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Looks like Mateer hits the portal

@425, don't know if you saw it or not, but there was an interesting thread on Brand X where several posters said the collective is making a big fundraising push to keep John Mateer and they feel like he really would prefer to remain at WSU

Already John Mateer gets 333k from Northern Quest, with a option to get about 500k from Northern Quest this next coming season, according to the Couch, GM show.

In addition to that, Mateer probably gets about 165k more from the collective on top of what he gets, would, will get from Northern Quest.

That would be about 700k plus another truck, that Mateer would get.

If that's not enough, and another college offers Mateer 1.67 million, then the WSU collective fundraising for Mateer wouldn't be enough IF 700k is not enough for Mateer.

All the 175k to 333k more that the collective would fundraise would be feel good, rah rah rah stuff before and after Mateer left if 700k not enough to keep Mateer, as 175k to 333k more added to 700k won't keep Mateer if 700k not enough to keep Mateer.

If Mateer stays it will be because he is already getting, going to get about 700k.

The extra 175k to 333k added to the 700k from the collective fundraiser would just be a bonus.
 
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If Mateer and and Parker and 1 WR leave, then still have Zevi Eckhaus as a 5th,6th year senior, that took his redshirt year this season, because didn't burn that redshirt, because didn't play in any games.

And Zevi with 1 more year under his belt from when he transfered to WSU, will know the offense that much better, and will thus probably be better, and may be better, may become better then Mateer.

Interesting info, Mik. Thanks.

Wonder if CJD would be fine with plugging Zevi at QB and re-directing Mateer's NIL dollars to seveal key acquisitions from the portal?



As long as most to almost all players stay, and as long as Dickert gets about 2,3,4,5 key transfer portal replacements, the team will probably be even better then Mateer's team, or at least as good as Mateer's team, or at worst, almost as good as Mateer's team, and will probably finish 7-5,8-4 at worst, 9-3,10-2 at average, 11-1 at high, 12-0 at best.

An 11-1 or 12-0 regular season and Zevi probably ends up on some Heisman lists
 
Interesting info, Mik. Thanks.

Wonder if CJD would be fine with plugging Zevi at QB and re-directing Mateer's NIL dollars to seveal key acquisitions from the portal?





An 11-1 or 12-0 regular season and Zevi probably ends up on some Heisman lists
Zevi for heisman? This post takes the all time internet prize
 
Already John Mateer gets 333k from Northern Quest, with a option to get about 500k from Northern Quest this next coming season, according to the Couch, GM show.

In addition to that, Mateer probably gets about 165k more from the collective on top of what he gets, would, will get from Northern Quest.

That would be about 700k plus another truck, that Mateer would get.

If that's not enough, and another college offers Mateer 1.67 million, then the WSU collective fundraising for Mateer wouldn't be enough IF 700k is not enough for Mateer.

All the 175k to 333k more that the collective would fundraise would be feel good, rah rah rah stuff before and after Mateer left if 700k not enough to keep Mateer, as 175k to 333k more added to 700k won't keep Mateer if 700k not enough to keep Mateer.

If Mateer stays it will be because he is already getting, going to get about 700k.

The extra 175k to 333k added to the 700k from the collective fundraiser would just be a bonus.
Mateer is never getting $500k from Northern Quest.

Timme got big jack from them but he was a once in a lifetime marketing bonanza and personality. Their entire marketing campaign that year was built on him.

Mateer doesn’t have that pull. Not even close. Minshew might have been able to pull it off.
 
Zevi for heisman? This post takes the all time internet prize
You don't think Zevi will get some mention if, as Mik suggests, predicts, envisions, he plays "better than Mateer" and WSU is "11-1 at high, 12-0 at best" next season?
 
People kicked and screamed about Cam Ward leaving, and he earned his degree from WSU. If Mateer leaves, he can pound sand, and so can everyone who gives him a hall pass.
There’s a saying something to the effect of “don’t hate the player hate the game”.

These coaches can bounce any time someone throws a little extra money at them and pays their buyout. They’ve now given players the same freedom…probably more.

