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King Larry Scott

John Canzano published another piece regarding Larry Scott. This time regarding his ultra luxurious accommodations in Vegas this week for the Pac 12 basketball tournament.

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2...erences-imperial-palace-lacks-visibility.html

You either fire him or you are complicit. What else do presidents need to see???

Thanks kids! This $7,500 per night suite was awesome!!!

When do the athletes take notice and stop playing??? Everyone around them is cashing checks creating generational wealth for their families. On the work the kids do. Amazing.
 
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Rather learn why UW not involved in admissions fraud case.

Stanford, USC, and UCLA implicated.

Because the UW is not that hard to get into?
 
I was prepared to pile onto Larrogant Scott until I read this:
Canzano said:
Scott’s suite this week is a “comp," per a representative of the hotel.

It’s part of the conference’s compensation package in bringing the basketball event to the Strip, also in booking meeting rooms and hotel rooms.
I want to see Larry Scott out on the curb, but it is really dishonest reporting by Canzano to open up with incredible descriptions of Larry's palacial accommodations, bury the fact that it cost nothing in a small chunk of text, and then continue on with the article. Agree that it's bad optics but the guy is not Saddam Hussein, he's just an incompetent schlub.
 
I was prepared to pile onto Larrogant Scott until I read this:

I want to see Larry Scott out on the curb, but it is really dishonest reporting by Canzano to open up with incredible descriptions of Larry's palacial accommodations, bury the fact that it cost nothing in a small chunk of text, and then continue on with the article. Agree that it's bad optics but the guy is not Saddam Hussein, he's just an incompetent schlub.

I completely disagree, and in fact I think it being "comp'ed" makes it worse. It's part of the package, and as such doesn't come without a cost.

AND, the fact that it is a perk for Scott personally for bringing the tourney to Vegas smells even worse. "Oh here is the deal, and if you sign for the league then YOU get this perk all for yourself."
 
Larry really ought to come up with a plausible reason to blow that much cash. Whining and dining sponsors or something. Or maybe even announce that he’s made some payments on his relocation loan or something.
 
I was prepared to pile onto Larrogant Scott until I read this:

I want to see Larry Scott out on the curb, but it is really dishonest reporting by Canzano to open up with incredible descriptions of Larry's palacial accommodations, bury the fact that it cost nothing in a small chunk of text, and then continue on with the article. Agree that it's bad optics but the guy is not Saddam Hussein, he's just an incompetent schlub.

They “comp” you in Vegas when you drop a ton of cash. It wasn’t free.
 
They “comp” you in Vegas when you drop a ton of cash. It wasn’t free.
Scott deserves his "excellent elegance" this time.

LA sucked for the Pac12 tourney.

For Scott, this is akin to Wulff's 2010 win over Oregon State.
 
The Pac-12 can hire an firm to handle any media negotiations and strategy. It's not like Larry's presence is going to make or break the negotiations.
 
I completely disagree, and in fact I think it being "comp'ed" makes it worse. It's part of the package, and as such doesn't come without a cost.

AND, the fact that it is a perk for Scott personally for bringing the tourney to Vegas smells even worse. "Oh here is the deal, and if you sign for the league then YOU get this perk all for yourself."
Vegas doesn't give anything away for free. He gets this suite because he's dropped more money there than the suite is worth.

And, even if it is comped, it is part of the conference's package - not his. He should be sharing his champagne and strawberries with the Presidents, the AD's, TV and bowl execs, advertisers, etc. It should be his conference center and war room, not his private tub.
 
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I disagree with the thoughts of most on the "comp" angle, at least until we know more about how and why it was comped. I've seen a lot of comments online implying that he should have insisted on better pricing instead of the comp or something like that. Perhaps that would have been possible, but I really doubt that's how this worked. More likely is the deal was negotiated a long time ago, likely without him having anything more than superficial involvement, and he didn't even know it was comped. Then, at some point, they're handling his arrangements and someone notes that they comped a suite, so who's it going to go to? Would you want to be the travel arranger or whoever who gives it to some lower executive and not (King) Larry? I wouldn't. So the underlings handle this stuff, someone tells him he's going to the suite, and he doesn't think more about it.

