New discussion focused on the defensive coaching staff

[froropmkr72]

Fact: WSU spent (or were going to spend) $1.944 million on their defensive staff this year. That includes half of Matt Brock's salary. Smith at OSU was smart to go with 4 coaches on a $1.45 million defensive coaching budget. Paying each coach as higher salary. $600,000, $300,000, $300,000 and $250,000. With 4 coaches on the defensive side keeping a small part $60,000 from Brock's salary- WSU's defensive salary could like like this. Instead of 6 coaches who you can't attribute on field performance or recruiting to...you pay some proven coaches.

DC $834,000
DL $391.280
LB $391,280
DB $339,300

Maybe a DC who can recruit and coach, 3 proven position coaches...2 of which are proven recruiters themselves.

 

[cougarhawk1]

cant say enough about the damage other schools have done to the staff-kills continuity. This protection plan should have been put into place before they poached all of our key coaches-crippling.

I think it was done by design by Oregon.

 

[dgibbons]

Fact: WSU spent (or were going to spend) $1.944 million on their defensive staff this year. That includes half of Matt Brock's salary. Smith at OSU was smart to go with 4 coaches on a $1.45 million defensive coaching budget. Paying each coach as higher salary. $600,000, $300,000, $300,000 and $250,000. With 4 coaches on the defensive side keeping a small part $60,000 from Brock's salary- WSU's defensive salary could like like this. Instead of 6 coaches who you can't attribute on field performance or recruiting to...you pay some proven coaches.

DC $834,000
DL $391.280
LB $391,280
DB $339,300

Maybe a DC who can recruit and coach, 3 proven position coaches...2 of which are proven recruiters themselves.

The staff needs more recruiting punch. On both the O side and the D side.

 

[ShockandAweWSU]

This is the problem with hiring a DC separate from the D position coaches. Any good up and coming DC would want to hire his own guys. More chemistry that way.

 

[cougarhawk1]

Its like a bigger corporation sees a small competitor that's innovative and succeeding-so it says just hire away their sales manager and general manager, along with a few of their headhunters...…….even if we don't need those people just hire them to cripple the little guy.

I suppose in the business world Oregon and USC would just buy WSU and asset strip them, but since they cant do that this is the next best thing.

 

[425cougfan]

Its like a bigger corporation sees a small competitor that's innovative and succeeding-so it says just hire away their sales manager and general manager, along with a few of their headhunters...…….even if we don't need those people just hire them to cripple the little guy.

I suppose in the business world Oregon and USC would just buy WSU and asset strip them, but since they cant do that this is the next best thing.

Agreed -- they got some good coaches/recruiters, too, and they can convey information about a variety of things about how Leach does things. Easy way for them to improve themselves and cripple a division rival while they're at it. Don't forget their handing out of bogus titles, like Mastro getting the questionable "run game coordinator" title.

Further, the guys they hired all had built out relationships in key recruiting areas and with particular recruits. It's a slam dunk. Meanwhile, WSU is left going around the country to try to identify some good coaches and then to send them out recruiting with no relationships built (other than those developed at smaller schools in a different part of the country) and who basically are just selling the Pac-12 opportunity.

These guys we've hired may be decent coaches (jury's out) and, while the evidence suggests they aren't, solid recruiters. Recruiting takes time and work though, and we face the threat of any of them getting poached if they turn out to be any good.

 

[OrangeGravy]

And that will never change at WSU short of an uber rich alum coming out of the wood work to dump a pile of cash on the AD. Even if we ran the table and won the whole thing 1 season, it wouldn't translate to enough more money to compete at that level with any consistency. You simply have to have enough cash to fund a "Super" program in perpetuity to hold you're spot at the top.Oregon/SC (if they choose to spend it) are the only one's in the Pac that have the cash and would use it. A few other's like UW have enough cash to stay above .500 pretty much every year, but not enough to stay in the 10+ win range 8 of 10 years. It's the way college football is. You can write the W/L records down according to money every year for every team and be statistically close to accurate.

 

[cougarhawk1]

I would like to hear Leach's take on intra-conference rivals poaching his staff year after year, off the record. He is only going to have so many connections, friends and contacts made over the years-its got to be tough. Of course it all comes down to money.

Ive followed bigten and big12 play for many years and I cant ever recall this kind of poaching on a regular basis. Im sure its happened but not to this level. Teams for the most part have been able to keep their staffs together.