This is an NCAA problem, I can’t blame a kid for cashing a lottery ticket and I can’t waste my energy being mad at some kid for doing so. You don’t like it, tune out NCAA football, the playoffs and all.
 
People kicked and screamed about Cam Ward leaving, and he earned his degree from WSU. If Mateer leaves, he can pound sand, and so can everyone who gives him a hall pass.
I will bitch about both... any... and all who bail on WSU
 
Couple of articles about possible landing places for Mateer. I'm cautiously optimistic about him staying put for 2025. Oklahoma seems like the most obvious destination, but there are reasons for him to stay another year. Say we have a $500,000 offer for him to stay. Someone else offers $1 million. OK, is it a team from an income tax state? There goes a chunk. Is it a team where he is handed the starting job? Gage Gubrud and Zevi Eckhaus bolted to WSU and look where that got them. Is Mateer a legitimate NFL QB prospect in another year or two? If no, then the money now looks more appealing. If he bolts and gets stuck on the bench, there goes that prospect. Quinn Ewers at Texas appears to be being pushed to go to the draft (or portal?) to make room for Arch Manning. His draft prospects range from the 2nd to 6th rounds.

WSU plays teams from the B1G, ACC and SEC next year. Lots of high-profile games to show his wares. He faces no competition at WSU. He can always leave next year, maybe for even more money. Versus bird in hand at WSU.

If I had to bet I would say that he will (and should) put his name in, just so that he can compare his options. It appears that he plans to stay and play in the bowl game, both of which are on Dec. 27, the day before the portal closes (he has to declare but doesn't have to decide to leave by the 28th). Further, I give WSU a 40/60 chance that he will stay. $500K to stay, hone his skills, and be a God in Pullman. $1M to go into an uncertain future. Numerous other QB's shuffling around.

Gonna be a long December..........



 
Here's the version without the pay wall...

Will WSU be able to keep QB John Mateer when transfer portal opens? | The Seattle Times​

Greg Woods
Dec. 6, 2024 at 1:59 pm
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The Spokesman-Review
PULLMAN — In his third full season as Washington State’s head coach, Jake Dickert has established a way to try to retain as much of his roster as he can. After the season, he meets one-on-one with each player to talk about their strengths, their weaknesses. Dickert asks for feedback on other coaches, himself, on the program at large.

“I love those times,” Dickert said. “But unfortunately, there is now an extreme business side of those conversations. Trust me, I’ve been Zooming and communicating with families because I think the one thing the second parties are doing is really getting the families — maybe over the kids nowadays.”

By second parties, Dickert means ambassadors from other programs, who check out the Cougars’ program and look for players to pry away with lucrative NIL offers. As the head honcho of a program that often finds itself behind on the NIL front, at least relative to the power players in today’s college football ecosystem, Dickert has not been coy about his feelings about losing his guys to bigger programs.

When the transfer portal officially opens on Monday, Dickert is expecting to lose 15-20 players, he said. Some will be walk-ons who are figuring out their next move, he said, and others will be players buried on the depth chart who could get on the field sooner elsewhere. Still others, Dickert said, will be players who are “offered large sums of money.”

The Cougs have already lost one player, true freshman running back Wayshawn Parker, who announced Thursday he’s entering the portal.

“It’s tough. It’s really tough,” Dickert said. “We show them why they should be here. We show them our developmental process. We build those relationships. But it’s just tough at the end of the day, when you find a kid, you offer them, you’re the only big school to do that. Once you develop them, people come down and do some things with that.

“So we’re just in a weird place at college football. It’s not just happening to us. It’s happening all the way around the country, and at some point we gotta get some real guardrails on building teams, because from a general manager standpoint, you never know who’s gonna be coming and going that year, and the position group could be decimated.”

Will QB John Mateer be one of the players the Cougars lose to the portal? It’s certainly at the top of the mind of Dickert and the entire program. Mateer practiced as usual on Friday, the first day of the Cougs’ bowl practices.

