Satellite Camps

[Coug95man2]

So big topic, Biggs brought it up a while back and I'm guessing this is where he was hoping the topic would go. It seems Satellite Camps could be heading out, about the time they really start hitting their stride.

It seems the Pac 12 Conference is looking into "combines" hosted by the conference, in different regional areas in order to make the political quagmire of the satellite camps go away. I like it! Like Scott says in the article linked below, devil is in the details. Like, is it invite only for the recruits? Obviously location for the regional combine will become a hot topic, i.e. here in WA. Of course UW will want it in their back yard. Will that matter to WSU? Those details will be interesting to watch. But overall, I like the ideas. As long as the PAC itself staffs and is in charge of each combine. When a specific school starts getting leeway on certain things, that's what will become the rub. If the PAC wants to do this, they better insure that these combines remain VERY "down the middle". Anything that could even remotely be perceived as favoritism to one school, and it'll kill the whole concept.

BUT I think this also forwards the conference, as a whole, for the recruits in the West. It certainly will make the SEC and others look like old farts stuck in their ways.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ggests-regional-combines-for-college-football

 

[Flatlandcoug]

So big topic, Biggs brought it up a while back and I'm guessing this is where he was hoping the topic would go. It seems Satellite Camps could be heading out, about the time they really start hitting their stride.

It seems the Pac 12 Conference is looking into "combines" hosted by the conference, in different regional areas in order to make the political quagmire of the satellite camps go away. I like it! Like Scott says in the article linked below, devil is in the details. Like, is it invite only for the recruits? Obviously location for the regional combine will become a hot topic, i.e. here in WA. Of course UW will want it in their back yard. Will that matter to WSU? Those details will be interesting to watch. But overall, I like the ideas. As long as the PAC itself staffs and is in charge of each combine. When a specific school starts getting leeway on certain things, that's what will become the rub. If the PAC wants to do this, they better insure that these combines remain VERY "down the middle". Anything that could even remotely be perceived as favoritism to one school, and it'll kill the whole concept.

BUT I think this also forwards the conference, as a whole, for the recruits in the West. It certainly will make the SEC and others look like old farts stuck in their ways.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ggests-regional-combines-for-college-football

It's great when you see the schools that have always had the built-in advantages get twitchy when they start to lose them. The regional camps are better than nothing, but this is not that far from USC telling WSU that if we want to play the Trojans, the closest that they will come is Portland.

 

[Coug95man2]

It's great when you see the schools that have always had the built-in advantages get twitchy when they start to lose them. The regional camps are better than nothing, but this is not that far from USC telling WSU that if we want to play the Trojans, the closest that they will come is Portland.

I think that's the "devil in the details" part. If the regional camp is in Yakima or Ellensberg (geographically the middle of the two WA schools) OK. Bellevue? Not so much. The only regional up north for OR and WA being at Springfield (just across the freeway from Eugene for those that don't get the reference), you gotta be kidding. So this could really be a good thing, this could really be a bad thing. The idea is to be a good thing… I think.

 

[GoldenCoug]

I could see the Pac having maybe 4 of these Combine Camps.

1) One for the Pac NW. Rotate it between the Puget Sound area one year and Portland the next year.

2) Nor Cal find a neutral location

3) So Cal also a neutral location

4) Las Vegas to accomodate the AZ and Utah and possibly Colorado kids.

You are right if any school gets to have too much direct involvement running one of these it will not work.

If they can only have 2 camps I would say have one in California and the other in the Pac NW

 

[wazzubruce]

The PNW camp could alternate between Seattle, Spokane and Portland.

 

[wulffui]

I'd rather just do what they're doing- this seems like a concession to the "city mouse" programs that, "no, we won't have WSU or OSU coming to run their own LA camps- not without you there."

 

[Coug95man2]

I'd rather just do what they're doing- this seems like a concession to the "city mouse" programs that, "no, we won't have WSU or OSU coming to run their own LA camps- not without you there."

