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There's a place in town where I live called "The Arcade". For $11/person, you get unlimited play on just about every arcade game from the 80's to early 90's.
My favorite was the OG Street Fighter game that had the action buttons the size of your hand and required quite a bit of force just to depress them. If they had that, I'm with 95. It might just be a bucket list destination.
 
My favorite was the OG Street Fighter game that had the action buttons the size of your hand and required quite a bit of force just to depress them. If they had that, I'm with 95. It might just be a bucket list destination.
At WSU we were hooked on the pinball game Fathom, or the Sea Witch as we called her. Endless hours and pitchers of beer at the then-Campus Cavern after class. Then I graduated and haven't played any pinball or video games since.
 
At WSU we were hooked on the pinball game Fathom, or the Sea Witch as we called her. Endless hours and pitchers of beer at the then-Campus Cavern after class. Then I graduated and haven't played any pinball or video games since.
Sponge and I were in SC visiting my ailing father a month ago, and to blow off steam we went downtown Simpsonville. Three stop lights. Anyway, there is a game room that we went to blow off some steam. Donkey Kong Jr, centipede, Pac Man, Mario Brother, Galaga....all of the ones from the early 80's for sure. Needless to say time sucked out our greatness.
 
We can start here. Your turn.



You claimed: “The UK and the US said to keep fighting”

I see no evidence of the US taking this position. And just one uncorroborated claim about that idiot Boris Johnson saying something utterly absurd. If Johnson actually said this it stretches credulity that his comments had any influence on the proceedings.

Predictably Vladimir Putin has milked it - which should make it no surprise that American rightwing talking heads/media are (apparently) regurgitating it.

If Putin had actually allowed a deal to go through he would have essentially owned a colossal failure and put himself at even greater risk at a time when his political survival was in peril.

I had previously listened to an interview with these analysts which they gave after they published this far more interesting read on the matter. I had to submit an email address to read it.

 
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What town is this? I feel like it should be a stop on my next road trip.
There are a few places in Portland with retro arcade games but this place is out in Hillsboro away from all the homeless filth. Haven’t been yet but have wanted to go for a while. $22 all day and it’s massive - over 600 pinball and video games you can play.

 
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My favorite was the OG Street Fighter game that had the action buttons the size of your hand and required quite a bit of force just to depress them. If they had that, I'm with 95. It might just be a bucket list destination.
Street Fighter II - I sucked badly at it but pissed away a small fortune in quarters.
 
I was a Centipede guy. Spent many rolls of quarters in the video arcade next to the Coug.
No video arcade when I was there, just The Coug. I guess you are just a young punk then. LOL

Probably good thing it wasn't there, both for my grades and my bank account.
 
No video arcade when I was there, just The Coug. I guess you are just a young punk then. LOL

Probably good thing it wasn't there, both for my grades and my bank account.
No Campus Cavern? It had another name before that. Barley and Hops I believe? Now of course the downstairs of Valhalla.

You must be old if that wasn't there.
 
My favorite was the OG Street Fighter game that had the action buttons the size of your hand and required quite a bit of force just to depress them. If they had that, I'm with 95. It might just be a bucket list destination.
We would often stay in Alameda when going to Coug games vs Cal/Stanford. I remember seeing a pinball joint there on one of our last trips there, but didn't get a chance to try it out.

Also, there is (or was) a pinball Hall of Fame or Museum in Las Vegas. Saw it as we drove past on the way out to UNLV stadium from the Strip. Again, didn't get the opportunity to try it out.
 
No Campus Cavern? It had another name before that. Barley and Hops I believe? Now of course the downstairs of Valhalla.

You must be old if that wasn't there.
Most definitely old! Graduated WSC in 1930. ;-)




Okay, it really was 1974. Spent another year in Pullman working on MBA, left town in1975.
 
At WSU we were hooked on the pinball game Fathom, or the Sea Witch as we called her. Endless hours and pitchers of beer at the then-Campus Cavern after class. Then I graduated and haven't played any pinball or video games since.
The Coug didn't serve beer during my time there. Best pinball/beer combination was The Alley in Moscow. I forget which machine it was, but you could win wooden tokens for free beer on it. I did pretty well on that machine also. Of course, with The Alley's Friday happy hour the beer was pretty cheap anyway. From 11:00 am until 7:00 pm it was Happy Hour- 2 for 1 pitchers....$1.50!