Some are saying he should refuse it to try to get better pricing or something. Again, I just don't think that's how it works. Just take a step back and think about it. The deal's done and has been for a long time. He can refuse the suite but it won't get a better deal for the conference.

Now, of course, maybe he (or someone at his explicit or implicit direction) actually negotiated for this as part of the deal and it really was in lieu of the conference getting a better deal. If so, he's an even bigger douche than I had thought. I doubt that's the case, though, as much as I think he's terrible and needs to go for various other transgressions.
 
I disagree with the thoughts of most on the "comp" angle, at least until we know more about how and why it was comped. I've seen a lot of comments online implying that he should have insisted on better pricing instead of the comp or something like that. Perhaps that would have been possible, but I really doubt that's how this worked. More likely is the deal was negotiated a long time ago, likely without him having anything more than superficial involvement, and he didn't even know it was comped. Then, at some point, they're handling his arrangements and someone notes that they comped a suite, so who's it going to go to? Would you want to be the travel arranger or whoever who gives it to some lower executive and not (King) Larry? I wouldn't. So the underlings handle this stuff, someone tells him he's going to the suite, and he doesn't think more about it.

Some are saying he should refuse it to try to get better pricing or something. Again, I just don't think that's how it works. Just take a step back and think about it. The deal's done and has been for a long time. He can refuse the suite but it won't get a better deal for the conference.

Now, of course, maybe he (or someone at his explicit or implicit direction) actually negotiated for this as part of the deal and it really was in lieu of the conference getting a better deal. If so, he's an even bigger douche than I had thought. I doubt that's the case, though, as much as I think he's terrible and needs to go for various other transgressions.

Gee Woody Dixon, thanks for your opinion. Are you the one in Larry's 2nd bedroom in the suite? Got an instant replay feed in there with a hotline to the refs?

And seriously, are you serious? Some underling is responsible for all this?
"I was born in the dark but it wasn't last night" - Doug Stone
 
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I disagree with the thoughts of most on the "comp" angle, at least until we know more about how and why it was comped. I've seen a lot of comments online implying that he should have insisted on better pricing instead of the comp or something like that. Perhaps that would have been possible, but I really doubt that's how this worked. More likely is the deal was negotiated a long time ago, likely without him having anything more than superficial involvement, and he didn't even know it was comped. Then, at some point, they're handling his arrangements and someone notes that they comped a suite, so who's it going to go to? Would you want to be the travel arranger or whoever who gives it to some lower executive and not (King) Larry? I wouldn't. So the underlings handle this stuff, someone tells him he's going to the suite, and he doesn't think more about it.

Some are saying he should refuse it to try to get better pricing or something. Again, I just don't think that's how it works. Just take a step back and think about it. The deal's done and has been for a long time. He can refuse the suite but it won't get a better deal for the conference.

Now, of course, maybe he (or someone at his explicit or implicit direction) actually negotiated for this as part of the deal and it really was in lieu of the conference getting a better deal. If so, he's an even bigger douche than I had thought. I doubt that's the case, though, as much as I think he's terrible and needs to go for various other transgressions.
You really think "Limo Larry" was in the dark on the suite?
 
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You gotta have standards to begin with in order to lower them for jocks.
I actually expect that most schools caught up in this will be private. Partly prestige, partly being a bit less fussy about where funds come from (less visibility). UCLA makes some sense because it's kind of a Hollywood school, like SC. Stanford is also a natural, like the Ivies, and probably Duke, Wake, Northwestern and U of Chicago, Vandy, maybe Tulane and the Patriot League schools
 
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You guys are funny. Yeah, I am quite confident that the scenario I gave is much closer to the truth than a situation in which Larry was in there bargaining for the suite as part of the negotiation over the hotel for housing people in connection with the tournament. He probably wasn't even involved in any material way, and the comped suite was probably one line in Exhibit A-3 to the definitive agreement or something along those lines. He could still be responsible for setting up the culture that led to "underlings" -- I thought you'd get the humor with me using such a term in a King Larry thread, but I guess not -- being sure to nab the suite for him, but a lot of the scenarios and proffered courses of action here are ridiculous. I have been and am one of the biggest critics of King Larry, and he's responsible for a ton of ridiculous costs for his jet travel, lavish accommodations, etc., as well as for the conference generally (e.g., their preposterous office space). He's stiffing the conference on his loan for housing, his comp is out of line, and he's a tyrant. The guy is a monster. I'm just speaking to this BS with the suite.
 
