I wonder if we will truly be west coast only...or if we go east
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You only go east with bigger schools, if the ACC implodes and you fold in an East Pod.
I'm sorry, but including the teams mentioned creates a MWC 2.0. There's nothing exciting about this.
These schools were added for the potential media value, that's it. Fresno and SDSU will bring viewers.
I still wouldn't rule out WSU going to the ACC or Big-12 in the future either. The timing around this is related to the new schools and the timing of the exit fees. (Have to act now).
Umm BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, CSU, Memphis, Tulane, WSU, OSU, is a LOT BETTER then a MWC 2.0.
A MWC couldn't, wouldn't hold a candle, jock strap of a PAC 8 comprised of those specific TOP, BEST OF BEST HYBRID G5, P5 teams.
And BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, Memphis, Tulane, is worthy to join a Big 12, ACC.
Only 1 that isn't worthy is CSU.
And in 2028 when CFP does a look in evaluation, PAC 8, will get more Media deal money, CFP money, at least HYBRID G5, P5 status, and a semi guaranteed, semi automatic 9-3, 10-2, 11-1 PAC 8 champion into CFP 19 out of 20 years, over all the other G5 conference champs from MWC, AAC, Sun Belt, MAAC, etc.
That's what Ross Dellinger, Yahoo Sports meant when said that PAC 8 would get 1 practically guaranteed, automatic PAC 8 champ spot in CFP, according to insider expert sources in the know that told Ross Dellinger, Yahoo Sports that.
"BSU, SDSU, Fresno St, CSU, Memphis, Tulane, WSU, OSU, is a LOT BETTER then a MWC 2.0."
That's a tough combo of a season ticket package to sell for WSU and OSU. That is a MWC 2.0, it's lipstick on a pig.
I don't know. I think that many of our fans are going to view this as a relief after the long period of uncertainty and given our lackluster schedule this season.
In alternating years, we'll play Oregon State, UW, Boise State, Fresno, Colorado State, and SDSU. Those are solid, recognizable west coast programs that our fan base is familiar with. Boise State, UW, and Oregon State will all travel well, so the game day atmosphere will be good.
Memphis and Tulane are decent names in their region, but not so much out here. I'm hoping we can add some ACC castaways. A collection of programs like Pitt, Boston College, Wake Forest, NC State, Louisville, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and of course Cal and Stanford would be great additions.
I’d like to see Air Force in the new PAC-12.
I'd rather see us poach the B12 and keep it more central. 3 hour plan rides are better than 6 hour plane rides.
No way PAC succeeds in poaching from Big 12. A exception might be Iowa St, and even that would be a stretch.
I lean normally toward following the money and larger markets / exposure. That said, I believe there is long-term value, potentially including longer-run financial value, in positioning the Pac-12 as a true western conference, clearly the best of the G of 5/6 and aspirationally Power 5 over time, with limited travel and where athletes on the west coast can get legitimate national-level exposure, preparation for the next level, and a legitimate shot at the playoff, all without absurd travel and disruption to student-athletes' lives like what UCLA is going through this year. That should help the conference keep some players that otherwise might default toward the P4 conferences, and the pitch should resonate with a lot of transfers who originally went outside the footprint. It might also help head off some transfers we otherwise would see.
This doesn't mean the conference couldn't adjust to what happens and ultimately expand geographically. It's not the only way to go. But it's an opportunity to do something that could set the conference apart. It also is relatively easy and cheap, while involving less direct risk, which leads me to think it's what we will see.
This doesn't mean the conference couldn't adjust to what happens and ultimately expand geographically. It's not the only way to go. But it's an opportunity to do something that could set the conference apart. It also is relatively easy and cheap, while involving less direct risk, which leads me to think it's what we will see.
A voice of reason. So who? UNLV obviously. Then either Wyoming or Air Force or SJSU or UNR or Utah State? In that order.
I don't like this setup, but it is what it is. At 8 teams, we need to have our 5 non-con games against P4 teams. Or at lest G5 teams. mutts, CalFurd, FUSC/FUCLA (those would be away games). The Big-12 traitors might do home and homes.
Honestly, if those are the choices I have to go with SJSU. They at least give us an appearance in the Bay Area. Wyoming and Reno don’t have market or recruiting grounds, Air Force and Utah state are only marginally better for either. Plus, most years having SJSU on the schedule is like playing an FCS team without actually playing an FCS team.
I understand what you're saying on San Jose St, but I'd rather have Wyoming just because of it being the entire state or Air Force for name recognition.
I have a soft spot for Nevada with the fun of Reno and a good excuse to go back down. They've had legit basketball success too
If I were to pick two teams to get us to 8 teams, it would be Air Force and UNLV.
East. Better options. But this is likely a west coast pod.
As I've mentioned, I'd like to see the ACC, Big XII (and the new Pac) cooperate in some manner. Whether that means an all out merger, scheduling agreement that excludes B1G and SEC, or whatever. The best play is to go with strength in numbers.
Big 12teams get too much $ to drop to the PAC. That will never happen, as it stands now. They make 7 times what a PAC team will make.
Nobody from the Big 12 is coming to the Pac-Whatever. They are getting $31 million per year in the Big 12. We will be lucky to get $20 million per year and my guess is that it's going to be somewhere between $12 and $15 million. For the MWC schools that are joining us, they are going to see a huge bump given that their current deal only pays between $3.5 and $5 million (including basketball).
It's likely to be more like 2.5x when the dust settles, but the principle is accurate.
It's been awhile since I was in Boise, but it's a really nice small city. The downtown is what I wish for Pullman. I'm sure it doesn't hurt that it's the state Capital.
Partially True and False. Since the PAC 8 teams will at the very least get about 13 mil, 14 mil, 15 mil, 16 mil, 17 mil, 18 mil per team, per year media deal, and since 7 times that would be about 112 mil per team, per year, in the Big 12 media deal, the Big 12 media deal is NOT about 112 per team, per year, as that would be even more then the SEC, Big 10 pay out per team, per year, thus Big 12's media deal is nowhere even close to close to being 7 times what the PAC 8 media deal would be at minimum.
The Big 12 media deal is about 33 mil per team per year, about 1.5 times what the PAC 8 teams would get per team, per year.
Your errantly exaggerating.
So you're saying they have a large section of books dedicated to getting one's CDL?
