Scheduling Ole Miss is basically saying "we are throwing in the towel the CFP..."

[Loyal Coug1]

Some Ole Miss team that loses to historically SHETTY Arkansas, and ALMOST lost to, and only beat SHETTY Kentucky, 20 to 17.

Ole Miss is going to lose 1,2,3 more games, and be 7-5 at worst, 8-4, 9-3 at average, 10-2 at best.

Ole Miss will definitely not be going to the CFP, this season, and next season, Ole Miss probably will be 5-7, 6-5, 7-5 at best, because lose a SHET ton to graduation, transfer portal, and won't have a QB.

Then after that SHET year, Kiffin on hot seat, fired again next season when Ole Miss shet again.

And your point is what?

 

[CougSinceBirth]

Some Ole Miss team that loses to historically SHETTY Arkansas, and ALMOST lost to, and only beat SHETTY Kentucky, 20 to 17.

Ole Miss is going to lose 1,2,3 more games, and be 7-5 at worst, 8-4, 9-3 at average, 10-2 at best.

Ole Miss will definitely not be going to the CFP, this season, and next season, Ole Miss probably will be 5-7, 6-5, 7-5 at best, because lose a SHET ton to graduation, transfer portal, and won't have a QB.

Then after that SHET year, Kiffin on hot seat, fired again next season when Ole Miss shet again.

Lol, Ole Miss will make noise as long as Kiffin is there, and will likely be a perennial CFP team.

This isn't douchebag Hugh Freeze's Ole Miss.

 

[COUGinNCW]

Cal and Stanford should be our top choices. 1 in Pullman, 1 in the Bay. Try to get them for home and homes.

I’m totally fine with playing OSU twice. Play the second game in Seattle if you can’t get Notre Dame to play there.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Cal and Stanford should be our top choices. 1 in Pullman, 1 in the Bay. Try to get them for home and homes.

I’m totally fine with playing OSU twice. Play the second game in Seattle if you can’t get Notre Dame to play there.

Gawd. Cal's 2025 schedule is full. Stanford has one opening (maybe 2 since they play Hawaii at Hawaii on Aug23 - which I believe gives them the option for a 13th game). They have 5 home games scheduled, so they will be looking for a home game.

Would you guys, as 95 did earlier, do a little research once in a while?

 

[COUGinNCW]

Swap SMU for Cal. I’d looked up 3 of them and forgot which schools had openings.

Cal in 26-27 would be a good home and home.

 

[425cougfan]

Fair enough. I was wrong about their recent record and past performance. Of course I didn't look it up, but just felt, (really their image) that Ole Miss was off the radar this past decade, and I was wrong. Thanks.

No prob. My only other ask is that you stop embarrassing us with this “USC of the Pac-12” bullshit.

 

[roses04]

Yes, there some teams with open dates, however all of those open date are in the first 6 weeks of the season, filling up the last 6 weeks is the big problem. I don’t know Anne McCoy, and felt WSU should have done search, but if she finds a way to fill up the schedule with 12 reasonably attractive games, I’ll give her a lot of credit. The 7 game schedule right now has nice balance, if she can find a similar balance in 5 more games I say great job Anne!

I guess time will tell.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

This. We knew that we'd have scheduling challenges during the transition years. IMHO, we have to play at least one really relevant OOC game each year. This is a relevant game. Will we be underdogs? Of course. My biggest question is whether we are being paid properly for making this trip. Details remain to be revealed.

100% we're not being paid enough to compensate for all of the expenses AND the loss.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Geezus, stop with the home and homes.

Shit ain't gonna happen. How many G5 teams do you see hosting Wisconsin and TxTech?

Like it or not, we are back to being a "cupcake" on other teams' schedules and whoring the team out for $$. And lest you think we are the scrappy little contender who might land a miracle punch, go look at the freshmen on the roster; there are 4 WRs under 5'9", going somewhere in the mid 160's. We already dropped like 10+ (can't remember) recruiting rankings.

As far as a competitive continuity vis a vis the P4, that is a fight we are losing.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

100% we're not being paid enough to compensate for all of the expenses AND the loss.

Geezus, stop with the home and homes.

Shit ain't gonna happen. How many G5 teams do you see hosting Wisconsin and TxTech?

Like it or not, we are back to being a "cupcake" on other teams' schedules and whoring the team out for $$. And lest you think we are the scrappy little contender who might land a miracle punch, go look at the freshmen on the roster; there are 4 WRs under 5'9", going somewhere in the mid 160's. We already dropped like 10+ (can't remember) recruiting rankings.

