SCOTUS shoots down AA -sports impact?
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What precedent do you think will be set? Of course athletes get preferential treatment. So do legacy parents, other big donors, and people who know someone.
There aren't any clear guidelines as to what should constitute the basis for admission. Schools can say what their requirements are but schools that get more applications that fit there requirements than there are seats have enormous room to maneuver.
There aren't any clear guidelines as to what should constitute the basis for admission. Schools can say what their requirements are but schools that get more applications that fit there requirements than there are seats have enormous room to maneuver.
But musicians and artists will major in music or art. Talented basketball players won’t (officially) major in basketball so they are theoretically taking an admissions spot in a program from someone more qualified.
You'd might be right, if admissions were based on entirely objective factors and demonstrated skills in declared and intended majors. I'm just explaining how 90% on football and basketball recruits are admitted to NCAA schools, most with test and grades well below that of qualified candidates, and it isn't race based. If race was the factor, all white or asian athletes with sub par grades and test scores (normal for athletes) would be denied. If Johnny can play ball, he is generally admitted if meets the minimum admission standard, regardless on race.
We will see how this all plays out. It sounds like schools are choosing to continue their admissions process as they see fit.
Taking "special treatment" out of the equation is pretty much an impossible ask unless humans aren't involved in the admissions process. Maybe that's the next step?
My reading of the opinion boils down to this- colleges cannot have a box where an applicant checks white, black, Hispanic, etc.
It's completely fine for colleges to request an essay along the lines of "Tell us how you have overcome adversity."
I've never understood this essay BS. And who exactly judges these essays? Having been in Higher Ed for many, many years, I wouldn't trust 90% of my former colleagues to judge a pie contest, let alone college essays. WTF happened to your HS GPA and SAT score as qualifiers, without all this other crap? Of course when I came to WSU a pulse and your knuckles not scraping the ground could get you in.
As far as eliminating race info, that is important data. Fine to say they can't use it to determine admission, but collecting the data matters.
That’s a tough essay for my kids to write. Other than the pandemic, struggles with WiFi or having to eat Papa Murphy’s too often are about as much adversity as they’ve faced.
Most (maybe all) colleges don't require a standardized test score anymore, starting with the pandemic. For the Honors College at WSU, they look at AP test scores.
Or at least that's what my daughter tells me.
IHEs have been moving away from or de-emphasizing them for a while, and the pandemic really pushed them over the edge. I’m told that they’re really not a good predictor of who will perform in college. That’s pretty easy to believe, since there’s a whole industry built around test strategy and how to game the scoring.
Higher Ed, despite its many attributes. including research, is a F-ed up bureaucrat mess. F-ing lifer administrators that never had a real (private sector) job in their lives. Just keep getting your taxpayer funded raises. F-ing useless professors teaching BS. I mean hey, my degree was Business/Accounting, and I learned a lot of good stuff that has served me forever. Good Profs. But all that Liberal Arts BS? F that. Hell I remember snorting coke off my desk in class while the prof was droning on about some BS. Some Liberal Arts class.
Preaching to the choir. Most schools - including WSU - spend way too much resources on programs that make “well rounded students” who can’t get a job because they never learned anything useful. Most of the LA degrees will let you do one of 3 things: get a graduate degree and a low-paying research position, get a teaching certificate and a low-paying K-12 job, or wait tables/bartend.
Actually, there’s one more: get a pH.D and become faculty or administration.
