be and has sparked a political conversation.

Right, I am a convert. So our baptism might be the only thing we have in common--besides WSU football.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I'm sure we have *a lot* in common. Such as:
  • Heterosexual, white male
  • Have children
  • Went to WSU
  • Have college degrees
  • Have successful careers
  • Know white, Asian, black, Mexican, Russian, German, Australian, etc. people
  • Have white, Asian, black, Mexican, Russian, German, Australian, etc. friends
  • Have visited a foreign country
  • Have drank beer
  • Enjoy steak and potatoes
  • Drive a vehicle
  • Flown in a plane
  • Watched Lost and was disappointed in the ending
  • Mowed a lawn or two
  • Hiked in the mountains
  • Snow skiied
  • Threw up at least once
  • Went to the ER as a patient or the family member of a patient
  • Have a parent that has died
  • Smoked a cigar
Seems we have a lot in common. I was wrong.

I don't get too hyped over generalizations when used in rhetoric. They are making a point, not literal statements. Generic statements are usually hyperbole and if people didn't get all bound up and took it for what it is--hyperbole--I think conversations could be a lot more civilized.

Now, if someone said "Suudy is a Catholic, therefore he must have sex with little boys" then I might get miffed.

So, no, I'm not offended when someone says "all Catholics wanted to have sex with little boys ...."
Oh, you just get a smidge miffed when talking about a bigot football coach....like I said your objection is noted.
 
I didn't bring up his political affiliation. Ummm...you made a huge leap that was totally inaccurate. My post was about a former coach's ignorance saying black people stole because they wanted reparations.

So to prove a point I will ask you a question, and you have to immediately respond without scrolling the internet, agreed?
But it isn’t a fringe minority anymore: the majority of republicans believe Trump’s election lie.

This is what complacency and repeatedly looking the other way get you. The crazy in the Republican Party has spread like herpes in a bath house. Hell, even QAnon is going more mainstream in the party.
 
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