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Rubio landed, had a cup of coffee and left with another win before lunch. (For those of you still locked in an intellectual struggle with downloading the X app and can’t read this, let me know. I’m here to help!)

 
Rubio landed, had a cup of coffee and left with another win before lunch. (For those of you still locked in an intellectual struggle with downloading the X app and can’t read this, let me know. I’m here to help!)

I’m sure it’s just this easy. When has Marco Rubio ever been full of shit in his life?!

Thank god for Benny Johnson. He must be working on like his 9th or 10th Murrow award by now for his journalistic excellence right?!
 
Glad to hear that wasn’t really Panama’s president surrendering on live TV the day Sec of State arrived to educate him.

Perhaps Rubio was never there at all! Ever think of that?
 
Glad to hear that wasn’t really Panama’s president surrendering on live TV the day Sec of State arrived to educate him.

Perhaps Rubio was never there at all! Ever think of that?
😂. Trump already peed down his leg on Mexico. This is such a giant shitshow, I’m glad for you that you are blissfully ignorant to it all.
 
Rubio landed, had a cup of coffee and left with another win before lunch. (For those of you still locked in an intellectual struggle with downloading the X app and can’t read this, let me know. I’m here to help!)


So....I spent two minutes researching what actually happened over the weekend. A few things...
  1. US Navy ships will no longer be charged for passage through the canal. This is a good thing and congrats to Trump (and Rubio?) for getting this done. I'm actually surprised that was even a thing.
  2. Panama has agreed to not renew its memorandum of understanding on the 2017 "Belt and Road" initiative. This feels more like a political win that doesn't mean anything.
  3. Trump and Rubio are focusing on the fact that ports on either side of the canal are operated by a Chinese company. However, Panama (and China) say that the ports have nothing to do with the operation of the canal itself. The whole obsession with those ports has more of a feel of jealousy than any threat to operations of the canal.
There's a lot of posturing and it's a good thing that our Navy ships will not get free passage, but other than that...this feels like a lot of yelling about things. We gave the canal back to Panama decades ago and unless we are ready to admit that Russia has a right to subjugate Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and all of the 'stans, we should quit talking about using military force on something that hasn't really been that big of an issue. When actions by our leaders mirror those of the leaders of countries that are widely consider to be evil....we should be questioning if those actions should be taken.

There is a lot of penis wagging and peacocking going on right now in the White House and it's unbecoming for so many people to embrace it. It is a good thing that Panama has apparently agreed to allow our Navy ships to pass through free of charge but one has to wonder if Trump needs to be a big giant prick about everything to get that one real concession.
 
So....I spent two minutes researching what actually happened over the weekend. A few things...
  1. US Navy ships will no longer be charged for passage through the canal. This is a good thing and congrats to Trump (and Rubio?) for getting this done. I'm actually surprised that was even a thing.
  2. Panama has agreed to not renew its memorandum of understanding on the 2017 "Belt and Road" initiative. This feels more like a political win that doesn't mean anything.
  3. Trump and Rubio are focusing on the fact that ports on either side of the canal are operated by a Chinese company. However, Panama (and China) say that the ports have nothing to do with the operation of the canal itself. The whole obsession with those ports has more of a feel of jealousy than any threat to operations of the canal.
There's a lot of posturing and it's a good thing that our Navy ships will not get free passage, but other than that...this feels like a lot of yelling about things. We gave the canal back to Panama decades ago and unless we are ready to admit that Russia has a right to subjugate Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and all of the 'stans, we should quit talking about using military force on something that hasn't really been that big of an issue. When actions by our leaders mirror those of the leaders of countries that are widely consider to be evil....we should be questioning if those actions should be taken.

There is a lot of penis wagging and peacocking going on right now in the White House and it's unbecoming for so many people to embrace it. It is a good thing that Panama has apparently agreed to allow our Navy ships to pass through free of charge but one has to wonder if Trump needs to be a big giant prick about everything to get that one real concession.
Shouldn’t you just take the win and tell your client “no, there will be no pvc pipe surcharge in the contract”?
 
Shouldn’t you just take the win and tell your client “no, there will be no pvc pipe surcharge in the contract”?

This comment makes as much sense as the other horseshit that you post on this site. The project is bid....there is no way to unring the bell. If PVC prices don't jump as anticipated, the contractor just pockets the profit.
 
This comment makes as much sense as the other horseshit that you post on this site. The project is bid....there is no way to unring the bell. If PVC prices don't jump as anticipated, the contractor just pockets the profit.
White flag?

Good for the contractor. Sounds like he knew his audience and won, again. Sounds like a savvy guy.
 
This comment makes as much sense as the other horseshit that you post on this site. The project is bid....there is no way to unring the bell. If PVC prices don't jump as anticipated, the contractor just pockets the profit.
In my world, while the low bid is usually the one that’s taken, if there’s something in the low bid that’s a concern, you can choose to accept a different bid. You have to be able to justify it, and there’s always the possibility of a challenge, but you’re not 100% locked into low bid.
 
