Recruiting a month or two later

[chugspig]

Posed the question how this will effect WSU & Rolo. I stated Rolo and staff are/will be better recruiters than was Leach (without Wilson/Manning/Salavea). But I think the draw with Rolo is when you get to be near him and understand how authentic he is in caring and developing the person and how real he is. So as this carries on and recruiting is severely limited I think we will see a class that isn’t representative of the top end they could get here. Hopefully those effects don’t carry over into the next classes as those being recruited see what Rolo does in his first full year. Some bad luck for the staff to be limited the way they are now.

If Coley and the Kennedy trio commit, class could pick up momentum nicely.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Any new staff is trying to create relationships with kids that have been building relationships with other staffs for 2 or 3 years. It's a tough road unless they had already met some kids while at Hawaii.

You really just have to do the best you can and see what shakes out. Be in a position to capitalize when another school changes staffs or loses a position coach.

 

[longtimecoug]

Any new staff is trying to create relationships with kids that have been building relationships with other staffs for 2 or 3 years. It's a tough road unless they had already met some kids while at Hawaii.

You really just have to do the best you can and see what shakes out. Be in a position to capitalize when another school changes staffs or loses a position coach.

it appears that they are out there getting after players, but they re going to have to start beating out bigger programs than army and coastal carolina

 

[chugspig]

Looks like we might pick up another in that mold today longtime...

 

[etowncoug]

Looks like we might pick up another in that mold today longtime...

Only if we still want him. I don't see handing a spot to a kid with an offer sheet from NAU, Nevada, and Army.

 

[chugspig]

Looks like Banker recruited him, so I’d assume he’s coming in as a DB. Maybe grey shirt, who knows

 

[chugspig]

Looks like he chose UNR? Maybe as a walk on? Must of told him no thanks?

 

[PeteTheChop]

If Coley and the Kennedy trio commit, class could pick up momentum nicely.

From what Mikalas and others have reported, it's more "when" then "if" as far as the Kennedy Three going Crimson.

That'll be two 4 stars and one high-3 star which should do wonders for RoLo once the Pac-12 recruiting rankings are updated accordingly.

 

[BiggsCoug]

From what Mikalas and others have reported, it's more "when" then "if" as far as the Kennedy Three going Crimson.

That'll be two 4 stars and one high-3 star which should do wonders for RoLo once the Pac-12 recruiting rankings are updated accordingly.

That trio would be huge for instate recruiting and a great start to Rolo's tenure at WSU.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

That trio would be huge for instate recruiting and a great start to Rolo's tenure at WSU.

I'll be excited should this happen...but count me as a Doubting Thomas until it does. And that's not a slight at Rolo or the staff, it's just...teenagers and recruiting: unpredictable.

 

[PeteTheChop]

count me as a Doubting Thomas until it does

C.S.B, if you get a chance, search for the recent post by Mikalalas about why the K-3 are more likely to pick WSU than not.

It's an exhausting read for sure, but it's crammed with one theory after another.

You can tell there was a lot of thought given before it was posted.

 

[mikalalas]

C.S.B, if you get a chance, search for the recent post by Mikalalas about why the K-3 are more likely to pick WSU than not.

It's an exhausting read for sure, but it's crammed with one theory after another.

You can tell there was a lot of thought given before it was posted.

Well, I might be wrong, but only because I did not foresee Rolo still not having offered 3 star Shumpert.

I dont know why Rolo hasnt offered Shumpert.

He has to, or should know that if he Rolo offers Shumpert, he will at least get 2 of the 3, if not all 3, and likely at least Alexander/Shumpert(Tinae has been silent lately on WSU, and isnt, wont talk, is keeping his recruitment tight to vest, hasnt put a list up, etc)

But despite that, he hasnt offered Shumpert. And I dont think its something like him being privately told by Alexander/Tinae, that they won't go to WSU, even if he Rolo offers Shumpert.

I think it's more likely, some other reason. Maybe he Rolo just doesnt think Shumpert is a good enough player. Or maybe he thinks Shumpert is a problem recruit. Maybe he doesnt think its worth throwing away a scholly, even if it were to guarantee get him 2, 4 star WR's.

