Waiting for the part where you say your BIL physically assaults the guy with the Biden hat.
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You mean those 2 major pieces of legislation that resulted in shifts in party alignment? Lol. Keep up old man.
He’s possibly already on government welfare through subsidies. But I personally think those are generally a good thing in principle despite the huge amounts of waste of taxpayer dollars routed to farms. We need to maintain our agricultural infrastructure just in case. DOGE should be going after the waste and fraud in Ag but you know they won’t because of the political power that corporate farms wield.
"corporate farms" is increasingly difficult to define. Even family farms are very often incorporated. I'd be all in favor of seeing a definition that distinguishes the family corporation farm from the Pioneer, Cargill, ADM, etc. holdings. Once that distinction is made, I'd also be happy to see a conversation about whether those conglomerates should be eligible for farm subsidies at all.
I have twins. One is transgender and goes to Evergreen and the other is at WSU. I can assure you that I'm not MAGA, but I'm also not a progressive.
You sound like someone who can't wrap their head around how or why someone could have a differing political or economic viewpoint than yours. There's a lot of that in the world right now. For me, there are many liberal ideologies that I'm in favor of, but I'm conservative and set in my ways about things too.
I've worked in medical capital equipment sales most of my career. I'm very blessed. The pay is outstanding, and we do better with conservative business policies. For example, the Chinese tariffs have taken out my #1 competitor. It's long overdue. Outside of that, there are other reasons why I'm more on the fence than someone like yourself. My Dad was a lead Aerospace engineer at Boeing for nearly 40 years. Like my business, they did better with conservative policies, so he was mostly conservative. My Godfather was a Vietnam vet as are several members of my extended family. My girlfriend's (we've been together for 12 years) family is largely made up of first responders (fire dept), blue collar trade workers, and military vets. She herself got her dental training in the US Navy. Needless to say they're generally conservative.
I mentioned that my son (now daughter) is at Evergreen. I'm fully supportive of her, but the people in her circle and that campus culture is outer worldly to me. The kids are rude, confused, thrive on conflict and hate, and are nobody that I would want to spend time with. Without question there are tens of millions of conservative wackos who fit that description as well. I wouldn't spend time with them either.
I understand this means nothing to you, but at some point, people need to realize that we all have our reasons for voting the way we do. Not all of my feelings are fact based, and I try to be transparent about that. I don't like the stereotypical West coast progressives because I find them strange and off-putting. The K-12 system here (for me) was nauseating. It all seems fake to me, but good news, I only have 1 vote.
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WSU instructor arrested for assaulting student in Trump hat
A WSU instructor faces arrest for allegedly attacking a student wearing a Trump hat, raising questions on campus conduct.
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I for one would enjoy seeing Doge, Elon and perhaps JFK jr. locking horns publicly with let’s say, Cargill. 🍿
I'm way past that incident and don't give a shit about the guy. I only brought it up because successfully prosecuting an assault charge isn't always easy, even with witnesses and video. It is kind of funny to see some of our board members calling for a libtard's head after expending so much energy defending a football player.
FWIW, I do hope that Barber has found some purpose in his life.
My brother-in-law's "family farm" includes farming over 4500 acres and he has millions of dollars in farm equipment that he replaces every few years.
Yet to be picked up by anything other than conservative media outlets.WSU instructor arrested for assaulting student in Trump hat
A WSU instructor faces arrest for allegedly attacking a student wearing a Trump hat, raising questions on campus conduct.
The point I think is huge in that is how people can’t comprehend differing viewpoints. And sadly, that’s being led by an administration that now makes funding of anything contingent on accepting its policies and priorities.
Acknowledgement of different opinions used to be a strength of this country. Now, too many people think that ideas are bad because of who raises them - not because of what they are.
There’s way more of them. They are called regular people who didn’t vote for Joe or Kamala but don’t have to walk around with maga s
I guess you’ll have to imagine Cargill and doge, but this gives you half of the experience:
Does 95% of either side actually have a viewpoint other than "the opposite side is bad"?
There are tons of videos of conservatives exposing your run of the mill libs as being ignorant dolts, but I think theres a huge part of that that is because conservatives are the ones doing these videos. I suspect if someone took the time and did the other way you'd see the same thing from your average conservative.
People are sheep and turn to "leaders" for ideas and information, and when the only thing they provide is identity politics and fear mongering this is what you get. No one younger than Gen X remembers or knows what political discourse is, just this current atmosphere of hate.
Charlie Kirk is in Pullman tomorrow @Noon. Tickets on turning point USA website
And a link to the Instructor/ student assault at WSU from My Northwest
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And a link to the Instructor/ student assault at WSU from My Northwest
WSU instructor arrested for assaulting student in Trump hat
A WSU instructor faces arrest for allegedly attacking a student wearing a Trump hat, raising questions on campus conduct.
mynorthwest.com
No idea what the percentages are, but I think they’re lower than your estimate. Problem is that the most vocal ones are the biggest morons, and at this point those are the only ones being heard.
Good post and I appreciate the time and effort.
“You sound like someone who can't wrap their head around how or why someone could have a differing political or economic viewpoint than yours.”
