If the QB battle is close, do they go with JDL...

[BiggsCoug]

Yes to pretty much everything here, but the key point to me is that the D is forced to respect the possibility that the QB will run. Having to respect the possibility limits the DC somewhat, and that is what successful offenses scheme to accomplish.

Make the DC put players on the field that have to be able to play the run, the pass and qb run. When you are 1 dimensional the DC only has to game plan for 1 thing. He doesnt have to coach up kids to defend multiple attack points. He doesnt have to coach kids to do something that may be a weakness for them. He can put his best 11 at defending the run or pass on the field and not worry about them having to do something else.

For example, if the offense is going to run the ball every down…. Prob not going to see 250lbs pass rushers. Prob not going to see 190lbs linebackers. Youre gonna see 300lbs on the DL and 250lbs at LB. What happens when those big bodies have to run sideline to sideline and defend the pass as well???? Sluggggishhhhh….

When a defense has to defend 4 verts, crossing patterns, a legit inside run and the qb taking off… they simply cant get there. It is a short list of defenses that can be stretched long, wide, play big bodies in the middle and chase a qb.

WSU has the players to do all those things. Do they have the coaching? I hope so.

 

[mikalalas]

Make the DC put players on the field that have to be able to play the run, the pass and qb run. When you are 1 dimensional the DC only has to game plan for 1 thing. He doesnt have to coach up kids to defend multiple attack points. He doesnt have to coach kids to do something that may be a weakness for them. He can put his best 11 at defending the run or pass on the field and not worry about them having to do something else.

For example, if the offense is going to run the ball every down…. Prob not going to see 250lbs pass rushers. Prob not going to see 190lbs linebackers. Youre gonna see 300lbs on the DL and 250lbs at LB. What happens when those big bodies have to run sideline to sideline and defend the pass as well???? Sluggggishhhhh….

When a defense has to defend 4 verts, crossing patterns, a legit inside run and the qb taking off… they simply cant get there. It is a short list of defenses that can be stretched long, wide, play big bodies in the middle and chase a qb.

WSU has the players to do all those things. Do they have the coaching? I hope so.

Well a typical Run and Shoot typically runs about 34,35,36,37% of the time, and passes about 62,63,64,65,66% of the time, and runs a balanced Mix of 4 Verts, Crossing Patterns, Post Routes, Curls, Slants, Sideline passes, Tosses, passes to RB's in the flat, and or that running a route, bubble screens, Shovel passes, draws, traps, up middle, off guard, off tackle, run right, run left, jet sweeps right and left, QB runs, counting box numbers, if 3,4,5 then audible to Run, if 6,7,8,9 in Box, then audible from run to pass, throws mix of short passes, mid passes, deep passes, stretches field, makes defense defend, cover every blade of grass, against both run, passes, takes what can getz what the defense gives them, has WR's change routes to get open, etc

When the Run and Shoot does all those things, then the Run and Shoot is hard to stop.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Well a typical Run and Shoot typically runs about 34,35,36,37% of the time, and passes about 62,63,64,65,66% of the time, and runs a balanced Mix of 4 Verts, Crossing Patterns, Post Routes, Curls, Slants, Sideline passes, Tosses, passes to RB's in the flat, and or that running a route, bubble screens, Shovel passes, draws, traps, up middle, off guard, off tackle, run right, run left, jet sweeps right and left, QB runs, counting box numbers, if 3,4,5 then audible to Run, if 6,7,8,9 in Box, then audible from run to pass, throws mix of short passes, mid passes, deep passes, stretches field, makes defense defend, cover every blade of grass, against both run, passes, takes what can getz what the defense gives them, has WR's change routes to get open, etc

When the Run and Shoot does all those things, then the Run and Shoot is hard to stop.

Right. So dont f$&k it up.

 

[froropmkr72]

I'm convinced by the mustache. No one rocks that without supreme confidence.

Looks like one of the members from Boston. That stache is more than a feeling.

 

[Coug90]

Apples and oranges

That was a way tougher QB competition, for one.

And even if Gubrud hadn't come to WSU there was indications that Gordon as a Senior was ready to start.

