Learn how to read dipshit. I clearly said I could give two F’s whether he gets a shot or not. You want to martyr a dogshit coach because he didn’t. This is a you problem.
Rolovich new job...
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Sacklers had immunity through bk court. So the doc who gave your kids the Polio vax and manufactures are liable . I see
You're getting so much built up anger right now...
I would suggest taking a chill pill or getting another Covid shot.
And again, Rolovich was not a horrible coach and he's got a lot of people behind him... backing him up.
You are posting like he was Paul Wulff.
Ms. Ed still has a bad case of Tee Dee Es. Too much estrogen in his system. He voted for the Female Party again, which is astonishing.
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I’m not mad at all. I’m happy he found a gig, he probably has value in a position like that.
Name another head coach who puked 38-0 second half’s twice in 11 games. He was bad. Paul Wulff is in his own category, pulling that out of your ass proves how bad you know he really was. You just can’t bring yourself to say it because he refused a vaccine which makes him a hero to you. For the third time, I don’t care about that. This is not a Trump thing or a R v D thing. None of that. This is a football thing. He couldn’t coach his way out of a box and he didn’t recruit. You’re the only one making this political.
Then I am 100% misreading where you're stating from.
Rolovich didn't get fired for wins and loses. He's 100% responsible for the winning season when he got fired.
The previous "covid" season shouldn't count on anyone's record. I don't think it's fair to fire a coach with any ounce of wins loses from Covid season.
If you're saying he's a shitty coach, I'm arguing with you that he didn't do a shitty job at Hawaii. He finished up on his last 2 seasons with 8 wins and then 10 wins. He had a bowl team at WSU... fired as of bring 4 & 3.
A shitty coach doesn't do that well.
Oh, I'll get right on that. Just for you. In the meantime, Google it and pick your reliable news source. Christ I linked Fox News out of a dozen news reports, isn't that reliable enough for you? I usually refrain from personal attacks and insults, so I won't call you an idiotic dipshit. Others can feel free to do so.
I did google it. The KIRO dude and a blogger were the only "sources" reporting it directly. None of them stated how they knew or where they got their information.
Is the statement from the WSP good enough for you? I guess the WSP doesn't actually say he died of COVID, but every news source believes the story. And don't forget the unvaccinated 38-year-old trooper (referenced to in the article) who the WSP did say died of COVID.
"According to FOX News, KIRO News Radio, Newsweek and other media sources, LaMay died after contracting COVID-19."
Wash. state trooper whose resignation over vaccine mandate went viral dies from COVID
Trooper Robert LaMay's took early retirement in October 2021 rather than get vaccinated
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But you be you buddy. I'm done with this stupid thread.
Hey man, go ahead a believe "the sources" because they always get it right, right?Is the statement from the WSP good enough for you? I guess the WSP doesn't actually say he died of COVID, but every news source believes the story. And don't forget the unvaccinated 38-year-old trooper (referenced to in the article) who the WSP did say died of COVID.
"According to FOX News, KIRO News Radio, Newsweek and other media sources, LaMay died after contracting COVID-19."
Wash. state trooper whose resignation over vaccine mandate went viral dies from COVID
Trooper Robert LaMay's took early retirement in October 2021 rather than get vaccinated
But you be you buddy. I'm done with this stupid thread.
They got fired after 3 winning seasons in a row at 2 different schools?
Huh...
Wonder why they'd agree
Cool, since you love these kind of coaches I think Willingham is still available!
I won't let this drop.
You comparing 0 and 12 Willingham who failed at Notre Dame and Fuw - to Rolovich is going to be the Top 10 stupid f*cking posts of all time.
How can you possibly put this on the same line to measure?
Give some points to how Rolovich and Willingham are the same.
How you are able to make other valid posts and then pull this sh*t is cray cray
Good to hear, will be interested to watch his trajectory over the next few years. A real man of principles that stood his ground when so many around him were bending over.
I agree with you on Stutzman. Rolo tried using a religious exemption, which flies in the face of having his kids vaxed so they could attend school years ago. They never said "mandated" or believed Gates was trying to put a chip in it way back when. He may have pulled it off if he didn't quote a bunch of conspiracy theories.
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Ok. They both had one good season basically. I’d say willingham had 2, he won the p12 and took Stanford to the RB and win 10 games his first year in ND. Rolo had one good year, when Hawaii won the MW before he was hired by WSU. That’s it. He was below average other than that.