You guys are funny. Yeah, I am quite confident that the scenario I gave is much closer to the truth than a situation in which Larry was in there bargaining for the suite as part of the negotiation over the hotel for housing people in connection with the tournament. He probably wasn't even involved in any material way, and the comped suite was probably one line in Exhibit A-3 to the definitive agreement or something along those lines. He could still be responsible for setting up the culture that led to "underlings" -- I thought you'd get the humor with me using such a term in a King Larry thread, but I guess not -- being sure to nab the suite for him, but a lot of the scenarios and proffered courses of action here are ridiculous. I have been and am one of the biggest critics of King Larry, and he's responsible for a ton of ridiculous costs for his jet travel, lavish accommodations, etc., as well as for the conference generally (e.g., their preposterous office space). He's stiffing the conference on his loan for housing, his comp is out of line, and he's a tyrant. The guy is a monster. I'm just speaking to this BS with the suite.
Yup. I'm going to agree. His comp'ed hotel room (yea, suite with all the amenities you can imagine but still... a hotel room) was not something he personally negotiated. Like 425 states, he might have created a culture where you don't hold make and pull all stops when it comes to having/getting the best of the best in anything/everything. But he personally didn't have a hand in this... Just can't see it. As sh!tty of a conference leader as he is.
 
You guys are funny. Yeah, I am quite confident that the scenario I gave is much closer to the truth than a situation in which Larry was in there bargaining for the suite as part of the negotiation over the hotel for housing people in connection with the tournament. He probably wasn't even involved in any material way, and the comped suite was probably one line in Exhibit A-3 to the definitive agreement or something along those lines. He could still be responsible for setting up the culture that led to "underlings" -- I thought you'd get the humor with me using such a term in a King Larry thread, but I guess not -- being sure to nab the suite for him, but a lot of the scenarios and proffered courses of action here are ridiculous. I have been and am one of the biggest critics of King Larry, and he's responsible for a ton of ridiculous costs for his jet travel, lavish accommodations, etc., as well as for the conference generally (e.g., their preposterous office space). He's stiffing the conference on his loan for housing, his comp is out of line, and he's a tyrant. The guy is a monster. I'm just speaking to this BS with the suite.

It would be interesting to find out what his accommodations were like last year. Or every year for that matter. That might help assess his involvement. And I agree that he probably wasn't literally at the table redlining the contract. But I am confident that "really fancy digs for Larry" were a known component of the negotiation.
 
What was the Larry Scott-driven tourney expenditure that the other conferences didn't make?

Having 12 teams of basketball players, coaches, staff, and some family members (I assume the coaches families get to go), and the Pac-12 TV crews and staffers staying at MGM resorts, eating at MGM resorts, and being transported to and from MGM resorts for the better part of a week. Figure 400+ people.

It's likely a part of package. But it's still a bad look for Scott. Some of the punches in Canzano's hit piece article were below the belt, but some were not. Like I said above, at least come up with a plausible reason why Scott is getting the presidential suite while the peons get run of the mill rooms- like wining and dining that $500 million mythical investor.
 
Makes me want to fly to Vegas and confront this jack-ass
While he has one of the more punchable faces I’ve ever seen you’d never get near him. That much dough pays for a lot of security.

Not sure how you get to the presidents that like him. Kirk seems to be on board in wanting change without saying as much.

The ultra wealthy scratching each other on the back with little regard for performance, morality, etc.
 
It's likely a part of package. But it's still a bad look for Scott. Some of the punches in Canzano's hit piece article were below the belt, but some were not. Like I said above, at least come up with a plausible reason why Scott is getting the presidential suite while the peons get run of the mill rooms- like wining and dining that $500 million mythical investor.

As it pertains to Larry Scott, I wouldn't care if he used his sack as a speed bag. Dude deserves everything thrown his way.
 
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