Not my Pullman

[95coug]

Yeah, I read all four RCWs before I posted and I stand by my interpretation. I find it interesting how you would downplay another person's physical injuries.

Tell you what hot shot - pretend it was your wife or daughter that was roughed up like that and had to be reminded daily of being attacked by the pain of taking a shower, putting on clothes, or simply moving around, and let that go on for a week or so.

Are you still carrying the water for the assailant to get a lesser charge that is used to prosecute a shove or slap?

If you want a conviction based on the injuries he discussed in the video, you go with assault 4. If you try for 3, they’re going to walk, because you’re not going to get 12 people to agree that those injuries caused “substantial pain” or “considerable suffering.” And that’s if the prosecutor would even charge 3, when it’s historically only been for attacks on public officers.

People see this as particularly significant because of the political angle. Reality is that Motivation is irrelevant to the charge. Remove that, and nobody even knows this happened. The TA gets fired, student gets sanctioned, and everyone moves on.

EDIT: There’s another factor here. The coverage and the rising indignation is based on the victim’s story and on about 15 total seconds of video. What if the 5 minutes of video before this show that red hat was taunting and/or shoving the 2 assailants? What if it shows that this wasn’t a random “they jumped me out of nowhere” but that he and some friends were provoking this? People tend to jump quickly to the conclusion that’s being provided to them, and fringe media (on both sides) is particularly willing to tell you what you think.

 

[Observer11]

If you want a conviction based on the injuries he discussed in the video, you go with assault 4. If you try for 3, they’re going to walk, because you’re not going to get 12 people to agree that those injuries caused “substantial pain” or “considerable suffering.” And that’s if the prosecutor would even charge 3, when it’s historically only been for attacks on public officers.

People see this as particularly significant because of the political angle. Reality is that Motivation is irrelevant to the charge. Remove that, and nobody even knows this happened. The TA gets fired, student gets sanctioned, and everyone moves on.

Sanctioned for what?

 

[95coug]

Sanctioned for what?

The student attacker would be sanctioned - not the victim.

 

[kougkurt]

Terrorism is an interesting word to use especially for someone who’s voiced support for domestic terrorists.

So they beat up a kid for wearing a hat. Gross yea. Let me ask you this and be honest. Would you call a fan at a game who picks a fight with a fan of the other team a terrorist? Asshole sure. To be fair people that wear political shit on their head during non political moments are assholes too. Yes, anyone that walks around town with a maga hat on is an asshole. So we had one asshole beating up another asshole. Terrorism no. Just like two football fans fighting, assholes being assholes.

“ anyone that walks around town with a maga hat on is an asshole” explain

 

[kougkurt]

The president pardoned the J6 rioters. And now maga is the voice speaking out against violence? Spare me the lecture.

Charlie Kirk is a cancer spreading his disease on college campuses. Why protest? That’s what he wants. Don’t go. Make it a ghost town.

Charlie Kirk is a cancer? Surely you have never listened to his message. Republicans are +12 with generation Z It’s a movement.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Charlie Kirk is a cancer? Surely you have never listened to his message. Republicans are +12 with generation Z It’s a movement.

I have seen his videos and heard his far right radio show. I changed the channel. I think it’s all a big show to push buttons on college campuses. Get a bunch of kids to show up, get them worked up with half truths and lies…. make videos for maga idiots to swallow on social media… all for the clicks, views and checks. So yes, Charlie Kirk is a cancer. How much money have you sent him?

 

[COUGinNCW]

“ anyone that walks around town with a maga hat on is an asshole” explain

I went to a Dodgers vs Padres game. There was someone there in a Giants hat (hated Dodgers rival). That guy is an asshole and was egging on attention. Same thing? Not quite but some similarities.

 

[95coug]

“ anyone that walks around town with a maga hat on is an asshole” explain

It’s the same as walking around Philly wearing a Cowboys or Giants hat, through the Bronx wearing a Mets hat, or Seattle wearing a 49ers hat. Or wearing UW/UO gear in Pullman on a random Tuesday in April. You’re taunting, and you’re doing it on purpose.

Is it your right? Yes. Should you get jumped? No. But you’re still knowingly being a jackass.

 

[BiggsCoug]

It’s the same as walking around Philly wearing a Cowboys or Giants hat, through the Bronx wearing a Mets hat, or Seattle wearing a 49ers hat. Or wearing UW/UO gear in Pullman on a random Tuesday in April. You’re taunting, and you’re doing it on purpose.

Is it your right? Yes. Should you get jumped? No. But you’re still knowingly being a jackass.

Walk around like a jackass sticking your thumb in people’s eyes… then wonder why someone would check you on it. Then cry. This is the maga way.