Good times......
 
Sponge and I were in SC visiting my ailing father a month ago, and to blow off steam we went downtown Simpsonville. Three stop lights. Anyway, there is a game room that we went to blow off some steam. Donkey Kong Jr, centipede, Pac Man, Mario Brother, Galaga....all of the ones from the early 80's for sure. Needless to say time sucked out our greatness.
Sorry to hear that, Ed. Those are tough times, very stressful. Been there/done that in last 10 years with Mom, MIL, Dad, wife, 1 aunt, 2 uncles, several friends. You have my sympathy, try to focus mainly on the good times, good memories instead of the sadness of the loss.
 
The Coug didn't serve beer during my time there. Best pinball/beer combination was The Alley in Moscow. I forget which machine it was, but you could win wooden tokens for free beer on it. I did pretty well on that machine also. Of course, with The Alley's Friday happy hour the beer was pretty cheap anyway. From 11:00 am until 7:00 pm it was Happy Hour- 2 for 1 pitchers....$1.50!

Good times......
Wait, what? The Coug didn't always serve beer?

I think my time there, and in the several years after, had to be the best years. The Coug and the Cavern, I think the Adams Mall place had opened (memory fading). Dime beers on Wednesdays(?) at the Down Under, sometimes with live music. Monday 10PM happy hour upstairs at that motel by the viaduct. The downtown dives.

Moscow - The Capricorn, The Dispensary, the Nobby Inn with Nick pouring strong ones, Ratskellers in its heyday, Billiard Den which I got into at 18, white knuckle trips back to Pullman at 1AM to catch last call and dodging the WSP/Sheriff's lottery. Gee which 3 or 4 of the hundreds of cars at 1AM should we pull over and give DUI's to?

And yet I am still alive and have a functioning liver.

The Coug - best story is sitting there in a window table with pals, watching a Chi Omega sister upstairs changing. She got down to bra and panties then looked out her 2nd story window and saw us all staring at her. Curtains closed in a hurry.
 
You claimed: “The UK and the US said to keep fighting”

I see no evidence of the US taking this position. And just one uncorroborated claim about that idiot Boris Johnson saying something utterly absurd. If Johnson actually said this it stretches credulity that his comments had any influence on the proceedings.

Predictably Vladimir Putin has milked it - which should make it no surprise that American rightwing talking heads/media are (apparently) regurgitating it.

If Putin had actually allowed a deal to go through he would have essentially owned a colossal failure and put himself at even greater risk at a time when his political survival was in peril.

I had previously listened to an interview with these analysts which they gave after they published this far more interesting read on the matter. I had to submit an email address to read it.

I said start.

 
Wait, what? The Coug didn't always serve beer?

I think my time there, and in the several years after, had to be the best years. The Coug and the Cavern, I think the Adams Mall place had opened (memory fading). Dime beers on Wednesdays(?) at the Down Under, sometimes with live music. Monday 10PM happy hour upstairs at that motel by the viaduct. The downtown dives.

Moscow - The Capricorn, The Dispensary, the Nobby Inn with Nick pouring strong ones, Ratskellers in its heyday, Billiard Den which I got into at 18, white knuckle trips back to Pullman at 1AM to catch last call and dodging the WSP/Sheriff's lottery. Gee which 3 or 4 of the hundreds of cars at 1AM should we pull over and give DUI's to?

And yet I am still alive and have a functioning liver.

The Coug - best story is sitting there in a window table with pals, watching a Chi Omega sister upstairs changing. She got down to bra and panties then looked out her 2nd story window and saw us all staring at her. Curtains closed in a hurry.
Memories, misty water colored memories, of the way we were! LOL

1970-1975 Bases of Operations:

Pullman
Rico's-Lower key than other rowdy joints, lots of grad students would hang out there.
Charlie Brown's/Angus Og's- Across street from Rico's. Weird decor after CB's was remodeled Rico's and Charlie Brown's had happy hours at 10:00 on Wed or Thursday nights. A short walk down from 513 State Street basement duplex.
The Ram- Classic bar, best foosball action, monumental celebration there the night we learned my roommate was accepted to medical school!
The Down Under- Below Thunderbird Motel in commercial area, cheap beer, great oldies jukebox, IIRC had bands on weekends.