Before their last stops as HC they were basically the same coach. Rolo was a .500 coach at Hawaii even with the 10 win season. Willingham was slightly above .500 at Furd and ND before UW hired him.
They were both a disaster at their last stops. Willingham culminating with 0-12, Rolo having 3 marvelous shit shows out of 11 games that I can recall with my terrible memory: getting outscored in the 2nd half twice 38-0 (again, tell me another coach, Paul Wulff excluded, who shit their pants that bad after half time in 2 out of 11 games…I’ll wait. To your credit since you want to make Wulff comparisons, most of those games were over by half time). #3. Putting in your third string QB inside the 5 yard line on a critical drive against Utah State at home. Think we all remember how that turned out.
Rolo was 5-6 at WSU including those spectacular crapfests. You like him because he refused a vaccine. I’m
calling him a shitty head coach because for WSU…he was a shitty head coach.
Don’t feel bad there’s still some Husky fans out there who like Willingham because he had fine upstanding young men and did things the right way.
Well that didn’t take long…let’s get back to drones and aliens. I have some extra time this week I’ll check on Bigfoot activity.
Thanks, 90. Always fun to talk about Bigfoot; it's actually a great topic for a WSU fan board. When Ivan Marx was living in Bossburg, sponsored by/writing for Argosy and other magazines as he searched for Bigfoot, my mom's first cousin lived almost next door to him. I was about 10 years old at the time, my dad subscribed to Argosy, and I thought it was all fascinating. I particularly liked my cousin's first hand stories of how Ivan spent his time and how many trucks, snowmobiles, etc., he bought with his sponsorship money. I then met my wife to be at WSU. She was an anthro student and had a couple of classes with Grover Krantz. Most of you probably know that Grover forever linked WSU to the search for Bigfoot; if you were not aware, he has a rather large Wiki entry that is an OK place to start.
As for the tinfoil hat crowd that told so many lies about vaccines in general and the covid vaccine in particular, they have always been with us. I suspect they will always be with us. Roughly half of our fellow citizens who died from covid did so after the vaccine became available. I will forever wonder how many of the half million or so who died after the vaccine became available would have lived, had enough of their fellow citizens gotten vaccinated when it became possible to do so. I guess we will never know for sure.
And as for Rolo now working at Cal, I find the irony of that specific campus being his new home to be worth a smile.
As for the tinfoil hat crowd that told so many lies about vaccines in general and the covid vaccine in particular, they have always been with us. I suspect they will always be with us. Roughly half of our fellow citizens who died from covid did so after the vaccine became available. I will forever wonder how many of the half million or so who died after the vaccine became available would have lived, had enough of their fellow citizens gotten vaccinated when it became possible to do so. I guess we will never know for sure.
And as for Rolo now working at Cal, I find the irony of that specific campus being his new home to be worth a smile.
My sister in law’s sister and brother in law were both hospitalized with Covid for weeks. Dude didn’t make it, her sister did. Late 40s. In good health. My SIL still claims the “treatment” they received killed him, not the virus itself. These people live among us. Its wild.
This is a pretty good summary of the situation with Rolovich although I wouldn't say that Rolovich was a shitty head coach. I'd say that he was overwhelmingly average. He didn't really get a fair shake because of COVID just ruining everything, but there is nothing out there that suggests that he was going to be great for us. His recruiting classes were in the 50's and 60's and most of his top ranked recruits ended up being busts for us. When you look at Massey ratings, Rolovich went 0-5 against teams ranked in the Top 50. Dickert has gone 6-14 against teams ranked in Massey's Top 50. For all of the fact that people like to say, "Rolovich won 10 games at Hawaii"....it's important to remember that he had 15 games that season and Hawaii went 0-4 against Top 50 teams that year. That team's best win was over 7-6 BYU.
Rolovich was the kind of coach who was going to peak at 8 or 9 wins at WSU and if not for COVID, which frankly, isn't that bad for WSU coaches that didn't get hired away the moment that they had success. He would likely have been fine if not for the COVID debacle but anyone objective looks at his record and what's happened since he left WSU and it's clear that the world does not view him as a great coach.