As far as a competitive continuity vis a vis the P4, that is a fight we are losing.

No prob. My only other ask is that you stop embarrassing us with this “USC of the Pac-12” bullshit.

In reverse order. Since USC is currently in a 3-way tie for 12th in the B1G, I don't want to be compared to them. or UCLA, currently in 18th place.

2025 is going to be a mess. We need to take what we can get. I'd rather have to fly across the country multiple times than pick up a bunch of FCS teams. UConn and UMass are definite late season possibilities, and the payouts will/would be - well - not much given their lack of prominence, fans and viewers. Just lock them up and take our lumps. At least those games are very winnable.

I'm sure we will get at least a million for Ole Miss. Should be more like $1.6M seeing as how that is what Ole Miss is paying for their Sun Belt and Conference USA matchups this year. Even FCS Furman gets $500,000. At least it is better than the cool million we are paying for each of our MW games this year (home AND away). And it is BS that Anne McCoy didn't/won't tell us what we are getting. And that the conference won't shed any light on what the realignment has cost so far.

Finally, is it too early for me to start saying "I told you so" with regard to the reverse merger?

And edit - looking at Ole Miss and the rest of the SEC and other Eastern conferences' OOC schedules, they have it easy. The Sun Belt, Conference USA, the MAC, the mid-lower part of the AAC. Bus trips for a lot of those nearby schools. Not to mention all the FCS teams. Out West? Not so much. Even most of our MW foes are quite a ways away. Hmmm, somehow this translates into another "I told you so" regarding the reverse merger.

 

[95coug]

Yes, there some teams with open dates, however all of those open date are in the first 6 weeks of the season, filling up the last 6 weeks is the big problem. I don’t know Anne McCoy, and felt WSU should have done search, but if she finds a way to fill up the schedule with 12 reasonably attractive games, I’ll give her a lot of credit. The 7 game schedule right now has nice balance, if she can find a similar balance in 5 more games I say great job Anne!

I guess time will tell.

The teams I listed mostly had games scheduled in the first 6 weeks, with late season openings. Some weren't real clear when their open dates are, but I don't have the phone numbers for their ADs...or the time to check.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

The teams I listed mostly had games scheduled in the first 6 weeks, with late season openings. Some weren't real clear when their open dates are, but I don't have the phone numbers for their ADs...or the time to check.

In other words you are useless.........

 

[95coug]

In other words you are useless.........

Except that with 10 minutes of research, I debunked the "there's nobody with openings on their schedule in 2025" claim

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Except that with 10 minutes of research, I debunked the "there's nobody with openings on their schedule in 2025" claim

Hey I gave you props for your research. I was just kidding about you being useless. Note the smiley face. And no one (certainly not me) has claimed that there was "nobody" with openings in 2025.

I will reiterate that WSU needs to get the 2025 schedule in order ASAP. Before the season ends and the portal opens, and before the signing day(s). Coaches need to know what they are offering current players and prospective recruits (HS and Portal) in terms of schedule. And WSU (OSU as well) need to know how the money looks so we know what kind of financial shape the Pac-2 is in (aka our league distributions for 2025 as we attempt to proceed on the realignment front.

 

[95coug]

Hey I gave you props for your research. I was just kidding about you being useless. Note the smiley face. And no one (certainly not me) has claimed that there was "nobody" with openings in 2025.

I will reiterate that WSU needs to get the 2025 schedule in order ASAP. Before the season ends and the portal opens, and before the signing day(s). Coaches need to know what they are offering current players and prospective recruits (HS and Portal) in terms of schedule. And WSU (OSU as well) need to know how the money looks so we know what kind of financial shape the Pac-2 is in (aka our league distributions for 2025 as we attempt to proceed on the realignment front.

I know. I see and completely understand what everyone says (except when it's hidden in contradictory, jumbled, partially, completely, mostly, totally incomprehensible word salad), I just don't always answer.

I'm actually surprised at the number of teams who have openings for next year still. I thought schedules were typically filled a couple seasons in advance. It's not like there's been anything unusual in the last few years...

 

[Cougini5591]

In reverse order. Since USC is currently in a 3-way tie for 12th in the B1G, I don't want to be compared to them. or UCLA, currently in 18th place.

