I really want to defend Kegel. Dude was a warrior, and was a walking MASH unit by the end of the season.
IIRC, it would have really helped the cause if our senior center hadn't had a snap violation right on the goal line after a turnover. Might have been Kegel's first play after losing Gesser, but can't swear to it.
I know Chad Davis takes a lot of arrows from the Cougar faithful, and I won't put up a big argument against that, but a few years ago I saw a replay of the Alamo Bowl and was surprised at how well he played in that game. 300+ yards, IIRC.
Well gee let's look at the game footage (link below). Start at about the 2 hour 10 minute mark where Gesser got hurt - when he should have thrown it away. Yes we had first and goal from the 2, our offensive line immediately had a penalty. Then our play calling went to shit (this is 100% on Price). QB sneak on 3rd down? We saw that Kegel's whole career. And we had more penalties on the line before it was over.
This is a good example of why teams should do all they can to have their backup QB be physically and functionally similar to their starter. Gesser moved the pocket and was, to some degree, a scrambler. Kegel was a pure passer. They’re not interchangeable- the offense and the playcalling have to change between them. That ruins a game plan, and it’s hard to do that mid-game. Price showed that he wasn’t prepared to have Kegel in the game - even when he knew Gesser was gimpy.Well gee let's look at the game footage (link below). Start at about the 2 hour 10 minute mark where Gesser got hurt - when he should have thrown it away. Yes we had first and goal from the 2, our offensive line immediately had a penalty. Then our play calling went to shit (this is 100% on Price). QB sneak on 3rd down? We saw that Kegel's whole career. And we had more penalties on the line before it was over.
The O line sucked shit the rest of the game. Penalties, letting the mutt d-line, particularly Ellis, kick the shit out of us. Right until the end.
And play calling? It wasn't Kegel who called that stupid fade that Bush fell down on and was intercepted. Then Price called another similar fade in OT. And at the very end when we got F-ed by the refs. Kegel throws a ball after about a second, and Ellis is already in the backfield batting it down. Is that Kegel's fault?
So Socal, if you want to talk about who wet their pants talk about Price and the O line not Kegel.
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Meh - Kegel was mobile enough. But Price handled Kegel like shit. Like how he promised Kegel a series every game. Forget the actual calls, but if I recall it was screen pass, run up the middle and QB draw. Same plays every game.
Price had an affinity for pissing down his leg during the AC. The play calling in the 2001 AC was awful as well.Well gee let's look at the game footage (link below). Start at about the 2 hour 10 minute mark where Gesser got hurt - when he should have thrown it away. Yes we had first and goal from the 2, our offensive line immediately had a penalty. Then our play calling went to shit (this is 100% on Price). QB sneak on 3rd down? We saw that Kegel's whole career. And we had more penalties on the line before it was over.
The O line sucked shit the rest of the game. Penalties, letting the mutt d-line, particularly Ellis, kick the shit out of us. Right until the end.
And play calling? It wasn't Kegel who called that stupid fade that Bush fell down on and was intercepted. Then Price called another similar fade in OT. And at the very end when we got F-ed by the refs. Kegel throws a ball after about a second, and Ellis is already in the backfield batting it down. Is that Kegel's fault?
So Socal, if you want to talk about who wet their pants talk about Price and the O line not Kegel.
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Five bucks? Well, aren't you the big spender!
Friday at the Alley Tavern in Moscow was where it was happening. Happy Hour was from 11:00 am until 7:00 pm, 2 pitchers for $1.50!!! Only $.19 for hamburger and add cheese for a nickel. Huge basket of popcorn for a quarter. Great jukebox tunes, probably even better than the one at the Down Under and a pinball machine that I could beat like a borrowed mule! You could win tokens for free beers on the pinball machine. Crazy times there.You old timers kill me. I wonder if I’m too old to informal rush?? Free beer while it lasted.Five bucks? Well, aren't you the big spender!
