Former Louisiana Tech defensive coordinator Manny Diaz took the Mississippi State job, former Houston defensive coordinator David Gibbs took the Texas Tech job and former Utah State defensive coordinator Todd Orlando just took the Houston job.
Recap of today's DC hires...
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We don't even know if Leach was interested in Orlando. I saw Diaz is going to make 575k at MSU. We could probably afford very close to that. Maybe Pendergast is still the guy?
You just have to be patient, things will work themselves out. These DC coaches that just got hired, which may have been on your radar, all had connections with the staff they joined, WSU probably was not in the mix for them anyway. There are plenty of quality coaches that would love to be a DC in the Pac 12 and work for Leach. I'd rather they take there time and find someone who has a passion for the game and for WSU, then just hire the first big name that comes up.
Pendergast probably wants too much money. He was making $900,000 at USC so he probably wants a job making that kind of money. I would guess that the cougs are probably offering about $500,000 for the DC position.
Re: Ed Orgeron, baby!
Orgeron is a great recruiter and he did a nice job with SC last year, but let's not forget the fact he was a complete disaster at Ole Miss. And I haven't seen anything from him that he would remotely be a good DC. If he was so good, SC would have hired him and not Pendergast last year before the season. Why in all his years of coaching has he never coordinated a defense? This piece runs up there with article about that 5 running back that was gonna visit because he was friends with some trash walk-on we had.
Re: Did they write an article similiar to this years Apple Cup?
Why bend over backwards to exaggerate parallels between a historically bad stretch of coaching, for ALL the NCAA, and what we have now? Isn't that a miserable way to root for a TEAM, and not the guy on the sidelines?
Why bend over backwards to exaggerate parallels between a historically bad stretch of coaching, for ALL the NCAA, and what we have now? Isn't that a miserable way to root for a TEAM, and not the guy on the sidelines?
The parallels you choose to draw...
...when a quip about an Arizona game under the past staff is aired, and you choose to compare that to the last game the team played.
I'd like to see the "UW players say Wazzu didn't show up for the AC" article- doubt it's there, though.
...when a quip about an Arizona game under the past staff is aired, and you choose to compare that to the last game the team played.
I'd like to see the "UW players say Wazzu didn't show up for the AC" article- doubt it's there, though.
Actually it is how you choose to read it with a Wulff sensitivity
But I think several things are pretty funny...we are talking about Arizona, who played horribly in their bowl game. Two, those same players got drubbed by WSU in 2013. Third, to take anything a player says about others effort post game to heart simply is ludicrous. If the remark was made about a game in which Doba coached, I would still use the same "quip". Fourth, we are talking about a coach who will now be four years removed. He didn't have the record any of us would like. But say what you want, do you really believe lack of effort once he cleaned house was really a problem?
But I think several things are pretty funny...we are talking about Arizona, who played horribly in their bowl game. Two, those same players got drubbed by WSU in 2013. Third, to take anything a player says about others effort post game to heart simply is ludicrous. If the remark was made about a game in which Doba coached, I would still use the same "quip". Fourth, we are talking about a coach who will now be four years removed. He didn't have the record any of us would like. But say what you want, do you really believe lack of effort once he cleaned house was really a problem?
Re: Actually it is how you choose to read it with a Wulff sensitivity
No, I think "we're" talking about Arizona circa the Wulff era, which you've compared to this year's Apple Cup.
As for effort once he "cleaned house", that house was so clean of talent, mistaking incompetence for disinterest wasn't a major mistake.
No, I think "we're" talking about Arizona circa the Wulff era, which you've compared to this year's Apple Cup.
As for effort once he "cleaned house", that house was so clean of talent, mistaking incompetence for disinterest wasn't a major mistake.
Re: What parallels....
I find your consistent leg humping appalling.
But at least you are consistent.
I find your consistent leg humping appalling.
But at least you are consistent.