Moscow
Rathskeller's- Huge place outside of town, best bands were there, AppleJack was very good and Orange Blossom Special always brought down the house
Mort's Club- Several good pool tables, some foosball, quiet/low key place
Corner Club- classic place, decades old, mostly UI hangout
The Alley- Another great jukebox with oldies, great pinball, $.19 hamburgers, $.24 cheeseburgers, $.25 for a big basket of popcorn, best Friday Happy Hour
The Spruce- Dime night at the Spruce! No more need be said.
????- I can never recall the name of the place that is now Casa Lopez, right between Moscow Hotel and the Spruce. Decent place to take a date, the infamous place where I had a pitcher of green beer spilled on my beautiful white pants on St Patrick's Day. (it wasn't my fault!)

I know there were other places back then, but I never went to the others. Many new options today......
 
It's in downtown Wichita. Right across the street from a really good BBQ restaurant. And they serve sh!tty pizza at The Arcade if that's your thing.
I lost my taste for shitty pizza shortly after graduation. Not that it matters, because you said BBQ…so when I run out of quarters, I’m getting some brisket. Or ribs. Or pulled pork. Or maybe all three.
 
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Quitting?
Quitting?

I have to ask: did you even bother to read this hot mess? A steaming turd that reads more like a gossip column.

We’ve gone from: Johnson allegedly just “encouraging” Ukraine to not “sign anything”and “just fight” per Newsweek

To now this article which alleges that in Ukraine Pravda ( which it is noted in other sources I looked at as having an adversarial relationship with Zelensky):

“Boris Johnson told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky the West wouldn’t support any peace deal regardless of what Ukraine wanted, and they preferred to keep taking the fight to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was less powerful than they had thought.”

Which the author goes on to claim that:

“Johnson had himself confirmed albeit not in so many words, in a phone call to French President Emmanuel Macron that he had urged Zelensky against peace.”

But when one goesto the link provided to the Prime Minister’s office press release that’s not at all what he said:

“He urged against any negotiations with Russia on terms that gave credence to the Kremlin’s false narrative for the invasion, but stressed that this was a decision for the Ukrainian government.”

Furthermore the author attempts to support his argument by associating other sources with claims that NATO officials “stopped or undermined negotiations” the most prominent of these being none other than Gerhard Schroeder, who infamously was a major force in selling out Germany to Russia in the Nord Stream deal and is on Putin’s payroll to this day for it.

The transgression of sourcing Schroeder alone is enough to impeach this author’s credibility. He clearly has an agenda.
 
I have to ask: did you even bother to read this hot mess? A steaming turd that reads more like a gossip column.

We’ve gone from: Johnson allegedly just “encouraging” Ukraine to not “sign anything”and “just fight” per Newsweek

To now this article which alleges that in Ukraine Pravda ( which it is noted in other sources I looked at as having an adversarial relationship with Zelensky):

“Boris Johnson told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky the West wouldn’t support any peace deal regardless of what Ukraine wanted, and they preferred to keep taking the fight to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was less powerful than they had thought.”

Which the author goes on to claim that:

“Johnson had himself confirmed albeit not in so many words, in a phone call to French President Emmanuel Macron that he had urged Zelensky against peace.”

But when one goesto the link provided to the Prime Minister’s office press release that’s not at all what he said:

“He urged against any negotiations with Russia on terms that gave credence to the Kremlin’s false narrative for the invasion, but stressed that this was a decision for the Ukrainian government.”

Furthermore the author attempts to support his argument by associating other sources with claims that NATO officials “stopped or undermined negotiations” the most prominent of these being none other than Gerhard Schroeder, who infamously was a major force in selling out Germany to Russia in the Nord Stream deal and is on Putin’s payroll to this day for it.

The transgression of sourcing Schroeder alone is enough to impeach this author’s credibility. He clearly has an agenda.
I'm going to stay out of this pissing contest other than to comment that I read both of Gibby's articles, and they are both all about what Boris Johnson did and said. Nothing about what the US did or said. Which begs the question of what the pissing contest is all about.

The whole war was purportedly to be about the regions (now rubble) that Russia wanted. And NATO. But their initial assault was launched right at Kyiv, not even going through the contested regions. So clearly Russia wanted to take the whole country. Which would have backed them right up against NATO anyway. At this point Ukraine is probably going to have to give up those contested and now-destroyed regions and forget about Crimea. That ship sailed 10 years ago.
 