Also Gordon was a DEVELOPED, COACHED UP SENIOR, not a freshman or sophmore like Gabalis, and JDL.

Also Gubrud HAD A BAD INJURY, if not for that, Gubrud probably would have been the starter, that injury really made Gubrud Fall behind Gordon.

Also that was Mike Effin Leach, he had the ability to make that kind of decision.

Rolo? While I would trust Mike Leach to choose Gordon, or a Gabalis, JDL, I wouldn't trust Rolo to make that kind of decision to start a Gordon or a Gabalis, or a JDL over a Gubrud or Guarantano or Cooper, and have that decision work out well.

Also Gabalis is Walk On either FRESHMAN, RRDSHIRT FRESHMAN, EITHER 1ST YEAR, OR 2ND YEAR QB.

Yes JDL was made the starter as a True freshman, but thats only because JDL was the best of 3 bad choices, and had literally no good competition.

No effin way would Mike Leach have started JDL as a freshman, and would start a 1st year, 2nd year QB's over a Gubrud or a Guarantano.

Gordon was a 5th year senior. Apples to Potatoes comparison.

Also Leach wanted to start Gubrud, but Gordon blew Gubrud away. If it had been extremely close, too close to call, Leach Likely would have started Gubrud.

Again big difference between 5tj year senior Gordon, and 1st year or 2nd year Walk On QB Gabalis.

And before you mention Luke Falk. Falk had way easier competition then this seasons Guarantano, Cooper.

Also Like Falk was a 3rd year QB in his RRDSHIRT Sophomore year when he became the starter.

Also again I trust Leach to spot a Gordon, a Luke Falk, and I don't trust Rolo to spot a Gordon, Luke Falk.

I guarantee you that if Guarantano becomes the starter, and if he doesn't get injured, and if crazy things like massive team injuries don't happen, that Guarantano will have the better performances, stats, win about 6,7,8,9 games.

Cooper will win about 5,6,7,8 games.

JDL will win about 3,4,5,6 games as a range

Gabalis will win about 3,4,5 games.

Gabalis, JDL are Craps gambling dice rolls. Yeah sure Rolo could get LUCKY, get a 7 or a 11 on the dice and have Gabalis, JDL do extremely good.

They are the RISKIER choices

Guarantano, Cooper are the SAFER, LESS RISKIER CHOICES, but they don't have the HOME RUN pay off that could maybe get with Gabalis, JDL.

With Guarantano your pretty much guaranteed to either get a base hit, double, triple, etc.

With Gabalis, JDL, your going to get big swingers that have a greater chance of striking out, but might get lucky and hit a home run.

I'd rather take the safer, less risky, single, double hitting Guarantano, or Cooper, over a Gabalis, JDL who while will swing big, will probably strike out, and not homer.

Also Leach could afford to gamble on Gordon, instead of starting Gubrud.

Rolo can't afford to gamble on Gabalis, JDL, He needs to win NOW, and Guarantano, Cooper are his best chances to do that.

Lol no it’s F’ing not. It’s a wide open QB competition with guys who were recruited here and transfers. You don’t have to over complicate everything.

 

[mister noon]

Cam looks like he’s put on some good weight since last year. Looks more the part.

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how much does a mustache weigh?

 

[Beattie JR]

Lol no it’s F’ing not. It’s a wide open QB competition with guys who were recruited here and transfers. You don’t have to over complicate everything.

I watched JG for four years and the guy is a great kid but maddeningly inconsistent. If he makes one mistake, he will make four or five as he cannot snap and clear.
He is not what I call a playmaker and was always,always,always on the verge of losing the job. He CAN make all the throws. He is not a statue and has decent mobility. His problem is HOLDING the ball too long, throwing late, and not processing information fast enough but he will have games of throwing 300 yards and looking competent. Then he will absolutely IMPLODE and turn it over five or six times.
I want him to do well at Washington ST because he is a great kid. I hope the lightbulb comes on for him.