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In my world, while the low bid is usually the one that’s taken, if there’s something in the low bid that’s a concern, you can choose to accept a different bid. You have to be able to justify it, and there’s always the possibility of a challenge, but you’re not 100% locked into low bid.
Oh, ok. So you sell money management services. Got it, thanks!
 
For being an active money manager you seem to miss a lot of current information while spending market hours on this web site.

Not being critical, just observing.
 
For being an active money manager you seem to miss a lot of current information while spending market hours on this web site.

Not being critical, just observing.
The only money I manage is my own. Your observation is another example of drawing faulty conclusions based on tiny scraps of misinterpreted information.
 
In my world, while the low bid is usually the one that’s taken, if there’s something in the low bid that’s a concern, you can choose to accept a different bid. You have to be able to justify it, and there’s always the possibility of a challenge, but you’re not 100% locked into low bid.

All five bids were between $78 and $90 per lineal foot for pipe that usually bids between $58 and $60 per lineal foot. Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done.

What's even dumber is that all of the local contractors have an honor system on bids. If we pulled the bids and sent it out later after pipe prices dropped, they would all bid the same numbers again. Hell, I had a project that I completely redesigned from scratch because bids were too high and the low bidder from the prior bid was pissed when he didn't win the job in round two.
 
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White flag?

Good for the contractor. Sounds like he knew his audience and won, again. Sounds like a savvy guy.
What does it do for you to act like an expert in something you know absolutely nothing about.

Terrible debating in a political discussion is one thing, but it makes you look like a major league tool trying to argue with people about their own business when you clearly have a Twitter/Facebook education on it at best.
 
The only money I manage is my own. Your observation is another example of drawing faulty conclusions based on tiny scraps of misinterpreted information.
Could’ve sworn he said, he managed another threat by mistake and apology
 
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All five bids were between $78 and $90 per lineal foot for pipe that usually bids between $58 and $60 per lineal foot. Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done.

What's even dumber is that all of the local contractors have an honor system on bids. If we pulled the bids and sent it out later after pipe prices dropped, they would all bid the same numbers again. Hell, I had a project that I completely redesigned from scratch because bids were too high and the low bidder from the prior bid was pissed when he didn't win the job in round two.
Bad situation. I don't know what your jurisdiction is....is there any way you can remove the pipe acquisition from the bid and buy it yourself? I'm considering that with an electrical bid I've been working on - we have a contract in place for electrical equipment, so I'm thinking of buying the equipment on contract and then bidding the install. All depends on what arrangement I can get done for less.
 
Bad situation. I don't know what your jurisdiction is....is there any way you can remove the pipe acquisition from the bid and buy it yourself? I'm considering that with an electrical bid I've been working on - we have a contract in place for electrical equipment, so I'm thinking of buying the equipment on contract and then bidding the install. All depends on what arrangement I can get done for less.

The way that the local cities bid these projects, there's nothing to be done. If they start trying to pull individual items out, the contractors always say that they'll have to raise the prices on other bid items as a result. The local municipalities don't really care, because they pass 100% of the cost to the project, so why get a bloody nose over something that doesn't matter that much to you?
 
In my world, while the low bid is usually the one that’s taken, if there’s something in the low bid that’s a concern, you can choose to accept a different bid. You have to be able to justify it, and there’s always the possibility of a challenge, but you’re not 100% locked into low bid.
Exactly. In one of my projects the building shell and core was the basic contract, tenant improvement a second contract, exterior hardscape a third contract, and landscaping a fourth contract. When the hardscape bids came in one bid was significantly lower than the grouping of the other submittals, which raised concerns. Upon examination and discussion with the contractor it was discovered that they had left out a significant portion of the design/scope of work. Rather than force the company to honor their bid and possible force them out of business but certainly end up fighting with them as they would try to cut corners in order to minimize their financial damage, we allowed them to withdraw their bid. Best result for them and us.
 
The way that the local cities bid these projects, there's nothing to be done. If they start trying to pull individual items out, the contractors always say that they'll have to raise the prices on other bid items as a result. The local municipalities don't really care, because they pass 100% of the cost to the project, so why get a bloody nose over something that doesn't matter that much to you?
Why do it? Because that is the proper way to manage the people's money. Your answer is the typical response from a politician and/or bureaucrat.

This is something that should be easy to address. Ask the contractors to submit their bids identifying a base cost for the conduit. Confirm that there is a possible uncertainty in the market for said conduit and that the end cost of the project will be adjusted up (to protect the contractor) or down (to protect the municipality) based on actual costs to purchase the identified materials.

It isn't nuclear rocket heart surgery.
 
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