If it's me, I would have offered Shumpert by now. And I would have met, called, talked with the Trio, told them that they all 3 are getting official offers, and can play together at WSU, but that if they go elsewhere, Shumpert's offer gets pulled

At the very extreme minimum, I tell Shumpert, that offering him a preferred walk on, greyshirting him, and that I would help him find a good job, academic, etc scholarahips to pay for his 1st year, and that he could earn a athletic football scholly for his 2nd year, and that he could have the chance to earn a starting spot by year 2,3, and that if that didnt work out, that I would help him transfer, get a scholly at another college.

You'd think that Rolo would at lwast do that. Maybe he has, but we havent heard anything, but I doubt that.

Instead, he not only NOT offers Shumpert, but then he goes out and offers the 3.5 star WR that decommitted from USC(a pretty good WR, that just as good as the Kennedy Trio)

And if he gets the USC decommitted WR, that would make for 2,3 WR's in the recruiting class, which would make it so that not enough room for the Kennedy trio WR's.

And even if he doesnt get the USC decommitted WR, just offering him, might scare the Kennedy 3 away, because at 5,6 WR's in the class that would be too much competition.

And Rolo probably knows, or should know that offering the USC decommit WR, may be writing the kennedy trio off.

So why would he do that?

1. He has been told by credible source that he is not getting them.(Not likely)(All credible sources(including Shumpert, coaches, etc, say, show that WSU likely to land the trio as long as WSU offers Shumpert)

2. He doesnt think Shumpert is good enough

3. He isnt willing to throw away a scholly to get 2, 4 star WR.

4. He thinks Shumpert might be a problem.

If that's the case, then he Rolo knows that not offering Shumpert will lose him the other 2, and that he has to fall back on a plan B like offering the USC decommitted WR.

But even if that's the case, I think it would be pretty STUPID to NOT offer Shumpert, and thus Lose the other 2 WR.

And if that happens, that he loses the other 2, because he didnt offer Shumpert, when they would have gone to WSU had WSU offered him, if that leads to WSU not having enough WR talent, etc, that's on him.

I think Rolo is MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, not offering Shumpert.

And because Rolo is not, hasnt offered Shumpert, ao far, then Rolo has probably INCOMPETANTLY lost the Kennedy Trio, all because he STUPIDLY isnt offering Shumpert, or at least hasnt so far.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

C.S.B, if you get a chance, search for the recent post by Mikalalas about why the K-3 are more likely to pick WSU than not.

It's an exhausting read for sure, but it's crammed with one theory after another.

You can tell there was a lot of thought given before it was posted.

I've read it, and yes, there's a ton of thought and theory.

I still stand by my wait and see approach.

 

[PeteTheChop]

If it's me, I would have offered Shumpert by now. And I would have met, called, talked with the Trio, told them that they all 3 are getting official offers, and can play together at WSU, but that if they go elsewhere, Shumpert's offer gets pulled.

Mikalas, are you sure about this strategy?

Not sure how this would play with Mr. and Mrs. Shumpert, the JFK High School coach and the All-Star 7-on-7 adviser.

 

[PeteTheChop]

2. He doesnt think Shumpert is good enough

3. He isnt willing to throw away a scholly to get 2, 4 star WR.

4. He thinks Shumpert might be a problem.

"Throw away a scholly" ... not following what you're implying here?

Reed Shumpert is a well-publicized and well-respected receiver for one of the best-known passing attacks in West Coast HS football.

 

[mikalalas]

"Throw away a scholly" ... not following what you're implying here?

Reed Shumpert is a well-publicized and well-respected receiver for one of the best-known passing attacks in West Coast HS football.

Which only makes it more stupid,maddening that Rolo is seemingly stupidly hasn't offered Shumpert yet, and instead offered the 3.5 star USC decommitted WR, and that because of that, doesn't seem like he will offer Shumpert, and in so seemingly doing, is seemingly throwing away a extremely fantastic, awesome,etc, chance to get the other 2, 4 star WR.

Rolo had better dam well have a good dam reason for doing this.