 

[mikalalas]

I watched JG for four years and the guy is a great kid but maddeningly inconsistent. If he makes one mistake, he will make four or five as he cannot snap and clear.
He is not what I call a playmaker and was always,always,always on the verge of losing the job. He CAN make all the throws. He is not a statue and has decent mobility. His problem is HOLDING the ball too long, throwing late, and not processing information fast enough but he will have games of throwing 300 yards and looking competent. Then he will absolutely IMPLODE and turn it over five or six times.
I want him to do well at Washington ST because he is a great kid. I hope the lightbulb comes on for him.

He will do good at WSU because at WSU he will not does not have SHET COACHES, SHET SYSTEM, SHET TEAM, SHET O LINE, SHET PLAYERS, 3,4,5 SHET COACHES IN 1,2,3 YEARS, 5 SHET SYSTEMS, SCHEMES, IN 1,2,3 YEARS, AND WINT HAVE TO SHET RUN FOR HIS LIFE ON EVERY SHET PLAY, THANKS TO THE SHET O LINE

Instead Guarantano has good coaches, a NFL O Line a 1st round draft pick OL Abe Lucas, a NFL RB, a NFL WR, and has, is in a good Run and Shoot system, scheme.

The coaches, support, system, players, will give Guarantano all the tools, everything that he needs to succeed, something he never had while at Tennessee.

 

[mikalalas]

I watched JG for four years and the guy is a great kid but maddeningly inconsistent. If he makes one mistake, he will make four or five as he cannot snap and clear.
He is not what I call a playmaker and was always,always,always on the verge of losing the job. He CAN make all the throws. He is not a statue and has decent mobility. His problem is HOLDING the ball too long, throwing late, and not processing information fast enough but he will have games of throwing 300 yards and looking competent. Then he will absolutely IMPLODE and turn it over five or six times.
I want him to do well at Washington ST because he is a great kid. I hope the lightbulb comes on for him.

And again he Guarantano made the Top 10 statistically Top 10 passing list of passers in all of Tennessee history, and had pretty good company with Peyton Manning also on that list.

 

[triscuit one]

He will do good at WSU because at WSU he will not does not have SHET COACHES, SHET SYSTEM, SHET TEAM, SHET O LINE, SHET PLAYERS, 3,4,5 SHET COACHES IN 1,2,3 YEARS, 5 SHET SYSTEMS, SCHEMES, IN 1,2,3 YEARS, AND WINT HAVE TO SHET RUN FOR HIS LIFE ON EVERY SHET PLAY, THANKS TO THE SHET O LINE

Instead Guarantano has good coaches, a NFL O Line a 1st round draft pick OL Abe Lucas, a NFL RB, a NFL WR, and has, is in a good Run and Shoot system, scheme.

The coaches, support, system, players, will give Guarantano all the tools, everything that he needs to succeed, something he never had while at Tennessee.

I know this post is in vain....but where do you get your information? Pruitt failed as a head coach, but we have no idea how good Rolo is so how can you say, with certainty that Guarantano will get better coaching? And I am saying this as someone who is bullish on Rolo.

Tennessee didn't have a lack a talent which lead to Guarantano's demise. For much of his career he threw to Jennings a 7th round pick in 2020 and Palmer a 3rd round pick in 2021 and had Smith a 6th round pick in 2021 blocking for at guard him and last year he also had Georgia transfer Cade Mays who is a pre-season all SEC 1st teamer who has 1st round pick talent and come in on Mel Kippers big board as the number 6 guard (for whatever that's worth). Not saying Tennessee had great SEC talent, but were talented.

I did not watch a lot of Tennessee with Guarantano at QB, but I can understand why Volunteer fans were ready for him to leave. He could look good for a series and then make a bone head play, like throwing into coverage, totally missing a wide open receiver or deciding to alter a play at the line of scrimmage. Most if any were not on the coaches.

Don't want to cast shade on the guy as I hear he is a great person and works hard. I was happy and excited that the guy choose to come to WSU and I hope he does well here. But please stop with the ESPN stats, top 10 Vols passing leader stuff and actually watch him play. Maybe not the 2019 Bama game unless you want to feel the Vols pain.