2025 is going to be a mess. We need to take what we can get. I'd rather have to fly across the country multiple times than pick up a bunch of FCS teams. UConn and UMass are definite late season possibilities, and the payouts will/would be - well - not much given their lack of prominence, fans and viewers. Just lock them up and take our lumps. At least those games are very winnable.

I'm sure we will get at least a million for Ole Miss. Should be more like $1.6M seeing as how that is what Ole Miss is paying for their Sun Belt and Conference USA matchups this year. Even FCS Furman gets $500,000. At least it is better than the cool million we are paying for each of our MW games this year (home AND away). And it is BS that Anne McCoy didn't/won't tell us what we are getting. And that the conference won't shed any light on what the realignment has cost so far.

Finally, is it too early for me to start saying "I told you so" with regard to the reverse merger?

And edit - looking at Ole Miss and the rest of the SEC and other Eastern conferences' OOC schedules, they have it easy. The Sun Belt, Conference USA, the MAC, the mid-lower part of the AAC. Bus trips for a lot of those nearby schools. Not to mention all the FCS teams. Out West? Not so much. Even most of our MW foes are quite a ways away. Hmmm, somehow this translates into another "I told you so" regarding the reverse merger.

Agree on the do what we gotta do if it comes to schools like UMass/UConn.

1) Games we can win

2) Games we can make money on

3) Games for fewer injuries

4) Games for positive attention


Play guys like UCLA because they are just getting over sex changes.

Hit the East Coast if we can win (even set possible exchanges)

But winning comes first. Money comes 2nd.

That and F*ck the Schools who f*cked us.

 

[cougarhawk1]

I don’t have any problem with it, should insist on home and home. Ole miss loses a lot this year. If they lose Kiffin that program Will crater. Look at Mississippi State, possibly the worst team in the country.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Ok, here's some maybe good news coming our way (2025 schedule-wise). I doubt we will jumping for joy, but I might rise up to my tiptoes if it is decent. And nice reference to the Auburn bar episode....

Cougfan - WSU Cougars Football Recruiting

Stay up to date with all the Washington State Cougars sports news, recruiting, transfers, and more at 247Sports.com

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Washington State University Fans Deplete Beer Supply At Auburn Bar, Declare Moral Victory

Washington State University fans depleted an Auburn bar out of their entire beer selection three hours before closing time on Friday night.

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[425cougfan]

I don’t have any problem with it, should insist on home and home. Ole miss loses a lot this year. If they lose Kiffin that program Will crater. Look at Mississippi State, possibly the worst team in the country.

The deal isn't for a home-and-home, and there's no way to insist on that now (or, when it comes to any SEC programs, more generally).

I agree that Ole Miss' current position owes mainly to Kiffin, and that they'll take a hit if they lose him. But it won't necessarily be a big one, especially right away. Actually watch its game this weekend, at least briefly, as much as I hate to encourage anyone to watch the SEC. There are some absolute monsters on that squad.

Mississippi State being so terrible owes significantly to its bad decision to have Arnett take over as the permanent head coach after Leach. He was brutal. Then they hired another unproven coordinator in Lebby. Three head coaches in three years. Not a sure thing Ole Miss nails Kiffin's replacement, and a string of bad coaches would kill them too, but they'd have a lot of money from his buyout and more generally, and they are unlikely to screw around with a bad internal coordinator promotion like Mississippi State did.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

The deal isn't for a home-and-home, and there's no way to insist on that now (or, when it comes to any SEC programs, more generally).

I agree that Ole Miss' current position owes mainly to Kiffin, and that they'll take a hit if they lose him. But it won't necessarily be a big one, especially right away. Actually watch its game this weekend, at least briefly, as much as I hate to encourage anyone to watch the SEC. There are some absolute monsters on that squad.

Mississippi State being so terrible owes significantly to its bad decision to have Arnett take over as the permanent head coach after Leach. He was brutal. Then they hired another unproven coordinator in Lebby. Three head coaches in three years. Not a sure thing Ole Miss nails Kiffin's replacement, and a string of bad coaches would kill them too, but they'd have a lot of money from his buyout and more generally, and they are unlikely to screw around with a bad internal coordinator promotion like Mississippi State did.

You know last time the Cougs faced Kiffin (USC in 2013), we beat him?

 

[Cougini5591]

You know last time the Cougs faced Kiffin (USC in 2013), we beat him?

His offense was retarded.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

His offense was retarded.

Oh 5591. You know better than that. The proper term is "a mental disability" or "an intellectual disability". Perhaps you should consort with more broad-minded and kinder folk. The Diety-Like Loyal One for instance. .