If he doesn't, an or if this loses Alexander/Tinae, an or Rolo doesn't get at least the USC decomitted WR, an or if WSU lacks WR talent in future because of this, then this is on Rolo's head, and a FAILURE to take advantage of a extremely good opportunity to recruit high quality WA recruits.

Also it's one thing to at least try to get, go after the Kennedy Trio, and he does get credit for that. But refusing to, not offering Shumpert, and thus not trying to get the Kennedy Trio anymore is another thing, and a bad thing, and the wrong thing.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope that Rolo hasn't blown it. I hope that the trio will goto WSU despite Rolo not offering Shumpert. And I hope that if the Trio doesn't goto WSU,that Rolo/WSU still gets talented WR.

But now those hopes might not happen. And if so this is on Rolo.

 

[etowncoug]

Rolo is handling the situation perfectly. I'm not a believer in offering a kid because you want a couple of his teammates. We might take all three of them, we might get zero. But the last thing you want is to offer someone you don't believe in and have them commit only to have his buddies who you really wanted go somewhere else.

For now we need to keep the focus on Alexander and Tinae. Keep attention on Shumpert and see what his Sr film looks like. For now, his best offers are Army, Air Force and some FCS schools.

Which only makes it more stupid,maddening that Rolo is seemingly stupidly hasn't offered Shumpert yet, and instead offered the 3.5 star USC decommitted WR, and that because of that, doesn't seem like he will offer Shumpert, and in so seemingly doing, is seemingly throwing away a extremely fantastic, awesome,etc, chance to get the other 2, 4 star WR.

Rolo had better dam well have a good dam reason for doing this.

If he doesn't, an or if this loses Alexander/Tinae, an or Rolo doesn't get at least the USC decomitted WR, an or if WSU lacks WR talent in future because of this, then this is on Rolo's head, and a FAILURE to take advantage of a extremely good opportunity to recruit high quality WA recruits.

Also it's one thing to at least try to get, go after the Kennedy Trio, and he does get credit for that. But refusing to, not offering Shumpert, and thus not trying to get the Kennedy Trio anymore is another thing, and a bad thing, and the wrong thing.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope that Rolo hasn't blown it. I hope that the trio will goto WSU despite Rolo not offering Shumpert. And I hope that if the Trio doesn't goto WSU,that Rolo/WSU still gets talented WR.

But now those hopes might not happen. And if so this is on Rolo.

 

[PeteTheChop]

For now, his best offers are Army, Air Force and some FCS schools.

The national recruiting guy for Brand X recently declared Reed Shumpert a stone-cold "lock" to WSU.

Very encouraging development on the Kennedy Three front and aligns perfectly with what Mikeles has been reporting here the last several weeks.

 

[etowncoug]

The national recruiting guy for Brand X recently declared Reed Shumpert a stone-cold "lock" to WSU.

Very encouraging development on the Kennedy Three front and aligns perfectly with that Mikeles has been reporting here the last several weeks.

Yeah, Shumpert really wants the WSU offer. Question is, if his buddies go elsewhere is he worth the offer?

 

[mikalalas]

Rolo is handling the situation perfectly. I'm not a believer in offering a kid because you want a couple of his teammates. We might take all three of them, we might get zero. But the last thing you want is to offer someone you don't believe in and have them commit only to have his buddies who you really wanted go somewhere else.

For now we need to keep the focus on Alexander and Tinae. Keep attention on Shumpert and see what his Sr film looks like. For now, his best offers are Army, Air Force and some FCS schools.

If you offer Shumpert, and his buddies go elsewhere, you yank, take away his scholly, give it to another recruit, or if can't, and are stuck with him, you might be pleasantly surprised, because he is a 3, THREE STAR WR. He is still a 3 star, despite lack of offers, just like a no offer 4 star, is a 4 star. It's not like he is a 1,2 star, NR, big sky, mountain west kid, as that's 1,2 star territory. 3 Star is BSU of mountain west/P5, territory.

Also at WSU you have to take risk like this to get 4 star WR's. If your UW/USC, you don't have to take risk like this to get 4 stars. WSU is not a USC type, they have to take risk like this.