 

[Coug90]

I watched JG for four years and the guy is a great kid but maddeningly inconsistent. If he makes one mistake, he will make four or five as he cannot snap and clear.
He is not what I call a playmaker and was always,always,always on the verge of losing the job. He CAN make all the throws. He is not a statue and has decent mobility. His problem is HOLDING the ball too long, throwing late, and not processing information fast enough but he will have games of throwing 300 yards and looking competent. Then he will absolutely IMPLODE and turn it over five or six times.
I want him to do well at Washington ST because he is a great kid. I hope the lightbulb comes on for him.

Sounds a lot like Luke Falk. He was maddening at times too but won a lot of games.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Sounds a lot like Luke Falk. He was maddening at times too but won a lot of games.

Falks wins 10 more games over his career if he throws the ball away instead of taking those maddening, drive ending sacks.

 

[triscuit one]

Sounds a lot like Luke Falk. He was maddening at times too but won a lot of games.

More like Luke Falk had a baby with Connor Halliday

 

[CougPatrol]

Barring injury or suspension, JDL is our starting QB in week 1.

That's not my opinion either.

 

[Coug90]

Falks wins 10 more games over his career if he throws the ball away instead of taking those maddening, drive ending sacks.

15 if he checks to the run with 3 in the box

 

[mikalalas]

Barring injury or suspension, JDL is our starting QB in week 1.

That's not my opinion either.

Yes it is your opinion, and Theo's opinion.

Also DGibbons says he is injured wearing a brace.

Now maybe he could be the starter, without that injury, brace.

Next JDL is not ready to start, nothing in last season, spring ball, fall camp, etc, has showef he is ready to start.

If Rolo does start JDL itvwould be because either the QB position is pathetic, and JDL again is the best of all the bad options, OR because Rolo making a BAD decision.

Also Nowhere in any of Rolo's and other players post practice, post scrimmage comments has Rolo, other, players given any sign, hint, clue, etc, that JDL winning the starting QB job, unless that was done a few seconds ago recently.

And even if JDL were to be the starting QB, he is only going to win about 2,3,4,5, 6 games as a range.

If Rolo does start JDL then Rolo doesnt care about winning NOW, an or wrongly thinks can win now with JDL, an or thinks that if he starts JDL now, that he has more upside potential, and that even if have losing season with JDL this season, that can coach him up, develop him into a awesome season next season with JDL.

In other words like Price was in his early HC years at WSU of 2,3,4 BAD 2,3,4 and 8,9 losses, years of developing a JDL type, to get 1 AWESOME YEAR, RINSE WASH REPEAT, instead of a WIN NOW, with a Gubrud. Guarantano, Cooper type, win 6,7,8,9 win each year, every other year approach

Maybe Rolo is not aware that he has to win 6,7,8,9 wins NOW this season or he is either ON HOT SEAT, OR FIRED, if he starts JDL over Cooper or Guarantano.

Just not buying what your saying, and wont until, unless Rolo actually makes JDL the starting QB.

 

[CougPatrol]

Why do you keep mentioning Cooper? He’a done nothing since arriving in Pullman. He practices poorly. Scrimmages poorly, and hasn’t been able to crack the 2-deep since entering the program.

Fast forward to this week, and with the team in full pads and back in Martin Stadium, he’s put up consecutive clunker practices.

I feel bad for picking on the kid, but he’s been in the program for years and hasn’t had a single wow moment. Not one.

 

[mikalalas]

Why do you keep mentioning Cooper? He’a done nothing since arriving in Pullman. He practices poorly. Scrimmages poorly, and hasn’t been able to crack the 2-deep since entering the program.

Fast forward to this week, and with the team in full pads and back in Martin Stadium, he’s put up consecutive clunker practices.

I feel bad for picking on the kid, but he’s been in the program for years and hasn’t had a single wow moment. Not one.

Well you might think that. But Cooper's 6 out of 7 and 1,2 TD performance in the scrimmage, compared to JDL's 5 out of 7, nothing performance.

And Rolo said that Cooper was just barely ahead

Also Cooper and Guarantano were doing better then JDL in the King of the Hill competition.

What that is that a QB takes a snap, if he does good, he gets another snap, if not he is knocked off the Hill, and a different QB follows that. Cooper and Guarantano stayed on the hill the longest, had thr longest King of the Hill runs, had more snaps.