 

[kougkurt]

It’s the same as walking around Philly wearing a Cowboys or Giants hat, through the Bronx wearing a Mets hat, or Seattle wearing a 49ers hat. Or wearing UW/UO gear in Pullman on a random Tuesday in April. You’re taunting, and you’re doing it on purpose.

Is it your right? Yes. Should you get jumped? No. But you’re still knowingly being a jackass.

So maga hat conservative
- asshole. Pullman- liberal-provoked. Did I do that right?

 

[BiggsCoug]

So maga hat conservative
- asshole. Pullman- liberal-provoked. Did I do that right?

Have you seen a liberal at a trump rally? Think they got offered free beer? Goes both ways.

 

[kougkurt]

Have you seen a liberal at a trump rally? Think they got offered free beer? Goes both ways.

I’m struggling with your analogy. MAGA hat guy=trump rally. Pullman=progressive. May be true. But a sad state of affairs if it is.

 

[95coug]

I have seen his videos and heard his far right radio show. I changed the channel. I think it’s all a big show to push buttons on college campuses. Get a bunch of kids to show up, get them worked up with half truths and lies…. make videos for maga idiots to swallow on social media… all for the clicks, views and checks. So yes, Charlie Kirk is a cancer. How much money have you sent him?

And here’s the thing about his “prove me wrong” line: just like most of his ilk, you’ll never get him to agree you’ve proven him wrong, because he doesn’t accept facts that do prove him wrong. He discounts them as biased, regardless of source, or twists their meaning to support what he’s saying. Just like DT, he follows the idea that if he says anything enough times, it becomes true. Gen Z eats this up, because they only get information in 10 second video and 140 characters. They don’t analyze, and have little ability to do so. Gen Z are…just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons

That lack of analytical ability is also going to be perpetuated, now that the entire education system is being gutted, and held hostage for purely and openly ideological reasons.

“A well-informed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny.” This has been attributed, in some form or phrasing, to Thomas Jefferson. I’d say it’s being tested more now than ever. The last thing politicians - and especially republicans - want is an educated population that asks questions and analyzes information.

 

[Observer11]

The student attacker would be sanctioned - not the victim.

Clarification so noted.

 

[Coug90]

“ anyone that walks around town with a maga hat on is an asshole” explain

How do you feel about religious folks going around town, at school, in the office pushing their beliefs on people? It’s the same thing. Bumper sticker on your car or flag at your house is one thing. You’re forcing face to face interactions into your political sphere. There’s a time and a place.

If you disagree with me, then you’re essentially saying it’s the same as wearing a Seahawks hat. You’ve reduced it to a fan club…which in fairness is what maga is.

 

[Observer11]

And here’s the thing about his “prove me wrong” line: just like most of his ilk, you’ll never get him to agree you’ve proven him wrong, because he doesn’t accept facts that do prove him wrong. He discounts them as biased, regardless of source, or twists their meaning to support what he’s saying. Just like DT, he follows the idea that if he says anything enough times, it becomes true. Gen Z eats this up, because they only get information in 10 second video and 140 characters. They don’t analyze, and have little ability to do so. Gen Z are…just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons

That lack of analytical ability is also going to be perpetuated, now that the entire education system is being gutted, and held hostage for purely and openly ideological reasons.

“A well-informed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny.” This has been attributed, in some form or phrasing, to Thomas Jefferson. I’d say it’s being tested more now than ever. The last thing politicians - and especially republicans - want is an educated population that asks questions and analyzes information.

Your simple farmers 'morons' provide the food you eat. But I digress.

Maybe their vote should only be counted as 5/7ths.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

I went to a Dodgers vs Padres game. There was someone there in a Giants hat (hated Dodgers rival). That guy is an asshole and was egging on attention. Same thing? Not quite but some similarities.

Not even same fcking ballpark.

A person wearing a political affiliated hat isn't walking into "enemy territory" (though that could be argued vis a vis MAGA and any college campus presently) by simply existing on a college campus. In fact it should and could be argued that on a college campus is exactly where that person should feel safe.

 

[Coug90]

I’m struggling with your analogy. MAGA hat guy=trump rally. Pullman=progressive. May be true. But a sad state of affairs if it is.

I’m not sure I’d say Pullman is progressive. I’d guess if you conducted a political poll it would be pretty 50/50.

 

[WillieThePimp]

True. It’s ok to assault folks waking down the street, apparently minding their own business, because they are wearing a hat and J6 happened.

Anybody have a spare set of spray paint? Feeling the need, the need to go tag some Teslas this morning.

Who here is condoning violence or assault ( other than Goober in regard to J6)? No one.

I’m sure everyone is in agreement the grad student is a shithead for what he did.