 

[mikalalas]

The national recruiting guy for Brand X recently declared Reed Shumpert a stone-cold "lock" to WSU.

Very encouraging development on the Kennedy Three front and aligns perfectly with what Mikeles has been reporting here the last several weeks.

Doesn't matter how much he wants to goto WSU. He can grovel, beg, etc, but if Rolo stupidly doesn't offer, the kid isn't going to goto WSU, unless he is a preferred walk on and gets the chance to earn a scholly, and gets help finding a job, to help pay for his education, until then.

And so far Rolo still hasn't offered the kid, and doesn't look lie he will offer him.

Like I said Rolo is BLOWING it

 

[mikalalas]

Yeah, Shumpert really wants the WSU offer. Question is, if his buddies go elsewhere is he worth the offer?

1. It's extremely likely(about a 85% chance), that at least 1 of either Alexander or Tinae, and about a 59% to 63% chance that both Alexander/Tinae goto WSU, IF IF IF Shumpert goes to WSU.

2. IF IF IF Alexander/Tinae were to weirdly go somewhere else DESPITE offering Shumpert, then you:

A. Pull, Yank, take away Shumpert's offer, and give it to another recruit.

B. If A is not possible, and if stuck with Shumpert, you might be pleasantly surprised, as Shumpert is a 3 star.

3. If don't offer Shumpert, you at least offer Shumpert a PREFERRED WALK ON OFFER, and a chance to EARN a scholly. And you also help Shumpert get a job to pay for education until earning the scholly. And you help him transfer, get a scholly at another college, to help Shumpert, if it doesnt work out.

You at least do that, at extreme minimum.

There is a lot at stake here, on why Shumpert should be offered.

1. You have to offer Shumpert to get Alexander/Tinae. If you don't offer Shumpert, then about 85% chance that Alexander/Tinae go elsewhere, vs the 85% chance they goto WSU, if you offer Shumpert.

2. Shumpert is a 3 star. 3 star is BSU/,mountain west/PAC 12/P5 level.

3. By getting the Trio, you BUILD THE KENNEDY PIPELINE, to probably get awesome recruits in the future, since Sheldon Cross, and Nolan Was, are the main coaches there.

And even if you only get Shumpert, that still builds the Pipeline there.

4. You are recruiting WA.

Considering the above, Shumpert needs to be offered. Not doing so will A. Lose all 3 of the trio. B. Loses the pipeline. C. Loses a great 3 star WR. D. Gives ammo to those who like Ford, who say that WSU doesn't recruit WA,which will destroy the future of recruiting WA. E. Will make it appear, seem like he Roll is going back on his word to recruit WA.

It's understandable not recruiting WA 1,2 stars, NR's, etc, but not recruiting, offering a key 3 star WA WR like Shumpert, is not understandable, especially since he Rolo has offered Kershaw, a 2 star(Shumpert is a 3 star, and better then Kershaw, but a 2 star gets a offer, over a 3 star)

Like I said, Rolo is BLOWING it, by STUPIDLY not offering a Key 3 star WR Shumpert, that would get 2, 4 star WR, if shumpert offered, and losing the 2, 4 star WR, if not offered, while Stupidly offering a 2 star, instead of not offering a 3 star.

 

[PeteTheChop]

1. It's extremely likely(about a 85% chance), that at least 1 of either Alexander or Tinae, and about a 59% to 63% chance that both Alexander/Tinae goto WSU, IF IF IF Shumpert goes to WSU.

2. IF IF IF Alexander/Tinae were to weirdly go somewhere else DESPITE offering Shumpert, then you:

A. Pull, Yank, take away Shumpert's offer, and give it to another recruit.

B. If A is not possible, and if stuck with Shumpert, you might be pleasantly surprised, as Shumpert is a 3 star.

3. If don't offer Shumpert, you at least offer Shumpert a PREFERRED WALK ON OFFER, and a chance to EARN a scholly. And you also help Shumpert get a job to pay for education until earning the scholly. And you help him transfer, get a scholly at another college, to help Shumpert, if it doesnt work out.

