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New WSU coach Jimmy Rogers won’t accept losing, from himself or his players​


Scott Hanson
The Seattle Times

Jan. 27, 2025 at 5:14 pm

Jimmy Rogers said he has never been through a rebuild and he has no plans to go through one now as Washington State’s new football coach.

Rogers, in Seattle this week to meet high school coaches and to do a media tour, said he expects success right away. He is not shy in saying the Cougars can someday win a national championship, even in this age of NIL money and the transfer portal, when other programs have a lot more money to spend.

“I just don’t want to even talk about accepting losing,” said Rogers, who never experienced a losing year in 19 seasons at South Dakota State as a player, assistant coach and head coach. “Why would anybody do that? I don’t want to hear accepting losing — like it’s OK for this to be a rebuild year. I’m not going to accept it out of myself, so why would I allow it from the players?”

Rogers has been quite busy since it was announced Dec. 28 that he had been hired as the coach. He has filled his coaching staff with his coaches from South Dakota State, convinced WSU players who had entered the transfer portal to change their mind, including quarterback Zevi Eckhaus, received several commitments from the transfer portal and has gotten 16 commitments from high school players.

Asked what has stood out in the first month, and Rogers was quick to mention how open WSU’s players were to new players coming in and to the new staff.

“They’ve been great, and I was kind of shocked by that, honestly,” Rogers said, “Our first team meeting was awesome. I was expecting a little bit more of a reserved nature and to be kind of almost scared. And they weren’t that at all. It was really open.”

Rogers took over as head coach of South Dakota State in 2023, replacing his mentor John Stiegelmeier, who had led the Jackrabbits to the FCS national title in 2022.

Rogers, who was promoted from his job as defensive coordinator, led South Dakota State to the national title in his first season, going 15-0. The Jackrabbits were 12-3 last season, losing in the semifinals.

You might think Rogers would have felt pressure taking over a team that won the national title the season before, and now again taking over at WSU, but you would be wrong.

“I don’t get too much into the pressure of things; this is football,” said Rogers, 37. “You’ve got to be confident in what you do, and as long as you know that you gave it your best, that’s all you can ask. … I don’t get caught up in other people’s emotions. I’ve got a job to do, and my job is to try to develop a football team, not just win over [the] fan base or be a fan favorite.

“I don’t care about those things. I care about the players in which I coach and staff in which I have the opportunity to work with, and that’s my focus.”

Rogers had one of the best quarterbacks in FCS the past two seasons at South Dakota State, Mark Gronowski, who is transferring to Iowa. But as successful as Gronowski was, the Jackrabbits ran the ball more than they threw it.

That’s because Rogers is a heavy believer in a strong running game, which will be a change for Cougar fans after many years of the Air Raid offense.

“It can’t be one dimensional,” Rogers said of the offense. “We’re going to create a balance and utilize our skill set. You can’t just live with one, otherwise the defense will find a way to take care of that.

“If you’ve watched the teams that have been competitive and won a national championship, they have had the ability to run the football, and part of that stems from you have to be able to run the football when it gets into December and January, when the weather gets colder. You play in unique places, and you don’t want to rely on weather to be the reason why you lose a game because you can’t throw the ball [in that weather].”

Rogers said that Eckhaus, who threw for 353 yards and accounted for four touchdowns (three passing) in WSU’s 52-35 loss to Syracuse in the Holiday Bowl, will be the presumed No. 1 quarterback heading into spring football.

“More than just watching him [in the Holiday Bowl], it’s been the overall collective response of the team and believing in Zevi,” Rogers said of Eckhaus, who starred for three seasons at Bryant, an FCS school, before transferring to WSU. “Every player has talked about him as a leader. Every player has talked about him as far as just his overall confidence in himself. And you can feel that when you talk to him. He’s a confident kid, and he’s got real confidence. So when your quarterback has that, and people around him believe in him, I think that’s half the battle.”

Asked if he has the resources at WSU to be a national title contender, Rogers answered by saying he has more money than he ever has had to work with. Keeping players will be key, something Rogers was successful at during his time at South Dakota State.

Rogers said many turned down six-figure offers to stay at South Dakota State, and he wants to get the same type of individuals to come to WSU.

“It takes relationships, and it takes a buy-in,” Rogers said. “It takes community, and it takes the former players coming back and wanting to be a part of something and being present. What I mean about being present is creating a former players association where players get back together and they go to golf tournaments and reconnect with former friends they took this journey with.

“I think those things are important. Because when your current team gets to see the former players experience lifelong relationships, it makes a difference in the long term, them wanting to be a part of something, and not just a short-term stint at one place and then the next.”

Scott Hanson: shanson@seattletimes.com.
 
Looks like you loser fans better get on board. Coach wont accept losing.

Time for you to leave and go cheer for another team to lose. That means you uberstupid, cuck90 and stupidgibbons.
 
Looks like you loser fans better get on board. Coach wont accept losing.

Time for you to leave and go cheer for another team to lose. That means you uberstupid, cuck90 and stupidgibbons.
Emotionally fragile leader of the Loyal/Biggs Brigade, I thought you had me on ignore 🤣
But, you read everything.
 