Earlier this week, former WSU offensive coordinator Ben Arbuckle took the same job at Oklahoma, an SEC power with the kind of NIL muscle to lure players away. Could Arbuckle bring Mateer with him?

The Cougars are doing everything they can to prevent that and hang on to Mateer, who finished the regular season leading the country with 44 total touchdowns, 29 through the air and 15 on the ground. Dickert said his recent conversations with Mateer have been “really good,” adding that the team is putting together a “package” for Mateer, likely indicating collaboration with WSU’s NIL team, the Cougar Collective.

“We’ve done an amazing job of putting together a package for John that I think is fair, and he knows his value here,” Dickert said. “He knows how much he’s loved. I think it really means something for him to be here. I don’t take that for granted. I also take a step back and wanna mentor him, wanna help him, wanna navigate him through this. The talks have been really, really positive, and we’ll continue to navigate that as they go.”

WSU is currently operating without an offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator. Earlier on Monday, before Arbuckle’s departure became official, WSU announced that defensive coordinator Jeff Schmedding had been fired. That leaves the Cougs without any coordinators for their upcoming bowl game, which will likely be the Holiday Bowl in San Diego or the Las Vegas Bowl, both of which are set for Dec. 27.

In those coaches’ absence, the defensive-minded Dickert will call plays on defense, and quarterbacks coach John Kuceyeski will call plays on offense. Kuceyeski does have experience as an OC, working that role at Eastern Illinois from 2019-2021, and he previously worked as director of player personnel at Western Kentucky, where he overlapped with Arbuckle.

“He’s worked with John all year,” Dickert said. “I think they’re in good sync, good rhythm. Love what he has done in-series, in-game, when he was helping Coach Arbuckle. I think he’s got that vision, and he’s coordinated before, so excited about those responsibilities.”

But Dickert also needs to find full-time OC and DC replacements. For those roles, he said, he has interviews set up for this weekend with in-house and external candidates. Dickert offered no potential timeline on those decisions, saying he “won’t be in a hurry.”

“Just when it’s right,” Dickert said. “Got a bunch of interest for this job. I think that’s the cool part when things happen — this isn’t just people that need jobs. It’s people that understand what we’ve done here, how we’ve done it on both sides of the ball, the culture that we’ve built here, and I think that’s really important. So I’m excited about those guys, and we’ll find the right pieces for our staff.”

Greg Woods
Washington State beat writer for The Spokesman-Review
 
Don't know if y'all saw this article....but it sounds like WSU is making a big push to keep Mateer.

An interesting quote from the article...."And it says a lot about Washington State if they go toe-to-toe with Oklahoma and come out on top."

 
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WSU CB Ethan O’Connor announces he’s entering the transfer portal, plus two other entrants​

Dec. 7, 2024 at 11:01 p.m.

Tyler Tjomsland/The Spokesman-Review

PULLMAN – Washington State is losing one of its starting cornerbacks.

Redshirt freshman Ethan O’Connor is entering the transfer portal, he announced Saturday morning, moving on from WSU’s program after two seasons.

The portal does not officially open until Monday, when NCAA rules dictate coaches can begin contacting players in the portal, but plenty of players around the country have announced their plans to enter.

O’Connor is the fourth Cougar to enter the portal since the regular season ended on Nov. 30. He joins freshman running back Wayshawn Parker, fellow cornerback Warren Smith and wide receiver Brandon Hills, both of whom made their announcements on Friday evening.

“My time at WSU has been a remarkable journey. One filled with growth, unforgettable moments and lasting relationships,” O’Connor wrote in an Instagram post. “To my teammates who have become my brothers, my coaches who have challenged me to reach new heights, and the incredible fans whose support has been unwavering, I thank you. Each of you has helped shape not just the player I am, but the person I’ve become.”

After redshirting last season, O’Connor started all 12 games for WSU this season, totaling a team-best four interceptions to pair with 32 tackles (23 solo) and eight pass breakups. He also returned an interception for a touchdown, the winning score in WSU’s Oct. 12 win over Fresno State.