You at least do that, at extreme minimum.

There is a lot at stake here, on why Shumpert should be offered.

1. You have to offer Shumpert to get Alexander/Tinae. If you don't offer Shumpert, then about 85% chance that Alexander/Tinae go elsewhere, vs the 85% chance they goto WSU, if you offer Shumpert.

2. Shumpert is a 3 star. 3 star is BSU/,mountain west/PAC 12/P5 level.

3. By getting the Trio, you BUILD THE KENNEDY PIPELINE, to probably get awesome recruits in the future, since Sheldon Cross, and Nolan Was, are the main coaches there.

And even if you only get Shumpert, that still builds the Pipeline there.

4. You are recruiting WA.

Considering the above, Shumpert needs to be offered. Not doing so will A. Lose all 3 of the trio. B. Loses the pipeline. C. Loses a great 3 star WR. D. Gives ammo to those who like Ford, who say that WSU doesn't recruit WA,which will destroy the future of recruiting WA. E. Will make it appear, seem like he Roll is going back on his word to recruit WA.

It's understandable not recruiting WA 1,2 stars, NR's, etc, but not recruiting, offering a key 3 star WA WR like Shumpert, is not understandable, especially since he Rolo has offered Kershaw, a 2 star(Shumpert is a 3 star, and better then Kershaw, but a 2 star gets a offer, over a 3 star)

Like I said, Rolo is BLOWING it, by STUPIDLY not offering a Key 3 star WR Shumpert, that would get 2, 4 star WR, if shumpert offered, and losing the 2, 4 star WR, if not offered, while Stupidly offering a 2 star, instead of not offering a 3 star.

Not sure if you are on Scott Hood’s payroll, but you probably should be for your contributions.

Your posts are packed full of theories and percentages with a dash of opinion for good measure.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Like I said, Rolo is BLOWING it.

I don’t think we should underestimate RoLo just yet.

He comes across as a very sharp guy.

 

[chugspig]

1. SHUmPERt is a 3 start that if he was in Oregon or a DIFFERENT state around LESS wise receivers WHO ARE HIGH RANKED, he would probably be a high 3 star, 3.5-3.75 STAR nearing 4 STAR like his TEAMATES. This is because they are taking away all the TARGETS HE COULD GET. Thus is if the two 4 stars weren’t there He WOULD be a 3.5 - 4 STAR. Because of this he is being litely recruited and would be a STEAL for WSU as long as seal the deal with TINAE AND Alexander. I would say an OFFER TO SHUMPERt increases our chances of the other two by 33-44 %. And also gets us another 3.5-3.75star. THUS our tactic in recruiting THE TRIO is failing and bad RECRUITING. WE GET ALL THREE THATS another 10-11.75 STaRS. Increase our odds of winning pac12 by 10% just having those three PLAYMAKERS. GET UR HEA D OUT ROLO.

 

[etowncoug]

1. SHUmPERt is a 3 start that if he was in Oregon or a DIFFERENT state around LESS wise receivers WHO ARE HIGH RANKED, he would probably be a high 3 star, 3.5-3.75 STAR nearing 4 STAR like his TEAMATES. This is because they are taking away all the TARGETS HE COULD GET. Thus is if the two 4 stars weren’t there He WOULD be a 3.5 - 4 STAR. Because of this he is being litely recruited and would be a STEAL for WSU as long as seal the deal with TINAE AND Alexander. I would say an OFFER TO SHUMPERt increases our chances of the other two by 33-44 %. And also gets us another 3.5-3.75star. THUS our tactic in recruiting THE TRIO is failing and bad RECRUITING. WE GET ALL THREE THATS another 10-11.75 STaRS. Increase our odds of winning pac12 by 10% just having those three PLAYMAKERS. GET UR HEA D OUT ROLO.

Art.