Nearly a dozen people that I knew died or nearly died from COVID. It's weird that we hear that it was the treatment that killed people...but it's the only illness that people claim that to be the case.
2 seperate parties here...
1) I measure coaches more over recent history vs. ancient history. Like Ernie Kent was "lucky" at Oregon, but all show. He didn't know shit about x's and o's. He was losing because he's a loser. We picked him up after he proved he was a loser.
With Rolovich vs. Willingham and others who sucked ass... he had 3 winning seasons on his last 3 seasons. Don't count covid year that had fake rosters, games, practices, etc...
You're grabbing shit years which would put Mike Price in the loser category. Leach as well.
This is a debate that's fine and acceptable.
2) His stance against the Covid vaccine is something I supported 100%. I got my shots to help my kids continue in sports and for my wife and I to travel/cruise. I was basically forced into it to stop from taking away from my family.
I watched a person lose 1/2 his heart from that f*cking vaccine requirement. Proven and stated by his doctors without question.
Whether it's anti-abortion or health/safety... making the shot required was a joke. Everyone in Florida, Texas, Idaho, etc... should've died and they didn't.
To HATE Rolovich because of not wanting to get a shot is just weird and sad.
Remember... Rolovich was right for his beliefs, but also right that the shots should've never been forced upon anyone.
This is a debate where not 1 f*cking person in this country can say it was right to FORCE shots. The proof is in the numbers and the reality.
Mostly true, although the medical- science-denial-wellness folk emerging today are beginning to question cancer treatments and are hinting chemo is more dangerous than other alternative treatments. That's all I have to say about that.
For what it's worth, I view the combination of Rolo as head coach with Stutzman calling plays (maybe even with Smith, but definitely with Stutzman), and Dickert as DC, was a demonstrably better staff than Dickert as HC with any of the DCs or OCs he has had to work with. This wasn't because Rolo was a great coach, or because I disagree with your take as to Rolo's likely ceiling at WSU, but instead because he had Dickert as a solid DC. Dickert barely even had the resume to be a legitimate P5 DC, let alone a HC, but he was solid and ambitious and should have done relatively well in that role. Nobody else was hiring him as HC and he probably could have had some solid years at DC before getting poached as a DC or leaving for a MAC school or something like that as a HC. The R&S probably would have worked at least as well as what we've seen on offense, assuming someone under Rolo would prioritize the OL. None of this is pining for Rolo, BTW. Just a take on how he would have done and a relative take vis-a-vis Dickert.
This is a fair assessment. It’s certainly not a perfect comparison. Bottom line he wasn’t some rock star before WSU and he had some massive red flags in his limited time at WSU. The moments I mentioned were real issues and unlike the leach gaffes which were few over 8 years of steady success, I can comfortably say 1/3 of rolos games were nothing short of train wrecks. As I’ve said multiple times I could care less about his Covid views my take is 100% football driven and I saw a guy who cashed in and checked out.
“To HATE Rolovich because of not wanting to get a shot is just weird and sad.”
Couldn’t agree more with you, that’s not my position at all. And I don’t hate the guy, I actually liked the hire at first and enjoyed his approach with fans..,come have a beer w me, etc.
Over time I just saw the football red flags and was pretty confident it wasn’t the hire we hoped it would be.
The same way you can’t understand the hate for him, I can’t understand the love for him as a football coach BECAUSE he refused to take the vaccine. You can want him to sue and win for an injustice and still recognize his coaching ability was in question.
FWIW he hasn’t been a head coach since, so there’s plenty of “smart people” who don’t want to hire him 🤷
Just for the record, I made a tin foil hat (well, really, it was aluminum foil) and wore it to get my first shot. Seemed appropriate somehow.
Cancer treatments are certainly the one area where the treatment is widely known to be traumatic. My dad died of small cell lung cancer in 2016 and we refused to have them treat him because we knew that he was so weak that the treatment could kill him just as quick as the cancer but far more painfully. He died two days later very peacefully and we didn't regret the decision for one minute.
My brother did have chemo and radiation treatment for his cancer and despite all of the difficult side effects, he's still alive six years later even though the doctors only gave him six months to live originally. So....the whole cancer thing is pretty complicated....just like everything else.
Well, the reality is that the primary treatments for cancer are both killing all of your cells, but when it works it’s killing the cancer faster. And in spite of decades of research, those are still the most reliable methods we have.