Good point. Are schools like WSU whom currently are at 5 or 6 satellite camps in CA, getting better dividends that what this would do? More one-on-one time with a recruit that otherwise wouldn't happen, that stuff that the USC's and UCLA's get on a regular basis

I'd love someone to ask the coaches about this one… CML would really be the one to clarify which he perceives to be better for WSU. Biggs, since you brought this up a while back, what's your thoughts?

 

[dgibbons]

So big topic, Biggs brought it up a while back and I'm guessing this is where he was hoping the topic would go. It seems Satellite Camps could be heading out, about the time they really start hitting their stride.

It seems the Pac 12 Conference is looking into "combines" hosted by the conference, in different regional areas in order to make the political quagmire of the satellite camps go away. I like it! Like Scott says in the article linked below, devil is in the details. Like, is it invite only for the recruits? Obviously location for the regional combine will become a hot topic, i.e. here in WA. Of course UW will want it in their back yard. Will that matter to WSU? Those details will be interesting to watch. But overall, I like the ideas. As long as the PAC itself staffs and is in charge of each combine. When a specific school starts getting leeway on certain things, that's what will become the rub. If the PAC wants to do this, they better insure that these combines remain VERY "down the middle". Anything that could even remotely be perceived as favoritism to one school, and it'll kill the whole concept.

BUT I think this also forwards the conference, as a whole, for the recruits in the West. It certainly will make the SEC and others look like old farts stuck in their ways.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ggests-regional-combines-for-college-football

I think it's fair to say- back to combines. The coaches used to be able to go the Nike camps and similar events that happened during the summer. "Hosting" by the conference is an interesting idea- I take hosting to mean that the combines will be located within the Pac-12 footprint and that only Pac-12 coaches can attend.

 

[chinookpirate]

Conference camps might help attract players with sponsors to subsidize costs encouraging good turnout.

 

[95coug]

So big topic, Biggs brought it up a while back and I'm guessing this is where he was hoping the topic would go. It seems Satellite Camps could be heading out, about the time they really start hitting their stride.

It seems the Pac 12 Conference is looking into "combines" hosted by the conference, in different regional areas in order to make the political quagmire of the satellite camps go away. I like it! Like Scott says in the article linked below, devil is in the details. Like, is it invite only for the recruits? Obviously location for the regional combine will become a hot topic, i.e. here in WA. Of course UW will want it in their back yard. Will that matter to WSU? Those details will be interesting to watch. But overall, I like the ideas. As long as the PAC itself staffs and is in charge of each combine. When a specific school starts getting leeway on certain things, that's what will become the rub. If the PAC wants to do this, they better insure that these combines remain VERY "down the middle". Anything that could even remotely be perceived as favoritism to one school, and it'll kill the whole concept.

BUT I think this also forwards the conference, as a whole, for the recruits in the West. It certainly will make the SEC and others look like old farts stuck in their ways.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/25176661/pac-12-suggests-regional-combines-for-college-football

Interesting idea, but it seems to me that this is going to look different from region to region, simply due to the number of recruits and geography.

For example, Washington, Oregon, and Idaho don't generate many recruits. Based on the RIvals listing, I see 25 kids between the 3 states that signed with BCS schools. 17 of them were from Washington. There are only 92 kids listed in the Rivals recruiting between the 3 states. California and Texas had more kids who signed with BCS schools (189 and 206) than the northwest states had in the recruiting lists. So, the numbers in the northwest don't really justify than maybe 1 or 2 combines total. You could do a half dozen each in California and Texas. How many kids can a coach really look at per combine?

Then consider geography. From just about anywhere in Washington, you could be in Yakima in 4 hours or less. In Oregon, you could be in Bend. In Texas, Abilene is central, and it takes 6 hours to get there from all corners.

Far more likely, I think, that there will be no more than 2 northwest regional combines - Boise and Seattle one year, Portland and Spokane the next. There won't be one in Yakima, Ellensburg, or Bend, because coaches outside the area aren't going to come to them. California and Texas will have 4-6 each. Coaches will have to pick and choose which ones they go to.