What is laughable is how worked up some of you MAGA nancies are getting over an assault/confrontation that is not that out of the ordinary. Saw worse in my high school parking lot over just as stupid shit.

Of more concern is what Loyal pointed out: your Dear Leader will possibly cut federal funding to WSU if he catches wind. If that happens you clowns will undoubtedly blame the grad student instead of the real perp.

 

[BiggsCoug]

I’m struggling with your analogy. MAGA hat guy=trump rally. Pullman=progressive. May be true. But a sad state of affairs if it is.

Should a kid be able to wear his maga hat in Pullman without getting beat up? Yes.

Should you be able to wear your Harris Walz tee shirt at a maga rally without getting beat up? Also yes.

Let’s not pretend nothing will be said or done.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

How do you feel about religious folks going around town, at school, in the office pushing their beliefs on people? It’s the same thing. Bumper sticker on your car or flag at your house is one thing. You’re forcing face to face interactions into your political sphere. There’s a time and a place.

If you disagree with me, then you’re essentially saying it’s the same as wearing a Seahawks hat. You’ve reduced it to a fan club…which in fairness is what maga is.

Way to completely discount your own point.

If a guy wearing a Biden/Harris shirt was assaulted somewhere in TX simply for wearing the shirt you'd be losing your shit right now and screaming how there is never any excuse for putting your hands on people, NOT justifying by playing the victim blaming game of "well, they asked for it by how they were dressed."

Also completely ignoring the grad assistant "pushing their beliefs on people", literally in his classroom and across campus but point out that wearing a hat and being an activist is comical.

 

[kougkurt]

Should a kid be able to wear his maga hat in Pullman without getting beat up? Yes.

Should you be able to wear your Harris Walz tee shirt at a maga rally without getting beat up? Also yes.

Let’s not pretend nothing will be said or done.

But that’s not what happened. We’re talking about a college student wearing a maga hat on a college campus who got beat up by a Phd student and his pal. There was no rally. Why is this so difficult

 

[WillieThePimp]

Have you seen a liberal at a trump rally? Think they got offered free beer? Goes both ways.

They get threatened with violence on a regular basis. It’s why people like Jordan Klepper of The Daily Show has a security detail when he shows up. He’s been threatened many, many times.

And the MAGAs often make threats to the MSM in attendance.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

They get threatened with violence on a regular basis. It’s why people like Jordan Klepper of The Daily Show has a security detail when he shows up. He’s been threatened many, many times.

And the MAGAs often make threats to the MSM in attendance.

^^^^^^^^^^
Dipshit doesn't know the difference between making a threat and laying hands.

 

[WillieThePimp]

But that’s not what happened. We’re talking about a college student wearing a maga hat on a college campus who got beat up by a Phd student and his pal. There was no rally. Why is this so difficult

A better question is why are you all whipping yourselves up emotionally over this? No doubt it’s an ugly incident but some of you here are acting like it’s Pearl Harbor.

This shit happens. I posted this here a few weeks ago: a friend of mine who meets with his pilot buddies (all MAGAs) for breakfast every Saturday wore a “lock him up t-shirt” to tease his MAGA pals and some upset Trumptard at the bar got up and tried to make a move on him and the Trumptard ended getting physically restrained by his own wife. My friend was literally laughing about it and not pretending like it was Armageddon.

 

[WillieThePimp]

^^^^^^^^^^
Dipshit doesn't know the difference between making a threat and laying hands.

Did you know that threatening someone can be prosecuted as a misdemeanor or felony?

You are literally getting hysterical and working yourself into an emotional frenzy over this. Go hug your wife and have yourself a good cry.

 

[Coug90]

Way to completely discount your own point.

If a guy wearing a Biden/Harris shirt was assaulted somewhere in TX simply for wearing the shirt you'd be losing your shit right now and screaming how there is never any excuse for putting your hands on people, NOT justifying by playing the victim blaming game of "well, they asked for it by how they were dressed."

lol. When did I say that? My first response was “gross”. It’s still “gross”. In my humble opinion if you walk around on a random Tuesday with your maga hat or Biden shirt on youre being an asshole. Same as wearing a shirt that says “talk to me about Jesus!” You’re making a choice that every interaction you have that your hat or shirt comes first. If I walked up to you and said. Hi I’m Bob. I voted for Biden” you wouldn’t think…what an asshole?

 

[UberCougars]

Never have I supported domestic terrorists or domestic terror.

 

[kougkurt]

Check out the comments. WSU is reaping what they sow

 

[BiggsCoug]

But that’s not what happened. We’re talking about a college student wearing a maga hat on a college campus who got beat up by a Phd student and his pal. There was no rally. Why is this so difficult

Is there background between them? If they’re involved on campus in groups that are polar opposites…. could have been words before….

