Agree, but so many have zero respect for individual liberty and medical privacy. Your neighbor is trying to kill you, the tv said so.
Rolo Fired For Cause Reportedly
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This is a very good point. But the "vaccine" has become a power play to impose a ridiculous requirement on the entire populace even if an individual has antibodies. The "science" is irrelevant. This is about raw power and protecting politicians' jobs.
Inslee actually attended Ingraham HS in Seattle. Probably the worst of the north Seattle HS.
First 9 years in school were down in Burien/Highline.
So just a Seattleite for his Ingraham HS and last 3 years at UW.
I make my living practicing law, do you? What legal theories are you relying on. I would love Rolo to abandon his legitimate breach of contract claim, in favor of some nebulous and previously unestablished state right to employment for obvious reasons -- I root for WSU to win, not Rolo.
I haven’t suggested anything about Rolo’s defense. I’m not even talking legal specifics. I’m talking principles. If the Biden admin doesn’t think an outright mandate is a viable path—and if they could get away with it they would—then it seems the same principle should apply to Inslee’s admin. That’s my entire point. Don’t read more into it.
And, no, I am not a lawyer. But I don’t think I’m a total schmuck either. I’ve been a supporter of FedSoc and IJ for years. I’ve been reading Volokh since way before the WaPo takeover (glad they are free now). I’ve absorbed something over the years. I may not have the breadth you have, but I think I’ve grasped some fundamentals.
Well, congratulations to the Branch Covidians.
More than a century of shared memories, shared dorm rooms, alumni relationships, fall nights down Colorado, roommates still in touch after 50 years, team camaraderie, tailgating, singing the fight song together, and generations of faithful Cougars, all flushed down the toilet in 18 months to get the W for Team Blue.
Politics has invaded, and now triumphed over, sports; until recently, the last great refuge from the tidal wave of internecine hatred turning brother against brother and now alumnus against alumnus. I've never seen this kind of enmity and disunity on this board in posting and lurking for more than 20 years. This is truly a new - and worse - chapter in everything, with WSU Football fandom no exception.
I miss the days of squabbling over coaches and schemes - when we were united in our desire to see the team succeed - before it was decided that our fellow Cougs should lose their freedoms, livelihoods or even their lives over their enthusiasm for complying with shrieking tyrants. It's now clear that seeing the team succeed is no longer everyone's top priority.
I believe the last year and a half has been a sort of mass social experiment, and the people who failed (many on this board) must be absolutely thrilled that the people they were told to put in their crosshairs are gone, even if it means sending the team we all claim to love back to the Stone Age, perhaps never to climb back out of the Wulffian depths.
More than a century of shared memories, shared dorm rooms, alumni relationships, fall nights down Colorado, roommates still in touch after 50 years, team camaraderie, tailgating, singing the fight song together, and generations of faithful Cougars, all flushed down the toilet in 18 months to get the W for Team Blue.
Politics has invaded, and now triumphed over, sports; until recently, the last great refuge from the tidal wave of internecine hatred turning brother against brother and now alumnus against alumnus. I've never seen this kind of enmity and disunity on this board in posting and lurking for more than 20 years. This is truly a new - and worse - chapter in everything, with WSU Football fandom no exception.
I miss the days of squabbling over coaches and schemes - when we were united in our desire to see the team succeed - before it was decided that our fellow Cougs should lose their freedoms, livelihoods or even their lives over their enthusiasm for complying with shrieking tyrants. It's now clear that seeing the team succeed is no longer everyone's top priority.
I believe the last year and a half has been a sort of mass social experiment, and the people who failed (many on this board) must be absolutely thrilled that the people they were told to put in their crosshairs are gone, even if it means sending the team we all claim to love back to the Stone Age, perhaps never to climb back out of the Wulffian depths.
To summarize. Out is: Ricky Logo, John Richardson, Craig Stutzmann and Mark Weber.
Jake Dickert is our new interim Head Coach.
WSU is an agency of the state of Washington. WSU = State of Washington for all intents and purposes.
Violation of university policy is grounds for termination for cause (meaning no buyout). Whether the mandate violates the state or federal constitutions or other laws will be decided in court.
Theo about to climax from this shit.
WSU is bigger then the coach...sure. So this was for the players? No. Inslee mandate..yes. Doesn't seem like a lot of leeway for coaches so maybe Chun and Schultz had issue ... maybe? So as a fan for the university how does one choose to support the school? Blindly? I support the admin? The future of the program?
Well, congratulations to the Branch Covidians.
More than a century of shared memories, shared dorm rooms, alumni relationships, fall nights down Colorado, roommates still in touch after 50 years, team camaraderie, tailgating, singing the fight song together, and generations of faithful Cougars, all flushed down the toilet in 18 months to get the W for Team Blue.
Politics has invaded, and now triumphed over, sports; until recently, the last great refuge from the tidal wave of internecine hatred turning brother against brother and now alumnus against alumnus. I've never seen this kind of enmity and disunity on this board in posting and lurking for more than 20 years. This is truly a new - and worse - chapter in everything, with WSU Football fandom no exception.
I miss the days of squabbling over coaches and schemes - when we were united in our desire to see the team succeed - before it was decided that our fellow Cougs should lose their freedoms, livelihoods or even their lives over their enthusiasm for complying with shrieking tyrants. It's now clear that seeing the team succeed is no longer everyone's top priority.
I believe the last year and a half has been a sort of mass social experiment, and the people who failed (many on this board) must be absolutely thrilled that the people they were told to put in their crosshairs are gone, even if it means sending the team we all claim to love back to the Stone Age, perhaps never to climb back out of the Wulffian depths.
Chip, seriously that was brilliant.