 

[rufffrider]

1. SHUmPERt is a 3 start that if he was in Oregon or a DIFFERENT state around LESS wise receivers WHO ARE HIGH RANKED, he would probably be a high 3 star, 3.5-3.75 STAR nearing 4 STAR like his TEAMATES. This is because they are taking away all the TARGETS HE COULD GET. Thus is if the two 4 stars weren’t there He WOULD be a 3.5 - 4 STAR. Because of this he is being litely recruited and would be a STEAL for WSU as long as seal the deal with TINAE AND Alexander. I would say an OFFER TO SHUMPERt increases our chances of the other two by 33-44 %. And also gets us another 3.5-3.75star. THUS our tactic in recruiting THE TRIO is failing and bad RECRUITING. WE GET ALL THREE THATS another 10-11.75 STaRS. Increase our odds of winning pac12 by 10% just having those three PLAYMAKERS. GET UR HEA D OUT ROLO.

WOW! That is a thing of beauty!

 

[etowncoug]

A serious point on this. Rolo's already extended more offers this year than Leach did in year he was here. By close to 50 recorded offers and we are still 6 months from signing day. If any local wide receiver is a no brainier for a P5 offer, they'd have an offer in hand by now.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Rolo is handling the situation perfectly. I'm not a believer in offering a kid because you want a couple of his teammates. We might take all three of them, we might get zero. But the last thing you want is to offer someone you don't believe in and have them commit only to have his buddies who you really wanted go somewhere else.

For now we need to keep the focus on Alexander and Tinae. Keep attention on Shumpert and see what his Sr film looks like. For now, his best offers are Army, Air Force and some FCS schools.

I agree. The uw isnt taking kids to get their friends. SC isnt gonna take kids to get their friends. WSU should only be offering kids they feel can play.

 

[cr8zyncalif]

Just a thought on "the three" with absolutely no exhaustive analysis.

If I were handling the negotiation and I had 1 who really wanted my offer...likely the poorest fit of the three for what I wanted to do, but still a good player, and one for which I could certainly find a purpose...one way to approach the situation would be to make that kid my recruiter. Tell him that when he has the other two convinced, they will all be coming. Offer to be extended when announcement of the three is made. After all, there is no magic timing to an offer. The availability of an offer can be understood without being formally made. If anything, it could be played that the 3rd guy's offer was the most important of the three...because it was what brought the whole group together.

Just thinking...

 

[mikalalas]

Just a thought on "the three" with absolutely no exhaustive analysis.

If I were handling the negotiation and I had 1 who really wanted my offer...likely the poorest fit of the three for what I wanted to do, but still a good player, and one for which I could certainly find a purpose...one way to approach the situation would be to make that kid my recruiter. Tell him that when he has the other two convinced, they will all be coming. Offer to be extended when announcement of the three is made. After all, there is no magic timing to an offer. The availability of an offer can be understood without being formally made. If anything, it could be played that the 3rd guy's offer was the most important of the three...because it was what brought the whole group together.

Just thinking...

And if Rolo has done this, Shumpert/Alexander/Tinae, would likely have all 3 committed, and Shumpert Formally offered by now.

But it's likely that Rolo has not done that.

I suppose there is a extremely small chance that Rolo has done that, and that Alexander/Tinae are either undecided still, or decided against WSU, and that that's why Shumpert hasn't been offered, but that's not likely, and it, that would go against everything, what the players, families, coaches, experts, facts, logic, etc, have said.

The most likely scenario, is that Rolo hasn't done what your suggesting, and hasn't offered Shumpert, because he wrongly doesn't think a 3 THREE STAR WA WR, that loves WSU, that would get 2, 4 star WR, should get a offer, scholly over, like, instead of, etc, a 2 star Kershaw, etc. And so because of that, he Rolo won't offer Shumpert, even tho that means, losing Alexander/Tinae, losing the Kennedy Pipeline, losing recruiting WA, missing out on recruiting very high quality WA recruits, giving ammo to Ford, others, and seemingly going back on his word to recruit very high quality WA recruits like 3, 4 star WA recruits, and instead recruiting 2 star WA recruits like Kershaw, etc.

And he Rolo is probably doing that, it, because it's probably NOT his policy to offer a recruit that he doesn't think is worth a offer, even if they are 3,4 stars, etc, in order to get 4,5 star recruits, etc.