Actually the comment was about how the Arizona players
spoke about the lack of effort. And a select few players locally said the same thing about WSU after the Apple Cup. And in either case, neither have cred-which is the greater point
In in the case of lees talent, maybe that is the case. I recognize the fact Doba left so many D1 players that were recruited from 2005 to 2008, and left a huge list of committed players for the new staff to pick and choose from, but I do wish we could have taken the same talentless team from 2013 and won again with it in 2014. If someone believed it was all coaching, they would ask what was different, and it could be said that the difference was in the secondary where they were all of Leach's recruits.
I on the other hand believe several things. There was enough experienced talent left on the 2013 team to win with good coaching. They received good coaching and went bowling.
I also believe 2012's DB class was a disaster and it came back to bite the Cougs. I don't think without a pass rush in this conference you can play such inexperience DB's and not have break downs that cost you games. Unfortunately that is what transpired. I wish this time I would have been proven wrong in this case.
spoke about the lack of effort. And a select few players locally said the same thing about WSU after the Apple Cup. And in either case, neither have cred-which is the greater point
In in the case of lees talent, maybe that is the case. I recognize the fact Doba left so many D1 players that were recruited from 2005 to 2008, and left a huge list of committed players for the new staff to pick and choose from, but I do wish we could have taken the same talentless team from 2013 and won again with it in 2014. If someone believed it was all coaching, they would ask what was different, and it could be said that the difference was in the secondary where they were all of Leach's recruits.
I on the other hand believe several things. There was enough experienced talent left on the 2013 team to win with good coaching. They received good coaching and went bowling.
I also believe 2012's DB class was a disaster and it came back to bite the Cougs. I don't think without a pass rush in this conference you can play such inexperience DB's and not have break downs that cost you games. Unfortunately that is what transpired. I wish this time I would have been proven wrong in this case.
Re: What parallels....
Anyway, before we start talking about that Paul guy again. Defensive coordinators...
Re: Actually the comment was about how the Arizona players
Personally, I'd add more prominently a ST that gave up more than twice as many TD's as the next worst team in ALL DIVISION 1 football, and a kicker that made situational management a farce, along with the way our D would turtle when other parts of the team gave them adversity. And a bother to me that hasn't gotten enough discussion- with all the drops, and some of our "blowout games" having had Loftus and Baker take major snaps... why did Marks and Bartolone redshirt- those two would have won you another game too, probably?
But both of those issues should bear fruit, as it were, this year, as should the maturation of the young DB's.
Personally, I'd add more prominently a ST that gave up more than twice as many TD's as the next worst team in ALL DIVISION 1 football, and a kicker that made situational management a farce, along with the way our D would turtle when other parts of the team gave them adversity. And a bother to me that hasn't gotten enough discussion- with all the drops, and some of our "blowout games" having had Loftus and Baker take major snaps... why did Marks and Bartolone redshirt- those two would have won you another game too, probably?
But both of those issues should bear fruit, as it were, this year, as should the maturation of the young DB's.
If they all played I would totally agree with you
Which is in part my apprehension. White was hurt. Showed good things. Personally, I would move him to safety as I think he would be All Conference at that position.
But Hammeed for whatever the reason played behind Taylor. How much experience id he get. Taylor is a in the box linebacker. Not sure he is an every down player, but he is really exposed at safety.
Griffin played two games, he is now gone. Porter probably played two and was completely lost. And Brown is gone.
Yes, if they had a kicker they would have won four games. If they didn't drop a punt return, we would have won five. But our inability to cover anyone, and I mean anyone, is a huge concern. In the Oregon game Oregon did not have one TD that was defended. Not one.
Which is in part my apprehension. White was hurt. Showed good things. Personally, I would move him to safety as I think he would be All Conference at that position.
But Hammeed for whatever the reason played behind Taylor. How much experience id he get. Taylor is a in the box linebacker. Not sure he is an every down player, but he is really exposed at safety.
Griffin played two games, he is now gone. Porter probably played two and was completely lost. And Brown is gone.
Yes, if they had a kicker they would have won four games. If they didn't drop a punt return, we would have won five. But our inability to cover anyone, and I mean anyone, is a huge concern. In the Oregon game Oregon did not have one TD that was defended. Not one.
Re: If they all played I would totally agree with you
the kid is a true freshman, give him some slack