 

[kougkurt]

Is there background between them? If they’re involved on campus in groups that are polar opposites…. could have been words before….

Leave your shirt on Biggs. I’m kidding

 

[UberCougars]

Walk around like a jackass sticking your thumb in people’s eyes… then wonder why someone would check you on it. Then cry. This is the maga way.

A better question is why are you all whipping yourselves up emotionally over this? No doubt it’s an ugly incident but some of you here are acting like it’s Pearl Harbor.

This shit happens. I posted this here a few weeks ago: a friend of mine who meets with his pilot buddies (all MAGAs) for breakfast every Saturday wore a “lock him up t-shirt” to tease his MAGA pals and some upset Trumptard at the bar got up and tried to make a move on him and the Trumptard ended getting physically restrained by his own wife. My friend was literally laughing about it and not pretending like it was Armageddon.

Washington State Univerity Employee with Power over student, attacks student with a co-conspirator.

WSU needs to make a public statement they don’t endorse their instructors beating their students.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Leave your shirt on Biggs. I’m kidding

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Pro tip when golfing….. bring bear spray. When someone’s old lady wont stfu, paint her face orange first so you dont have to listen to her shrill voice as the fight starts. Then, settle it fair and square with fists. If anyone jumps in, they get the bear spray paint job too.

Golf sucks.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

lol. When did I say that? My first response was “gross”. It’s still “gross”. In my humble opinion if you walk around on a random Tuesday with your maga hat or Biden shirt on youre being an asshole. Same as wearing a shirt that says “talk to me about Jesus!” You’re making a choice that every interaction you have that your hat or shirt comes first. If I walked up to you and said. Hi I’m Bob. I voted for Biden” you wouldn’t think…what an asshole?

No, I wouldn't think "what an asshole."

Same as I don't give much thought or energy to anything anyone says or does unless it somehow directly affect the safety of me, my family, or my country.

Outside of Huskies or Ducks, idgaf what you have on your shirt or hat or what your beliefs are.

What I do think is that you're projecting, because if someone walked up to you and said "hi I voted for Trump" you'd think they were an asshole, both for innocuously sharing and for having voted for Trump.

 

[CougEd]

So maga hat conservative
- asshole. Pullman- liberal-provoked. Did I do that right?

Nope... your eyes are deceiving you . It was a peaceful confrontation , they say so on liberal news

 

[WillieThePimp]

But that’s not what happened. We’re talking about a college student wearing a maga hat on a college campus who got beat up by a Phd student and his pal. There was no rally. Why is this so difficult

So getting threatened or beat up at a rally is OK? I’m confused about these rules.

 

[WillieThePimp]

Washington State Univerity Employee with Power over student, attacks student with a co-conspirator.

WSU needs to make a public statement they don’t endorse their instructors beating their students.

WSU needs to make a statement about an assault between students on campus? That seems silly.

You however need to make a public statement right here denouncing all political violence and condemning Trump and the January 6ers he provoked in their violent assault on our capitol and democracy.

 

[kougkurt]

WSU needs to make a statement about an assault between students on campus? That seems silly.

You however need to make a public statement right here denouncing all political violence and condemning Trump and the January 6ers he provoked in their violent assault on our capitol and democracy.

I’ll do it. I condemn both. Just seems to happen way more frequently on one side.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

Feel free to look up the RCW yourself, but this is assault 3 all day long.

Why PPD/ Whitman DA are colliding with WSU admin to cover for this guy is beyond me. It's am on film FFS. I hope it goes national.

Remember when Robert Barber broke some dude's jaw and he was found not guilty? Maybe they don't want to waste taxpayer money today based on the lessons learned back then?

 

[CougInSpain]

No, I wouldn't think "what an asshole."

Same as I don't give much thought or energy to anything anyone says or does unless it somehow directly affect the safety of me, my family, or my country.

Outside of Huskies or Ducks, idgaf what you have on your shirt or hat or what your beliefs are.

What I do think is that you're projecting, because if someone walked up to you and said "hi I voted for Trump" you'd think they were an asshole, both for innocuously sharing and for having voted for Trump.

Truer words have never been spoken. Imagine, if you would, a workplace completely immersed in DEI and all the acceptable social norms they foster within this ideology. Then imagine they announce to the entire workforce of said company that they want to offer a space where EVERYONE can share their ideas and thoughts without interruption, judgement or repercussions. Now think about someone who doesn't believe DEI should be part of the workplace environment speaking out against it within that forum. The ideological leftist cult would have that person's azzz fired immediately just for taking part in their little "inclusion" game. Liberals are, by far, the most hateful racist bigoted hypocritical azz hats this country has to offer.