And speaking of Snaps, Reps, Cooper, Guarantano have been getting more reps, snaps, then JDL, Gabalis.

Yeah Cooper has been in the program for a while. Also it took Gordon how long to develop, win the starting job? 5 years, it took him, and didnt become the staryer until his 5th year senior year, season, at WSU.

And during spring ball first scrimmage, Cooper put up about 100 yards, 1,2 TD's, Guarantano WAS PERFECT, 8 OF 8, 117 YARDS, 1,2 TD's, no ints, etc, and JDL did nothing, crap.

And last year the only reason why JDL was the starter was because Rolo probably did a HAT DANCE to pick him, and other then Ore St, etc, he wasnt good, did semi bad, etc.

Like I said Cooper is just barely ahead of everyone for now. Guarantano is either tied for 1stvat best, 2nd at average, tied for 3rd at worst. JDL is tied fir 2nd at best, 3rd at average, 4th at worst.

And Gabalis is tied for 3rd at best, 4th at worst.

Guarantano will putbup about 6,7,8,9 wins. Cooper about 5,6,7,8 wins, JDL about 3,4,5,6 wins, and Gabalis about 2,3,4,5 wins

And the reason why Guarantano got 14 pass attempts, more reps, more snaps, then the other QB's better QB's get more pass attempts, more Snaps, more reps, then not as good QB's.

And the only reason Guarantano had only 4,5 out of 14 in last fall scrimmage was because Rolo put in Back Up WR's who SHETTED THE BED, DROPPED GUARANTANO'S EASILY CATCHABLE PASSES, and Rolo was PISSED AT THE WR'S, AND BLAMED THEM, AND DID NOT BLAME GUARANTANO FOR THAT

To be fair tho, for the FIRST AND ONLY TIME, ROLO FINALLY DIDVA SHOUTVOUTVTO JDL(Cooper and Guarantano have had a lot of good shout outs from Rolo, and until now JDL has had no positive shout outs, until just now.

And for the first time JDL started first at, on King of the Hill, and didnt stay as long on the Hill as Cooper, Guarantano have stayed on the hill.

Also there is JDL's such rediculous Ichiro like wind up throwing motion. That wont be allowed to start at QB again

If JDL starts(He wont(But if he does it will be about a 3,4,5 win season, and a losing season, and Rolo gets fired.

 

[FnuLnu]

And again he Guarantano made the Top 10 statistically Top 10 passing list of passers in all of Tennessee history, and had pretty good company with Peyton Manning also on that list.

Since Tennessee discovered the forward pass about 20 years after WSU did, the career passing list for Tennessee QBs after T Martin, Peyton and Heather Schuler isn't that impressive.

 

[spongeandshoot]

Falks wins 10 more games over his career if he throws the ball away instead of taking those maddening, drive ending sacks.

I always liked in when Connor Haliday would run out of bounds for a 3 yard loss while scrambling to his right.

 

[Beattie JR]

I know this post is in vain....but where do you get your information? Pruitt failed as a head coach, but we have no idea how good Rolo is so how can you say, with certainty that Guarantano will get better coaching? And I am saying this as someone who is bullish on Rolo.

Tennessee didn't have a lack a talent which lead to Guarantano's demise. For much of his career he threw to Jennings a 7th round pick in 2020 and Palmer a 3rd round pick in 2021 and had Smith a 6th round pick in 2021 blocking for at guard him and last year he also had Georgia transfer Cade Mays who is a pre-season all SEC 1st teamer who has 1st round pick talent and come in on Mel Kippers big board as the number 6 guard (for whatever that's worth). Not saying Tennessee had great SEC talent, but were talented.

I did not watch a lot of Tennessee with Guarantano at QB, but I can understand why Volunteer fans were ready for him to leave. He could look good for a series and then make a bone head play, like throwing into coverage, totally missing a wide open receiver or deciding to alter a play at the line of scrimmage. Most if any were not on the coaches.