I'm going to stay out of this pissing contest other than to comment that I read both of Gibby's articles, and they are both all about what Boris Johnson did and said. Nothing about what the US did or said. Which begs the question of what the pissing contest is all about.

The whole war was purportedly to be about the regions (now rubble) that Russia wanted. And NATO. But their initial assault was launched right at Kyiv, not even going through the contested regions. So clearly Russia wanted to take the whole country. Which would have backed them right up against NATO anyway. At this point Ukraine is probably going to have to give up those contested and now-destroyed regions and forget about Crimea. That ship sailed 10 years ago.
It’s pretty clear that whatever Boris Johnson said and the consequences of it are being distorted/misrepresented.

The initial assault was an incompetent mess based on incompetent intelligence that led the Russians to believe the Ukrainians would lay down their arms and welcome them.

Putin has supposedly been angry at the West since the Soviet Union fell. Does he want to stick it to NATO? Is a NATO nation next door really perceived as I threat to Russia?

The more likely reason for Putin’s invasion is that Ukraine has north of 20 trillion in mineral assets (12-13 trillion of which are now in Russian held territory) plus Ukraine’s vast agricultural assets.
 
The FIB buried the lap-top and the crimes contained therein. “51 Intelligence Officers” intentionally lied to influence the 2020 election.

I understand you don’t care. Is anyone surprised to learn you don’t care? Unlikely.

It doesn’t matter. Gaetz sounds quite motivated to help them all confront their past indiscretion(s)
Trump lied what…10,000 times to influence the 2024 election? Apparently you don’t care either.

Matt Gaetz (ie butthead) can barely wipe his own ass, he ain’t doin shit.
 
It’s pretty clear that whatever Boris Johnson said and the consequences of it are being distorted/misrepresented.

The initial assault was an incompetent mess based on incompetent intelligence that led the Russians to believe the Ukrainians would lay down their arms and welcome them.

Putin has supposedly been angry at the West since the Soviet Union fell. Does he want to stick it to NATO? Is a NATO nation next door really perceived as I threat to Russia?

The more likely reason for Putin’s invasion is that Ukraine has north of 20 trillion in mineral assets (12-13 trillion of which are now in Russian held territory) plus Ukraine’s vast agricultural assets.

I'm going to stay out of this pissing contest other than to comment that I read both of Gibby's articles, and they are both all about what Boris Johnson did and said. Nothing about what the US did or said. Which begs the question of what the pissing contest is all about.

The whole war was purportedly to be about the regions (now rubble) that Russia wanted. And NATO. But their initial assault was launched right at Kyiv, not even going through the contested regions. So clearly Russia wanted to take the whole country. Which would have backed them right up against NATO anyway. At this point Ukraine is probably going to have to give up those contested and now-destroyed regions and forget about Crimea. That ship sailed 10 years ago.
I think a significant part of the reason for Putin's invasion is that Ukraine used to belong to the USSR, so it should again. Or so he believes.

I agree that the only way to stop the current war is to concede the lost territory, or at least part of it, to Russia. But from Ukraine's side, any peace agreement has got to include terms that prohibit any immigration from Russia for at least a generation, in order to avoid having Putin start the same passive invasion process all over again.
 
Sorry to hear that, Ed. Those are tough times, very stressful. Been there/done that in last 10 years with Mom, MIL, Dad, wife, 1 aunt, 2 uncles, several friends. You have my sympathy, try to focus mainly on the good times, good memories instead of the sadness of the loss.
Thanks Stretch... he was 96 living on his own, fully mobil, driving, trading stocks then one day in May he was carrying his coffee, tray and computer in from the back porch and his keg snapped right below the hip and hasnt walked since.

However, I will say if I can book in 96 healthy years, never been in the hospital prior to this accident, no cancer, and his kids and two grandkids are healthy. He has his marbles even at 97.... so it is amazing and choose to look at it as a gift .

Now I will question whether he is licid ad he did get his R on in the last election.
 
I have to ask: did you even bother to read this hot mess? A steaming turd that reads more like a gossip column.

We’ve gone from: Johnson allegedly just “encouraging” Ukraine to not “sign anything”and “just fight” per Newsweek

To now this article which alleges that in Ukraine Pravda ( which it is noted in other sources I looked at as having an adversarial relationship with Zelensky):

“Boris Johnson told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky the West wouldn’t support any peace deal regardless of what Ukraine wanted, and they preferred to keep taking the fight to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was less powerful than they had thought.”