I was at the ND game and the heat & humidity in South Bend that day ‘did-in’ the defense in the 4th quarter and they were completely gassed! ND’’s O-line took over and their. Ground game did the rest.Ok now you are talking stupid talk, dishing on Matt Kegel. He was hurt all year, barely played in the 3 games before the Holiday Bowl due to his injuries. Forget who boffed the ND game away but it wasn't Kegel. We all know the 2002 Apple Cup ended on a travesty of a call. As a Freshman he beat USC at USC for the first time in a gazillion years.
Get off your stat sheets. They only tell part of the story. Grit, leadership, playing through pain and injury. The don't show up on a piece of paper.
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$5 was rolling large. I remember hitting the ATM (new fangled invention at the time) and making $5 withdrawls for, like, 20 days straight.Five bucks? Well, aren't you the big spender!
The Alley. John's Alley? OK you must be old if those were the prices.Five bucks? Well, aren't you the big spender!
That’s what the back way over country roads was for. Did end up a snow bank one time and had to walk to Pullman to get pulled out.
I was there the evening Hank Arron hit his record setting hr in 74. Spent a lot of other evenings there, as well.Five bucks? Well, aren't you the big spender!
I forgot to list the Spruce - to be honest I barely remember it but know I've been there. Don't know what a bird dog is/was. And that place just out of town sort of towards Moscow Mountain. Forget the name.
Apparently you had no self discipline!
It was just called The Alley back then, as far as I know. Walked past it this past fall when I was over there and saw the sign that now calls it John's Alley. Usual price was $1.50 per pitcher, but the Happy Hour gave you 2 for 1. Needed those bonus prices when I only made $1.50 for each intramural game that I officiated. And yes, the Alley was on the side street, actually right next to the alley between the two main streets.
Man, you guys spent a lot more time in Moscow than I ever did. Later in my tenure, I did spend some time at Chasers (inside university inn) and at the Capricorn. In both cases, only because I was trying (unsuccessfully) to score with a waitress.
If your name here has anything to do with when you were at WSU instead of your age, there is a good reason why we knew Moscow so well. When I was there the drinking age was 20/19 in Idaho, one of very few states that legal drinking could be done prior to your 21st birthday. There were a LOT of us Cougs that took advantage of that opportunity. Wiki says that drinking age was 20 for beer and 21 for wine and liquor until 1972 when all alcohol went to 19. Lasted until April 11, 1987, when it was all raised to 21 (with grandfather clause)
I don't recall any deaths on the Pullman/Moscow hwy, but there certainly could have been. We always tried to keep our alcohol intake under control** but there were absolutely plenty of guys I saw that had no business in Hell getting behind the wheel of a vehicle.
Looks like I was there 15-20 years after you. Hwy 195 and the P-M highway were typically good for at least one fatality per year. There was usually at least one student who died between colfax and seattle over Christmas too.
I didn’t need to go to Moscow, I had Circle K near Stevenson and Hico by CCN. At both of them, if you were big enough to put your money on the counter they’d sell you beer. Or Boones, or Mad Dog. It wasn’t much harder to buy at Excel foods.
I started college in the fall of 1970, and left Pullman after a year of grad school in the summer of 1975. Graduation was 1974, on time, with lots of extra credits.
Yeah I don't remember any deaths. Hell the traffic moved pretty slow back on that 2 lane with a zillion cars. Barely enough room for the cops to squeeze in and hit the blues.
It seems like Mort's was similar to The Alley, in the middle of a side street block, maybe a black or two away from The Alley. Cannot be positive about that positioning though.Yeah I don't remember any deaths. Hell the traffic moved pretty slow back on that 2 lane with a zillion cars. Barely enough room for the cops to squeeze in and hit the blues.
Oh and to a previous question - Mort's and Billiard Den were two different places. I can't remember where Mort's was, or if I even went there.
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Yes, I got short circuited with the second one. Thanks for doing that. I recognized just a few names in there. Doug Picha was on the Cougs freshman team with me for the time that I was there. Such a sad way to go out.....
I didn’t see stadium way until about 10 years later, but I’m having a hard time imagining being able to hit a light pole unless the car was on the curb. Must have been some changes made in the late 70s/early 80s.
I think that may be exactly what happened, that the poles were relocated. I think I heard that long ago, but cannot verify.