Don't want to cast shade on the guy as I hear he is a great person and works hard. I was happy and excited that the guy choose to come to WSU and I hope he does well here. But please stop with the ESPN stats, top 10 Vols passing leader stuff and actually watch him play. Maybe not the 2019 Bama game unless you want to feel the Vols pain.

You forgot about Calloway at WR who will be New Orleans #2 receiver. JG had a lot of NFL talent at his disposal.

 

[Beattie JR]

I know this post is in vain....but where do you get your information? Pruitt failed as a head coach, but we have no idea how good Rolo is so how can you say, with certainty that Guarantano will get better coaching? And I am saying this as someone who is bullish on Rolo.

Tennessee didn't have a lack a talent which lead to Guarantano's demise. For much of his career he threw to Jennings a 7th round pick in 2020 and Palmer a 3rd round pick in 2021 and had Smith a 6th round pick in 2021 blocking for at guard him and last year he also had Georgia transfer Cade Mays who is a pre-season all SEC 1st teamer who has 1st round pick talent and come in on Mel Kippers big board as the number 6 guard (for whatever that's worth). Not saying Tennessee had great SEC talent, but were talented.

I did not watch a lot of Tennessee with Guarantano at QB, but I can understand why Volunteer fans were ready for him to leave. He could look good for a series and then make a bone head play, like throwing into coverage, totally missing a wide open receiver or deciding to alter a play at the line of scrimmage. Most if any were not on the coaches.

Don't want to cast shade on the guy as I hear he is a great person and works hard. I was happy and excited that the guy choose to come to WSU and I hope he does well here. But please stop with the ESPN stats, top 10 Vols passing leader stuff and actually watch him play. Maybe not the 2019 Bama game unless you want to feel the Vols pain.

JG was THE WORST three year starting qb in the history of the school.

 

[BiggsCoug]

JG was THE WORST three year starting qb in the history of the school.

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I do not believe he was coached worth a damn. I think the scheme he played in was total crap. There are plenty of bone headed plays for sure. Im not absolving him of everything that went wrong. However, UT is a mess. Coaching turnover, poor coaching, all of that shows up in the play of the most high profile position.

This kid needs a coach that can teach a strong scheme, can teach him reads, put him in a position to make easy pitch and catch throws and TEACH him in film and chalk board what he is looking at. Is Rolo that guy??? We will see.

 

[Beattie JR]

I do not believe he was coached worth a damn. I think the scheme he played in was total crap. There are plenty of bone headed plays for sure. Im not absolving him of everything that went wrong. However, UT is a mess. Coaching turnover, poor coaching, all of that shows up in the play of the most high profile position.

This kid needs a coach that can teach a strong scheme, can teach him reads, put him in a position to make easy pitch and catch throws and TEACH him in film and chalk board what he is looking at. Is Rolo that guy??? We will see.

a lot of what you say is the truth. im pulling for JG

 

[Coug90]

I do not believe he was coached worth a damn. I think the scheme he played in was total crap. There are plenty of bone headed plays for sure. Im not absolving him of everything that went wrong. However, UT is a mess. Coaching turnover, poor coaching, all of that shows up in the play of the most high profile position.

This kid needs a coach that can teach a strong scheme, can teach him reads, put him in a position to make easy pitch and catch throws and TEACH him in film and chalk board what he is looking at. Is Rolo that guy??? We will see.

Who knows. Minshew was crap before he got lined up with the right situation for him at WSU. Success or failure at the QB position is so much about fit, coaching, scheme, surrounding talent, etc. All of that stuff impacts the mental part of the game. Physical tools are like 5th or 6th down the list.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Who knows. Minshew was crap before he got lined up with the right situation for him at WSU. Success or failure at the QB position is so much about fit, coaching, scheme, surrounding talent, etc. All of that stuff impacts the mental part of the game. Physical tools are like 5th or 6th down the list.

As a qb you have to be in a scheme that fits what you do well. I dont believe that was UT. He prob had 3 diff OCs while he was there. Now he is on his 4th scheme at WSU.

I watched his HS senior year highlights. He is a running qb. Put him in the pistol and he does well. Ask him to throw the ball 40+ times and you’d have better coached him up.