Before the season, O’Connor was slated to be a backup cornerback, but an injury to veteran Jamorri Colson thrust him into the starting lineup. Later in the season, when Colson came back from injury, O’Connor remained a starter. Two games into his first season , he picked off a pass in WSU’s Sept. 9 win over Texas Tech.

Coming out of high school at Los Angeles-area Los Alamitos, O’Connor was a highly touted prospect, fielding offers from the likes of Alabama, Georgia, Penn State, Arizona, Texas A&M, Washington and Colorado . He committed to UCLA as a senior but decommitted in spring 2023.

That led him to WSU, where his uncle, Jason David, starred at cornerback for the Cougars in the early 2000s. This season, O’Connor played 755 snaps, second most on the team.

Sophomore Smith played sparingly in his two years at WSU. Last fall, he took a redshirt season, playing in one game. This year, he played 67 snaps in seven games, including 32 snaps against FCS Portland State and 21 against Texas Tech. Smith turned down offers from Washington, Colorado, Arizona and UCLA to become a Cougar.

Hills, a redshirt freshman, appeared in one game at WSU, which came last season. His other offer out of high school came from FCS Northern Arizona.
 

WSU CB Ethan O’Connor announces he’s entering the transfer portal, plus two other entrants​

Dec. 7, 2024 at 11:01 p.m.

Tyler Tjomsland/The Spokesman-Review

PULLMAN – Washington State is losing one of its starting cornerbacks.

Redshirt freshman Ethan O’Connor is entering the transfer portal, he announced Saturday morning, moving on from WSU’s program after two seasons.

The portal does not officially open until Monday, when NCAA rules dictate coaches can begin contacting players in the portal, but plenty of players around the country have announced their plans to enter.

O’Connor is the fourth Cougar to enter the portal since the regular season ended on Nov. 30. He joins freshman running back Wayshawn Parker, fellow cornerback Warren Smith and wide receiver Brandon Hills, both of whom made their announcements on Friday evening.

“My time at WSU has been a remarkable journey. One filled with growth, unforgettable moments and lasting relationships,” O’Connor wrote in an Instagram post. “To my teammates who have become my brothers, my coaches who have challenged me to reach new heights, and the incredible fans whose support has been unwavering, I thank you. Each of you has helped shape not just the player I am, but the person I’ve become.”

After redshirting last season, O’Connor started all 12 games for WSU this season, totaling a team-best four interceptions to pair with 32 tackles (23 solo) and eight pass breakups. He also returned an interception for a touchdown, the winning score in WSU’s Oct. 12 win over Fresno State.

Before the season, O’Connor was slated to be a backup cornerback, but an injury to veteran Jamorri Colson thrust him into the starting lineup. Later in the season, when Colson came back from injury, O’Connor remained a starter. Two games into his first season , he picked off a pass in WSU’s Sept. 9 win over Texas Tech.

Coming out of high school at Los Angeles-area Los Alamitos, O’Connor was a highly touted prospect, fielding offers from the likes of Alabama, Georgia, Penn State, Arizona, Texas A&M, Washington and Colorado . He committed to UCLA as a senior but decommitted in spring 2023.

That led him to WSU, where his uncle, Jason David, starred at cornerback for the Cougars in the early 2000s. This season, O’Connor played 755 snaps, second most on the team.

Sophomore Smith played sparingly in his two years at WSU. Last fall, he took a redshirt season, playing in one game. This year, he played 67 snaps in seven games, including 32 snaps against FCS Portland State and 21 against Texas Tech. Smith turned down offers from Washington, Colorado, Arizona and UCLA to become a Cougar.

Hills, a redshirt freshman, appeared in one game at WSU, which came last season. His other offer out of high school came from FCS Northern Arizona.
Not too broken up about any of these. O’Connor had his moments, but made a lot of mistakes and blew coverages. There was some potential there, but I didn’t see much improvement over the season. Hopefully with the load of incoming DBs we have, there’s someone who can actually cover the pass.

The other two were not significant contributors, so…whatever.
 
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