Back to topic, I am really nervously excited to see these new 2025 opponents. $5 says Stanford is one. Another $5 says UConn or Umass. But the other 3? As I've said before, I would rather play a bunch of away games against P4 teams than bring in a bunch of FCS teams.

 

[UberCougars]

Hey I gave you props for your research. I was just kidding about you being useless. Note the smiley face. And no one (certainly not me) has claimed that there was "nobody" with openings in 2025.

I will reiterate that WSU needs to get the 2025 schedule in order ASAP. Before the season ends and the portal opens, and before the signing day(s). Coaches need to know what they are offering current players and prospective recruits (HS and Portal) in terms of schedule. And WSU (OSU as well) need to know how the money looks so we know what kind of financial shape the Pac-2 is in (aka our league distributions for 2025 as we attempt to proceed on the realignment front.

So you’re saying that if you were a coach, you would approach recruiting your way instead of the way our coaches are approaching recruiting.

 

[Wazzubrooz]

I’m perfectly fine with playing MS on the road,but only if they make a return trip to Pullman. Otherwise I’d say no thanks.

 

[Cougini5591]

Oh 5591. You know better than that. The proper term is "a mental disability" or "an intellectual disability". Perhaps you should consort with more broad-minded and kinder folk. The Diety-Like Loyal One for instance. .

Back to topic, I am really nervously excited to see these new 2025 opponents. $5 says Stanford is one. Another $5 says UConn or Umass. But the other 3? As I've said before, I would rather play a bunch of away games against P4 teams than bring in a bunch of FCS teams.

Ruffling feathers about using the word retarded is the definition of retarded.

However... fUsc's offense in that 2013 was a live display of retarded.

Washington State 10-7 USC (Sep 7, 2013) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the Washington State Cougars vs. USC Trojans NCAAF game, final score 10-7, from September 7, 2013 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[cougarhawk1]

The deal isn't for a home-and-home, and there's no way to insist on that now (or, when it comes to any SEC programs, more generally).

I agree that Ole Miss' current position owes mainly to Kiffin, and that they'll take a hit if they lose him. But it won't necessarily be a big one, especially right away. Actually watch its game this weekend, at least briefly, as much as I hate to encourage anyone to watch the SEC. There are some absolute monsters on that squad.

Mississippi State being so terrible owes significantly to its bad decision to have Arnett take over as the permanent head coach after Leach. He was brutal. Then they hired another unproven coordinator in Lebby. Three head coaches in three years. Not a sure thing Ole Miss nails Kiffin's replacement, and a string of bad coaches would kill them too, but they'd have a lot of money from his buyout and more generally, and they are unlikely to screw around with a bad internal coordinator promotion like Mississippi State did.

That program is screwed. They deserve it, really trashy fan base. Lol, they won’t recover.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

I’m at a conference in Dallas and spent a while talking with some Mississippi State grads. We will have a lot of adopted fans on the day against Ole Miss. There was one Ole Miss grad in the group and he said that they are going to see a lot of drop off next year and will be very dependent on the portal. We talked about Leach and the MSU folks said that losing him the way that they did has been absolutely devastating for their program. Trying to replace their coach while they had an interim AD was a hot mess apparently.

 

[cougarhawk1]

I’m at a conference in Dallas and spent a while talking with some Mississippi State grads. We will have a lot of adopted fans on the day against Ole Miss. There was one Ole Miss grad in the group and he said that they are going to see a lot of drop off next year and will be very dependent on the portal. We talked about Leach and the MSU folks said that losing him the way that they did has been absolutely devastating for their program. Trying to replace their coach while they had an interim AD was a hot mess apparently.

Apparently with no AD in place a group of boosters took over and drove the program off a cliff. They don’t have the financial ability to rebuild and have made bad hire after bad hire after bad hire. Recipe for fail.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

I’m at a conference in Dallas and spent a while talking with some Mississippi State grads. We will have a lot of adopted fans on the day against Ole Miss. There was one Ole Miss grad in the group and he said that they are going to see a lot of drop off next year and will be very dependent on the portal. We talked about Leach and the MSU folks said that losing him the way that they did has been absolutely devastating for their program. Trying to replace their coach while they had an interim AD was a hot mess apparently.

Ole Miss has former UA head of marketing Walker Jones running their robust NIL, they're in a good place to always bring players in, especially as long as Kiffin stays around.