No more excusing 702 yards of offense given up.
No more explaining away 2-7 in league and pissing away a bowl game.
No more losing to 2-9 Wyoming and embracing bullshit excuses.

Take the train out of town with your excuse making low standards. I know, you wanna yell “next year!!!” as you board. No one cares. Not coach. Just leave. F’ing losers.
 
You were crying, like literal tears when you wrote this weren’t you. 😭

WSU is building a CFP team whether you like it or not. Time to get on board or GTFO
 
Finally a coach at WSU that is willing to have a bare minimum standard.

You need to leave uber. You’re a loser.
 
No more excusing 702 yards of offense given up.
No more explaining away 2-7 in league and pissing away a bowl game.
No more losing to 2-9 Wyoming and embracing bullshit excuses.

Take the train out of town with your excuse making low standards. I know, you wanna yell “next year!!!” as you board. No one cares. Not coach. Just leave. F’ing losers.
702 was just f*cking moronic.

But that Wyoming game angers me even more
 
Where did I leave my pom poms? Rah Rah!

Nice article. I'm glad CJR is full of sure of himself. Couple of comments.

CJR has never been through a rebuild. That's supposed to be a good thing? Shit these days every year is a rebuild. 2025 is no exception.

"Rogers said many turned down six-figure offers to stay at South Dakota State, and he wants to get the same type of individuals to come to WSU."

I simply don't believe that. Are we paying $100K per player for the 15 Jackrabbit transfers?

As stated before, I hope that WSU wins 9 games this year. I hope I will be coming on this board in November to say "Hey I was wrong".

You come from a program who had the same HC for 26 years. And you are going to walk into a program in major turmoil and will be competing for Natty's before we know it. Big talk.
 
Where did I leave my pom poms? Rah Rah!

Nice article. I'm glad CJR is full of sure of himself. Couple of comments.

CJR has never been through a rebuild. That's supposed to be a good thing? Shit these days every year is a rebuild. 2025 is no exception.

"Rogers said many turned down six-figure offers to stay at South Dakota State, and he wants to get the same type of individuals to come to WSU."

I simply don't believe that. Are we paying $100K per player for the 15 Jackrabbit transfers?

As stated before, I hope that WSU wins 9 games this year. I hope I will be coming on this board in November to say "Hey I was wrong".

You come from a program who had the same HC for 26 years. And you are going to walk into a program in major turmoil and will be competing for Natty's before we know it. Big talk.
Big talk he's gonna have to back up. When you put your goals and personal philosophy out there, you're kinda holding yourself to account.

My hope is this is his way of not taking anything for granted and staying in the moment...and hungry. Taihtsat
 
Where did I leave my pom poms? Rah Rah!

Nice article. I'm glad CJR is full of sure of himself. Couple of comments.

CJR has never been through a rebuild. That's supposed to be a good thing? Shit these days every year is a rebuild. 2025 is no exception.

"Rogers said many turned down six-figure offers to stay at South Dakota State, and he wants to get the same type of individuals to come to WSU."

I simply don't believe that. Are we paying $100K per player for the 15 Jackrabbit transfers?

As stated before, I hope that WSU wins 9 games this year. I hope I will be coming on this board in November to say "Hey I was wrong".

You come from a program who had the same HC for 26 years. And you are going to walk into a program in major turmoil and will be competing for Natty's before we know it. Big talk.

I'm not sure where he said we would be competing for Natty's before we know it.
 
Where did I leave my pom poms? Rah Rah!

Nice article. I'm glad CJR is full of sure of himself. Couple of comments.

CJR has never been through a rebuild. That's supposed to be a good thing? Shit these days every year is a rebuild. 2025 is no exception.

"Rogers said many turned down six-figure offers to stay at South Dakota State, and he wants to get the same type of individuals to come to WSU."

I simply don't believe that. Are we paying $100K per player for the 15 Jackrabbit transfers?

As stated before, I hope that WSU wins 9 games this year. I hope I will be coming on this board in November to say "Hey I was wrong".

You come from a program who had the same HC for 26 years. And you are going to walk into a program in major turmoil and will be competing for Natty's before we know it. Big talk.
I do believe you want the Cougars to win. I also believe you will get more enjoyment if the Cougars are awful than you would if they are good because you can tell everyone again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again,............., and again, how you were right.
 
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Finally a coach at WSU that is willing to have a bare minimum standard.

You need to leave uber. You’re a loser.
I was thinking that this coach sounds like your kind of guy. I like his approach. None of this awe shucks crap. Expect to win. Recruit linemen. Play defense. Coach fundamentals.
 
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Big talk he's gonna have to back up. When you put your goals and personal philosophy out there, you're kinda holding yourself to account.

My hope is this is his way of not taking anything for granted and staying in the moment...and hungry. Taihtsat
I like it. You're gonna get fired if you lose anyway, so come out swinging. SDSU won just about all of their games over the past decade plus. He should be cocky. He should be confident.
 