Which the author goes on to claim that:

“Johnson had himself confirmed albeit not in so many words, in a phone call to French President Emmanuel Macron that he had urged Zelensky against peace.”

But when one goesto the link provided to the Prime Minister’s office press release that’s not at all what he said:

“He urged against any negotiations with Russia on terms that gave credence to the Kremlin’s false narrative for the invasion, but stressed that this was a decision for the Ukrainian government.”

Furthermore the author attempts to support his argument by associating other sources with claims that NATO officials “stopped or undermined negotiations” the most prominent of these being none other than Gerhard Schroeder, who infamously was a major force in selling out Germany to Russia in the Nord Stream deal and is on Putin’s payroll to this day for it.

The transgression of sourcing Schroeder alone is enough to impeach this author’s credibility. He clearly has an agenda.
So, you’re quitting. It’s more efficient to just say so.
 
I'm going to stay out of this pissing contest other than to comment that I read both of Gibby's articles, and they are both all about what Boris Johnson did and said. Nothing about what the US did or said. Which begs the question of what the pissing contest is all about.

The whole war was purportedly to be about the regions (now rubble) that Russia wanted. And NATO. But their initial assault was launched right at Kyiv, not even going through the contested regions. So clearly Russia wanted to take the whole country. Which would have backed them right up against NATO anyway. At this point Ukraine is probably going to have to give up those contested and now-destroyed regions and forget about Crimea. That ship sailed 10 years ago.
No one asked you. And you obviously can’t click on hyperlinks.
 
It’s pretty clear that whatever Boris Johnson said and the consequences of it are being distorted/misrepresented.

The initial assault was an incompetent mess based on incompetent intelligence that led the Russians to believe the Ukrainians would lay down their arms and welcome them.

Putin has supposedly been angry at the West since the Soviet Union fell. Does he want to stick it to NATO? Is a NATO nation next door really perceived as I threat to Russia?

The more likely reason for Putin’s invasion is that Ukraine has north of 20 trillion in mineral assets (12-13 trillion of which are now in Russian held territory) plus Ukraine’s vast agricultural assets.
Look who listened to Lindsey Graham’s interview on Hannity. I thought such shows were far below the self-proclaimed mighty Willie.

Ed wants a word with you about freedom.
 
With all these Russian assets, Vlad should have conquered the world by 2016.
Kompromat is real word for a reason.

And a dumbass six time bankrupted porn star hush money paying MFer who’s desperate for financing for his next bankruptcy is the exact type of guy that Putin and friends salivate over.
 
It's typical American arrogance to assume that Putin's actions are driven solely by the President of the USA. Russia didn't rush into Ukraine as soon as Trump left, so it's a bit myopic to say that it wouldn't have happened if Trump had been re-elected in 2020. Nobody knows what will happen once Trump is in, but it is safe to say that he will cut off funding to Ukraine and that is going to force Ukraine to try to find a peaceful diplomatic solution that includes Russia gaining new territory.

Now, history suggests that "peaceful diplomatic solutions" where the aggressor had a net gain usually leads to that aggressor being more aggressive in the future. We'll see how things actually play out. The one thing that I can say with confidence is that the world is not a better place when Russia is feeling that it's ok to act aggressively.

I know that the MAGA world is infatuated with Trump and suffers from their own version of TDS, but Ronald Reagan is tossing and turning in his grave as a result of the lack of world leadership displayed by Trump in the past and likely in the future. Isolationism didn't work in the 1930's and it will not work out well for us today.
Nobody has argued for isolationism. If that’s a message you’re hearing, I’m truly sorry for you.
 
So, you’re quitting. It’s more efficient to just say so.
“So you’re quitting” Says the guy playing dead.

I read the opinion piece you linked and responded to it. it’s Kremlin-approved propaganda. There’s not a lot more to say. Tucker Carlson awaits your arrival in Moscow.
 
No one asked you. And you obviously can’t click on hyperlinks.
Huh? Explain please that I can't click on hyperlinks. And try to do so without a flippant little dig? I read your linked stuff.

Also, you are having your little sandbox fight on a public message board. I'll chime in if I want to. Maybe you infants toddlers children men should do this via private messages?
 
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