Born on a military base and raised in an upper middle class household with a conservative father whose best friend was a pipefitter. Other family friends included ranchers and farmers and assorted lay people. Grew up in a semi-rural area with many small farmers and did not fit in any 1 clique in a very cliquish high school. Had friends across socioeconomic classes. I live in a community that leans liberal in the heart of a conservative area but I work in and with a very conservative population in a nearby town with many salt of the earth people that I like very much. And I have family and friends that are conservative Trump supporters. And I have had civil conversations with some of them about politics and social issues.
I consider myself a moderate and have never had any political party affiliations and have voted across both parties.
I imagine we probably have more in common with our beliefs and feelings than we do differences.
But you are dead wrong if you think I can’t wrap my head around how or why someone could have a difference of opinion.
I understand full well where many Trump supporters are coming from but that doesn’t change the fact that Trump is an abomination.
Yes it is funny but mostly just plain dumb. It just goes to show how people’s beliefs and biases can affect their judgement.
How many people do you think could intelligently articulate why they are for or against tariffs? Assume n=100.
Thoughtful post by patrol. I think what’s missing is conservatism vs trumpism. Trump isn’t even a conservative himself, he plays one on TV. Like Willie, I also take no issue with conservative values and I’m solidly in the middle as far as those values and policy goes.
Conservatism doesn’t equal hate…Trump does (and to patrols point so do far left wackos, including these guys who jumped the maga hat wearer)
You’re not representing conservatism by defending Trumps every flaw and finding excuses for him. You’re cheering on someone who believes he’s above the law, promotes hate, violence, misogyny, etc. He’s not religious so the Christian angle is BS (I’m Christian myself although I find myself embarrassed to say it now). Trump is interested in serving Trump and those like him..that’s it.
If you’re conservative, great, support a candidate who actually believes in your values, not just absolute power. If you find yourself defending the guys every nefarious action and plastering yourself with maga apparel, you’re not conservative anymore, you’re in a cult/fan club.
30-40 total, with varying degrees of actual understanding. If you want detailed economic or historical analysis, less than 5.
This assumes that 40 around the middle are checked out and only notice that things are more expensive and don’t really know/care why. Also assumes that 10-15 at each end only hold their opinion because Trump/Vance/Musk/Hannity/Loomer/their neighbor’s dog told them tariffs are good, or on the other end that tariffs are bad. Neither of those groups has intelligent answers for much of anything.
just wear a giant sign that says you are a loser, it will save you the gas money
95. The amount of people who have watched Ferris Buehler more than a dozen times and can recite Ben Steins lecture on Smoot Hawley.
better send him to the el salvador gulag with no trial. that is what the party of law and order does.Charlie Kirk is in Pullman tomorrow @Noon. Tickets on turning point USA website
And a link to the Instructor/ student assault at WSU from My Northwest
WSU instructor arrested for assaulting student in Trump hat
A WSU instructor faces arrest for allegedly attacking a student wearing a Trump hat, raising questions on campus conduct.
Sounds serious. Did that happen? Where? Got a link?
I posted the link from KIRO because some said the only place it was posted was on social media. That’s it!
Weaksauce.... I thought you were better than this. Disappointed in your lack of artistic trolling.
Hard to tell how big it is with only one perspective. It’s not Gameday big. Not even sure it beats a CCN courtyard party.
Violence against Rs/conservatives is okay--Hell, if they don't fire this A-hole prof, they'll give him a promotion. We aren't human in the eyes of the hard-left--we DESERVE to be beaten because we don't share their views. . But then, they aren't much for **diversity**of thought.
You can take out the lart and just say violence is ok. This is now just the reality. R's told us for three years what we saw on Jan 6th was our imagination. Unfortunately, you reap what you sow.
Here is a stat for you ... goes to mentorship and role models. Boys who have father who cheated on their mothers are 50% more
likely to cheat on their ling term girlfriends or wives. Goes to mentorship and leadership.
Again, wasn’t a professor. He’s a grad student with a teaching assistantship.
And, he’s been fired.
I just read that he had been fired. It’s really a shame what colleges have become. I went to WSU in the early to mid 80’s and I remember two individuals getting into a year long debate in letters to the editor in the Evergreen about secularism vs humanism. They stuck to the facts as they knew it and were civil about it. The debate was never settled so one individual offered to continue the debate by meeting someplace over beer during the summer. It was a good open minded debate that they enjoyed and both agreed not to agree. That is what is what is missing today’s campuses with all the divisiveness, intolerance and narrow mindedness that is occurring and that’s a shame. I can guarantee those two got more out of their debate compared to some TA who beats the crap out of a student because he doesn’t like his hat.
When I was there in the early 90's, I witnessed (and participated) in many Bush vs Clinton discussions--in the classrooms, in the library, at the bar, at parties, etc. Discussions were usually straight about the policies, not the individuals themselves. It then usually settled back on the usual D vs R discussion, but at no point did I see either side call the other's candidate an abomination, criminal, or other such name calling. And nobody got punched, bit, spat on, or run out of a party or room for disagreeing.
I agree, where we are now is so very different than it was 30+ years ago.
But then again, maybe it is cyclic. In the Vietnam era, it wasn't unheard of for fights/violence/name calling to break out over civil rights, Vietnam itself, communism, etc. At least per my elder relatives' stories. And then it tamped down in the late 70s through the 90s. Then ratcheted back up. Maybe we are due soon for a correction back to decency and respectability.
It's not just colleges, it's everywhere. Nobody tolerates divergent opinions anymore. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot. Just read this board.
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