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I just pulled out some of the quotes:

“I just don’t want to even talk about accepting losing,” said Rogers, who never experienced a losing year in 19 seasons at South Dakota State as a player, assistant coach and head coach. “Why would anybody do that? I don’t want to hear accepting losing — like it’s OK for this to be a rebuild year. I’m not going to accept it out of myself, so why would I allow it from the players?”

“I don’t get too much into the pressure of things; this is football,” said Rogers, 37. “You’ve got to be confident in what you do, and as long as you know that you gave it your best, that’s all you can ask. … I don’t get caught up in other people’s emotions. I’ve got a job to do, and my job is to try to develop a football team, not just win over [the] fan base or be a fan favorite.

“It can’t be one dimensional,” Rogers said of the offense. “We’re going to create a balance and utilize our skill set. You can’t just live with one, otherwise the defense will find a way to take care of that.

“If you’ve watched the teams that have been competitive and won a national championship, they have had the ability to run the football, and part of that stems from you have to be able to run the football when it gets into December and January, when the weather gets colder. You play in unique places, and you don’t want to rely on weather to be the reason why you lose a game because you can’t throw the ball [in that weather].”
It also is implied, without a direct quote, that he said something to the effect of the Cougars someday being able to win a national championship, even in this age of NIL money and the transfer portal, when other programs have a lot more money to spend.

Especially given some of our particular experiences at WSU, how could anyone take issue with the points about expectations? Think about how he would have addressed any of these topics differently. You want a coach who comes in blaming his predecessor for leaving him with a likely rebuild? I don't see unwarranted cockiness here. I see a guy who has enough common sense to realize that if he doesn't believe they can win (or, at least, if he doesn't say he believes it) and he's more concerned about hedging and managing expectations, that's going to cut against what the team actually can achieve in multiple ways.

I also think the points about the offense are interesting in light of some of what we've been through. Again, it makes sense. He wants a team that is well-positioned to win all if its games, regardless of conditions. This is just common sense if you really want to build a program with the expectation of winning all of its games, especially late in the season.

No, this isn't claiming the team is going to win 10 games this year, that the hire is going to work out generally, that we're going to have massive success with all of these guys from FCS, or whatever other imaginary arguments someone wants to make. These just are good signs if we want any chance at more than an also-ran within the context of having hired the guy we did and having the roster and resources we do.
 
I just pulled out some of the quotes:


It also is implied, without a direct quote, that he said something to the effect of the Cougars someday being able to win a national championship, even in this age of NIL money and the transfer portal, when other programs have a lot more money to spend.

Especially given some of our particular experiences at WSU, how could anyone take issue with the points about expectations? Think about how he would have addressed any of these topics differently. You want a coach who comes in blaming his predecessor for leaving him with a likely rebuild? I don't see unwarranted cockiness here. I see a guy who has enough common sense to realize that if he doesn't believe they can win (or, at least, if he doesn't say he believes it) and he's more concerned about hedging and managing expectations, that's going to cut against what the team actually can achieve in multiple ways.

I also think the points about the offense are interesting in light of some of what we've been through. Again, it makes sense. He wants a team that is well-positioned to win all if its games, regardless of conditions. This is just common sense if you really want to build a program with the expectation of winning all of its games, especially late in the season.

No, this isn't claiming the team is going to win 10 games this year, that the hire is going to work out generally, that we're going to have massive success with all of these guys from FCS, or whatever other imaginary arguments someone wants to make. These just are good signs if we want any chance at more than an also-ran within the context of having hired the guy we did and having the roster and resources we do.
Good post. Don't agree with all of it, but no matter.

Read back through this interview and others and reflected (almost Tibetan monk-like as is the habit of the Mighty Loyal One) :) a bit. I do see unwarranted cockiness here. CML said " I believe we can win here and win big". CJR basically is saying "I've never lost, never had to rebuild, and don't plan to". Well you are going to be doing both this season mate.

Anyway, A little more humble, "hey WSU has taken some hits but we have great kids here and we expect great things" would make me like him a bit more.

But more importantly - I like the part about Zevi (duh) being the presumptive #1. Very happy to go into 2025 with a very experienced guy who has paid his dues in Pullman. And CJR making his status clear on Day 1.
 
Good post. Don't agree with all of it, but no matter.

Read back through this interview and others and reflected (almost Tibetan monk-like as is the habit of the Mighty Loyal One) :) a bit. I do see unwarranted cockiness here. CML said " I believe we can win here and win big". CJR basically is saying "I've never lost, never had to rebuild, and don't plan to". Well you are going to be doing both this season mate.

Anyway, A little more humble, "hey WSU has taken some hits but we have great kids here and we expect great things" would make me like him a bit more.

But more importantly - I like the part about Zevi (duh) being the presumptive #1. Very happy to go into 2025 with a very experienced guy who has paid his dues in Pullman. And CJR making his status clear on Day 1.
His comments about Zevi were the most revealing to me as well. It says a lot about his understanding that players play harder for things that they believe in. It also tells the players that he respects their judgement and feelings. It's a fine line to walk of course. You need to actually trust and respect their judgement and feelings for it to work. If the players' judgements and feelings are wrong, you have to know when to let them know.
 
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