 

[cr8zyncalif]

As a qb you have to be in a scheme that fits what you do well. I dont believe that was UT. He prob had 3 diff OCs while he was there. Now he is on his 4th scheme at WSU.

I watched his HS senior year highlights. He is a running qb. Put him in the pistol and he does well. Ask him to throw the ball 40+ times and you’d have better coached him up.

I suspect that even if the "Tennessee Turnstile" of OC's did not coach him up a ton, he probably learned a lot himself via the school of hard knocks. How much? I don't know. And how will Rolo do at taking a kid with that sort of background and getting him up to speed, in a conference where pass defense is the priority for most teams? Again, I don't know. But I am sure interested in finding out the answer!!

 

[mikalalas]

Well you might think that. But Cooper's 6 out of 7 and 1,2 TD performance in the scrimmage, compared to JDL's 5 out of 7, nothing performance.

And Rolo said that Cooper was just barely ahead

Also Cooper and Guarantano were doing better then JDL in the King of the Hill competition.

What that is that a QB takes a snap, if he does good, he gets another snap, if not he is knocked off the Hill, and a different QB follows that. Cooper and Guarantano stayed on the hill the longest, had thr longest King of the Hill runs, had more snaps.

And speaking of Snaps, Reps, Cooper, Guarantano have been getting more reps, snaps, then JDL, Gabalis.

Yeah Cooper has been in the program for a while. Also it took Gordon how long to develop, win the starting job? 5 years, it took him, and didnt become the staryer until his 5th year senior year, season, at WSU.

And during spring ball first scrimmage, Cooper put up about 100 yards, 1,2 TD's, Guarantano WAS PERFECT, 8 OF 8, 117 YARDS, 1,2 TD's, no ints, etc, and JDL did nothing, crap.

And last year the only reason why JDL was the starter was because Rolo probably did a HAT DANCE to pick him, and other then Ore St, etc, he wasnt good, did semi bad, etc.

Like I said Cooper is just barely ahead of everyone for now. Guarantano is either tied for 1stvat best, 2nd at average, tied for 3rd at worst. JDL is tied fir 2nd at best, 3rd at average, 4th at worst.

And Gabalis is tied for 3rd at best, 4th at worst.

Guarantano will putbup about 6,7,8,9 wins. Cooper about 5,6,7,8 wins, JDL about 3,4,5,6 wins, and Gabalis about 2,3,4,5 wins

And the reason why Guarantano got 14 pass attempts, more reps, more snaps, then the other QB's better QB's get more pass attempts, more Snaps, more reps, then not as good QB's.

And the only reason Guarantano had only 4,5 out of 14 in last fall scrimmage was because Rolo put in Back Up WR's who SHETTED THE BED, DROPPED GUARANTANO'S EASILY CATCHABLE PASSES, and Rolo was PISSED AT THE WR'S, AND BLAMED THEM, AND DID NOT BLAME GUARANTANO FOR THAT

To be fair tho, for the FIRST AND ONLY TIME, ROLO FINALLY DIDVA SHOUTVOUTVTO JDL(Cooper and Guarantano have had a lot of good shout outs from Rolo, and until now JDL has had no positive shout outs, until just now.

And for the first time JDL started first at, on King of the Hill, and didnt stay as long on the Hill as Cooper, Guarantano have stayed on the hill.

Also there is JDL's such rediculous Ichiro like wind up throwing motion. That wont be allowed to start at QB again

If JDL starts(He wont(But if he does it will be about a 3,4,5 win season, and a losing season, and Rolo gets fired.

JG was THE WORST three year starting qb in the history of the school.

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Your exaggerating. Your view is kinda like the view that some here had of Brink, Connor Halliday.

There was some who wrongly thought Connor was worst ever. But he wasn't. In fact STATISTICALLY, except for INT's, Connor Halliday, was one of the better, best QB's in WSU history, just like Guarantano was to Tennessee, in him making Tennessee's STATISTICAL TOP 10 PASSING LIST and having company with Peyton Manning on that list.

Connor, altho he was statistically awesome, would drive you MAD with his INT's, INCONSISTENCY, Shooting himself in foot, etc.