And so he will probably follow that bad policy, because its probably part of his policy, that he probably DOESNT CARE, if he loses Alexander/Tinae, Kennedy High, Future 3,4 star WA recruiting, and doesn't care if Ford, etc, uses this to label, paint Rolo/WSU, as not caring about recruiting WA 3,4 star recruits, etc.

He Rolo probably doesn't care about any of that.

He Rolo, is probably "Oh Well, at least I am sticking to my guns, policy".

And in that he is similar in at least that to Leach.

Leach: Us: "Leach, Run the dam ball, they are dropping 10 back".

Leach passes it again, even tho they dropped all 11 back.

Rolo: Me: "Rolo offer Shumpert, so that you get Alexander/Tinae."

Rolo: Doesn't Offer Shumpert

Alexander/Tinae: "We wanted to goto WSU, and would have gone to WSU, if Rolo, WSU had offered Shumpert, and we told Rolo, WSU, that, but they, Rolo/WSU, didn't offer Shumpert."

 

[WASH ST A&M FAN]

Mikalalas, you seem a bit too emotionally invested in this 1 kid.

I wonder why this is............

 

[rufffrider]

And if Rolo has done this, Shumpert/Alexander/Tinae, would likely have all 3 committed, and Shumpert Formally offered by now.

But it's likely that Rolo has not done that.

I suppose there is a extremely small chance that Rolo has done that, and that Alexander/Tinae are either undecided still, or decided against WSU, and that that's why Shumpert hasn't been offered, but that's not likely, and it, that would go against everything, what the players, families, coaches, experts, facts, logic, etc, have said.

The most likely scenario, is that Rolo hasn't done what your suggesting, and hasn't offered Shumpert, because he wrongly doesn't think a 3 THREE STAR WA WR, that loves WSU, that would get 2, 4 star WR, should get a offer, scholly over, like, instead of, etc, a 2 star Kershaw, etc. And so because of that, he Rolo won't offer Shumpert, even tho that means, losing Alexander/Tinae, losing the Kennedy Pipeline, losing recruiting WA, missing out on recruiting very high quality WA recruits, giving ammo to Ford, others, and seemingly going back on his word to recruit very high quality WA recruits like 3, 4 star WA recruits, and instead recruiting 2 star WA recruits like Kershaw, etc.

And he Rolo is probably doing that, it, because it's probably NOT his policy to offer a recruit that he doesn't think is worth a offer, even if they are 3,4 stars, etc, in order to get 4,5 star recruits, etc.

And so he will probably follow that bad policy, because its probably part of his policy, that he probably DOESNT CARE, if he loses Alexander/Tinae, Kennedy High, Future 3,4 star WA recruiting, and doesn't care if Ford, etc, uses this to label, paint Rolo/WSU, as not caring about recruiting WA 3,4 star recruits, etc.

He Rolo probably doesn't care about any of that.

He Rolo, is probably "Oh Well, at least I am sticking to my guns, policy".

And in that he is similar in at least that to Leach.

Leach: Us: "Leach, Run the dam ball, they are dropping 10 back".

Leach passes it again, even tho they dropped all 11 back.

Rolo: Me: "Rolo offer Shumpert, so that you get Alexander/Tinae."

Rolo: Doesn't Offer Shumpert

Alexander/Tinae: "We wanted to goto WSU, and would have gone to WSU, if Rolo, WSU had offered Shumpert, and we told Rolo, WSU, that, but they, Rolo/WSU, didn't offer Shumpert."

Mik -- You are extrapolating and projecting to make conclusions which WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY outdistance the information that's out there. Unless you have first-hand knowledge from the 3 athletes or the coaches recruiting them, your conclusions are guesswork (and negative guesswork at that).

 

[CougEd]

And if Rolo has done this, Shumpert/Alexander/Tinae, would likely have all 3 committed, and Shumpert Formally offered by now.

But it's likely that Rolo has not done that.

I suppose there is a extremely small chance that Rolo has done that, and that Alexander/Tinae are either undecided still, or decided against WSU, and that that's why Shumpert hasn't been offered, but that's not likely, and it, that would go against everything, what the players, families, coaches, experts, facts, logic, etc, have said.