I am disappointed but not surprised at those who mostly are on the "progressive" side of the political spectrum. They seem so gripped by fear from covid that they have lost their minds. They ignore allowing for basic individual risk assessments too. Weird.
Let's see how consistent they are in the coming years with influenza vaccines that have and will continue to kill tens of thousands each year. I'll be paying attention to their future self-righteous "save the world" posts about requiring everyone to get jabs and wear masks.
Finally, let's remember that the left always destroys everything it touches. College athletics was one of the last bastions where they haven't sunk their their dirty destructive tentacles into it and killed the joy of our camaraderie.
You mean like people who need florists and bakers? Can’t they just go elsewhere?
Rolo will be the plaintiff, he does not need legal defenses. Let's not forget that they used to allow "personal belief" and "religious" exceptions to school vaccine mandates -- then they did away with them, legally. So your basic premise is weak. The current state Covid religious except is nothing but political pandering, they could and should not have included it. They just didn't want to take extra heat from a large voting block, theists. If challenged it will be set aside, because if clearly favors "faith" based thinkers over people who insist on "evidence" People who insist on evidence aren't afforded their own "personal belief" exception to the mandate, and that is not equal protection. Remember, in theory our governments, state and federal, are secular. We fought a revolution not to have the equivalent of the Church of England.
Biden is limited by the Constitution, he is trying to use the commerce clause and related federal health and safety laws to get around that. The commerce clause is why the federal government is the dominant government, against the founders clear intent. However, the commerce clause has limits. For the federal government to have jurisdiction a state business must impact interstate commerce. That is why Biden can't tell Bob to get vaccinated, but can tell a business which uses interstate commerce that their employees must.
Cold.
Chip I totally agree. And disagreements go both ways. I have long said only another attack on US soil would bring us back to center, but I no longer believe that. I firmly believe if there was a red medic on a battle field he would save the republican soldiers on the battle field and if it was a blue medic, i would believe they would ask if they voted democreate and if the answer was no they would move to the next soldier. That is how divided we have become and only to get worse.Well, congratulations to the Branch Covidians.
More than a century of shared memories, shared dorm rooms, alumni relationships, fall nights down Colorado, roommates still in touch after 50 years, team camaraderie, tailgating, singing the fight song together, and generations of faithful Cougars, all flushed down the toilet in 18 months to get the W for Team Blue.
Politics has invaded, and now triumphed over, sports; until recently, the last great refuge from the tidal wave of internecine hatred turning brother against brother and now alumnus against alumnus. I've never seen this kind of enmity and disunity on this board in posting and lurking for more than 20 years. This is truly a new - and worse - chapter in everything, with WSU Football fandom no exception.
I miss the days of squabbling over coaches and schemes - when we were united in our desire to see the team succeed - before it was decided that our fellow Cougs should lose their freedoms, livelihoods or even their lives over their enthusiasm for complying with shrieking tyrants. It's now clear that seeing the team succeed is no longer everyone's top priority.
I believe the last year and a half has been a sort of mass social experiment, and the people who failed (many on this board) must be absolutely thrilled that the people they were told to put in their crosshairs are gone, even if it means sending the team we all claim to love back to the Stone Age, perhaps never to climb back out of the Wulffian depths.
The solution may be to divide up the country, the budget etc and have two countries. A union of sorts. And if Washington State was smart they would slice off the eastern part of the state and either let them join Idaho or have their own state. King, Pierce and Snohomish run the states and offer are counter to the residence of eastern washington, So to get their proper vote in I think a two state solution would work best.
But yeah I agree it is sad that the one thing that used to in a way bring us together shows the fracture in the state and country.
Yup. Rolo isn’t going to get a dime. Book it. But that’s not why he’s gone either, the last few weeks he was living up to what he was hired to do. This whole thing is so sad.
Public health decisions are not within federal authority, there's no mechanism for Biden to make a blanket mandate. States can, and local can issue them even more easily. Its enforcement that's the problem.
Yes...very sad.
Problem is that if we ever broke up into red and blue territories, the progressive religious cult blue states would attempt to take over the red states by force. They can't stop themselves.
The utopian drive fpr their moral imperatives always believes it should spread its religion to all. After all, it is doing others a "favor" by doing so.
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This wasn't a violation of university policy, it was a state mandate. The state chickened out and made the agencies come up with the details, and WSU interpreted it about as loosely as they could with regard to religious exemptions, and made it the same blind review process for everyone. Its going to be tough to show inequity in the evaluation, so the challenge needs to be against the state mandate...which again isn't WSU.
Existing case law supports the authority of the state to implement vaccine mandates, so unless the Supreme Court decides to reverse that precedent, any challenges will fail.
The only way Rolo gets a dime is if the state decides it's not worth defending and pays him out. But I think the strong odds are that WSU is released from the case, and any settlement doesn't come from their piggy bank.
No kidding. That guy has been obsessed with the jab and Rolo. It has been ridiculous.
Everything you said would be correct. WA is an at will employment state and the mutual agreement of employment can be terminated at any time by either party for any reason. Contractual terms would obviously apply and in this case, it most certainly is the case. If I were Rolo and wanted to file a civil lawsuit, I'd do it against the state on the terms of whether the mandate is even warranted. Using pre-vaccine employment activities and data sets that currently show efficacy rates of preventing infection and spread amongst vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Also, that the vaccinated are shown to have the necessary protections even if there is a disparity of spread rates from the unvaccinated to others. The point? Being vaccinated only holds one true advantage and that would be the lowered risk of hospitalization and/or death.
But...making that argument may undermine his case. Basically, in order to argue that he doesn't need vaccination he has to argue that it provides others with ample protection. So, I don't need the vaccine...because it works?
That's the whole point.... If it works at minimizing the risk of serious illness and/or death then the most vulnerable are protected. It doesn't prevent the spread of Covid or anyone from contracting it.