Now part of the reason why Connor was like that, is because before Leach came, Connor was on the worst team in WSU history. SHET TEAM, SHET PLAYERS, SHET O LINE, SHET WR's, SHET PAUL WULF, SHET SYSTEM, SHET SCHEME, SHET COACHING, JUST LIKE GUARANTANO's situation, but not as bad.

Now some like ED here would do, say as you do, and say, but that PAUL WULF team had 4 Star WR Wilson who went to NFL, and Travis Long, and CJ Mizell, and Forbes, NFL OL, LB, DE, etc. That team did have some good players. BUT SOME TO MOST WERE SHET.

What I said about Tennessee, I didn't make it up, pull it out of my butt. I read various internet news stories, about Guarantano, and his situation at Tennessee. And they said that except for(kinda like the Paul WULF team, situation, there were some NFL Wilson's, but MOST SUCKED), a NFL WR, and a NFL offensive Lineman, MOST of the team sucked, had sucky system, sucky scheme, sucky coaching, and that Guarantano had had 3,4 BAD coaches, coaching in 1,2,3,4 years, and 3,4 BAD systems, schemes, in 1,2,3,4, and that by time that at WSU, that he is on his 4th, 5th, coach, and on his 5th system, scheme.

Whether your Connor Halliday, or Guarantano, in a bad situation, MESS, DUMPSTER FIRE, ETC, tho you may set the world on fire with your awesome stats, your not going to be consistent, you will be inconsistent, you will do things that drive your fan base mad, and you will absolutely struggle to win games. But that doesn't mean that they are bad, one of the worst.

Bad, worst ever QB's don't end up on TOP 10 BEST STATS QB LIST AND SHARE COMPANY WITH PEYTON MANNING, DREW BLEDSOE, etc, on those list.

Now when Connor Halliday got a good coach like Mike Leach, and good players, during Mike Leach's 2nd Year, the Connor Halliday led WSU to 6 wins a BOWL game, that was a refreshing miracle considering the DUMPSTER FIRE WSU was because of Connor Halliday's previous coach, PAUL WULF.

Tennessee was a DUMPSTER FIRE MESS, just like the WSU PAUL WULF DUMPSTER fire, and Guarantano was, is just like Connor Halliday in that kind of Dumpster fire mess.

And just like Mike Leach RESCUED Connor Halliday from that MESS, Rolo, WSU has RESCUED Guarantano from the TENNESSEE MESS.

Guarantano has not just 1 NFL WR, he has 4,5 NFL quality WR's. He doesnt just have 1 NFL RB, he has 2,3 NFL quality RB's. He doesn't just have 1 NFL 1st rounder OL Abe Lucas, He has 5,6,7 NFL quality OL.

That's something Connor never had under WULF, and something Guarantano didn't have at Tennessee.

And it's not just the Talent, it's a good Run and Shoot system, scheme, and Rolo ran that scheme well at Mountain West conference Hawaii that beat 1,2 Pac 12 colleges, and went 10-5, won a good bowl game against a good P5 opponent.

It's like what Biggs correctly said.

Guarantano is good. He can make all the throws, he did have NFL scouts interested in him. He did put up AWESOME STATS, HE DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE.

All he needs is a chance, in a GOOD SITUATION, like he now has at WSU now,

If he is in a GOOD SITUATION like he is in at WSU he will win about 6,7,8,9 games, be consistent, do good

If he is in a TENNESSEE DUMPSTER FIRE he will put up SUCH AWESOME STATS, but be inconsistent, lose games

And since he is like Connor Halliday. That's good, as Connor Halliday, would win about 6,7,8,9 games this season.

 

[WASH ST A&M FAN]

Imagine going to another teams Message
Board to trash your former 3-yr starter who’s now across the country playing in another conference.

Imagine if your 3-yr starter in the mighty SEC can’t beat out a 2nd yr QB that should be red-shirted to develop his mechanics & Football IQ or a kid that hasn’t moved past 3rd string most of his 3-yr college career.

Just Imagine……….

 

[Beattie JR]

JG was THE WORST three year starting qb in the history of the school.

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poor guy...hate it for him but UT fans were so glad he left. Worst three year starter in school history