The most likely scenario, is that Rolo hasn't done what your suggesting, and hasn't offered Shumpert, because he wrongly doesn't think a 3 THREE STAR WA WR, that loves WSU, that would get 2, 4 star WR, should get a offer, scholly over, like, instead of, etc, a 2 star Kershaw, etc. And so because of that, he Rolo won't offer Shumpert, even tho that means, losing Alexander/Tinae, losing the Kennedy Pipeline, losing recruiting WA, missing out on recruiting very high quality WA recruits, giving ammo to Ford, others, and seemingly going back on his word to recruit very high quality WA recruits like 3, 4 star WA recruits, and instead recruiting 2 star WA recruits like Kershaw, etc.

And he Rolo is probably doing that, it, because it's probably NOT his policy to offer a recruit that he doesn't think is worth a offer, even if they are 3,4 stars, etc, in order to get 4,5 star recruits, etc.

And so he will probably follow that bad policy, because its probably part of his policy, that he probably DOESNT CARE, if he loses Alexander/Tinae, Kennedy High, Future 3,4 star WA recruiting, and doesn't care if Ford, etc, uses this to label, paint Rolo/WSU, as not caring about recruiting WA 3,4 star recruits, etc.

He Rolo probably doesn't care about any of that.

He Rolo, is probably "Oh Well, at least I am sticking to my guns, policy".

And in that he is similar in at least that to Leach.

Leach: Us: "Leach, Run the dam ball, they are dropping 10 back".

Leach passes it again, even tho they dropped all 11 back.

Rolo: Me: "Rolo offer Shumpert, so that you get Alexander/Tinae."

Rolo: Doesn't Offer Shumpert

Alexander/Tinae: "We wanted to goto WSU, and would have gone to WSU, if Rolo, WSU had offered Shumpert, and we told Rolo, WSU, that, but they, Rolo/WSU, didn't offer Shumpert."

What does it mean likely, not likely, should, would? Other than being relative and having inside knowledge, how do you know what any 17 year old is thinking right now?

 

[etowncoug]

Mik -- You are extrapolating and projecting to make conclusions which WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY outdistance the information that's out there. Unless you have first-hand knowledge from the 3 athletes or the coaches recruiting them, your conclusions are guesswork (and negative guesswork at that).

That's sort of his schtick.

The entire theory falls apart if Tinae and Alexander didn't come up to Rolo and say they'll only commit to WSU if their buddy comes along only to be turned down.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Mikalas seems to be pretty confident in his sources to the point where he's essentially calling out RoLo for making a mistake, dragging his feet, flat-out bungling WSU's opportunity to sign two 4-star receivers and one 3-star that also would be a 4-star if his quarterback did a better job of spreading the football around.

 

[etowncoug]

Mikalas seems to be pretty confident in his sources to the point where he's essentially calling out RoLo for making a mistake, dragging his feet, flat-out bungling WSU's opportunity to sign two 4-star receivers and one 3-star that also would be a 4-star if his quarterback did a better job of spreading the football around.

He doesn't have sources. He's extrapolating based on publicly available info.

 

[fingerdisco]

He doesn't have sources. He's extrapolating based on publicly available info.

He has his own Deep Throat that’s feeding him the most accurate and timely top secret recruiting news that no one else is privy to

 

[PeteTheChop]

He has his own Deep Throat that’s feeding him the most accurate and timely top secret recruiting news that no one else is privy to

Entire media empires have been built on less.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Miksallklas,

Found out some more on Reid Shumpert from a friend who talks frequently with Shumpert’s 7-on-7 all-star coach.

The all-star coach said Shumpert is a top-notch, quality young man who will fit right into WSU’s winning culture that RoLo is maintaining.

Also, he said unlike some prospects we see these days, Shumpert isn’t on the lookout for a “better offer” so he can get that 4th star he deserves.

The quote as relayed to me: “The kid would turn down Pete Carroll and the Seahawks to play for the Cougs the next four years!”

That means no need to worry about any flip-flopping like the DB from Hawaii last year who ditched the Cougs for Stanford or the running back from Spokane who washed out in the pros.