So what’s the consensus on
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UW is already ahead of us. Their win doesn’t hurt, and if they have 10 wins and a top 10 ranking our loss to them doesn’t look as bad.
Utah is behind us. Decent chance they would not move ahead of us with a win, but they’d still get the Rose. That puts us one more spot away from the NY6. Our benefit of beating them is watered down by the fact that it was 2 months ago.
We have very little chance regardless, but whatever scenario strengthens our schedule more has to be preferred. I think that means a UW win.
But, if Texas or Northwestern pulls the upset, our faint hopes disappear. I would not be surprised if Texas pulls it off.
Our only chance is if the jackasses that put Florida, Ped State, and LSU ahead of us reconsider their position. Not likely, these aren’t the type of people that easily admit they are wrong.
May as well have UW win and guarantee(?) our spot in Alamo.
If Utah wins, I fear Redbox or Sun awaits.
If Utah wins, I fear Redbox or Sun awaits.
As 95coug says, we need the mutts to win if we care about the NY6. We need Clemson to destroy Pitt, OU to squeak by Texas and Ohio State to destroy Northwestern. Texas sneaks into the NY6 if OU makes the playoff because the Big 12 is guaranteed a team in the Sugar Bowl. We need Ohio State to make the playoff at this point. Long story short......unless the CFP committee has a major change of heart, we are going to San Antonio.
I've read conflicting scenarios for what's best for the Cougs. If Utah wins, it makes our win vs. them more impressive. That probably outweighs a UW victory that makes our loss to the Huskies less bad. I really don't know....I just know it's always hard to root for the Huskies, even when it might benefit the Cougs. And given the comments of Lake & some of the players after the AC...it's even tougher to root for Dawgs.
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I’m going to double down on this - we need the mitts to blow out Utah. I mean really embarrass them. The better UW looks, the easier our loss is to stomach...and the less attractive Utah will be to the Alamo bowl people.
Also, just as insurance, we need Cal to beat Stanford. Otherwise Stanford can also be considered for the Alamo. I don’t really think they would be, but Cal may as well eliminate them. A Stanford loss also guarantees we can’t fall past the Holiday, if the Alamo takes Utah.
This 1000%.
Saved me from making a separate thread to say this. Everyone needs to come to grips that the die was cast on Tuesday when they put those teams ahead of us. There is zero percent chance they go back on their decision and get egg on their face.
The real question is whether it not Chun and Leach will light them up in the press after we get snubbed after there are 3 and 4 loss teams in NY6 bowls.
9-4.... yes, that’s the correct scenario. Under no circumstance do we want UW to win. Utah is our best win, we need them to beat UW.
Utah is our best win. A UW win hurts us because it diminishes our only top 25 win. Also, need Clemson to give Pitt a beat down.
I thought about this overnight and I’ve come to grips with the fact that it doesn’t matter who wins the PAC-12 championship game so we might as well root for the Utes.
Utah winning would knock UW out of the Top 12 and move us up a spot. As mentioned above, it gives additional weight to our win against the Utes and gives creedance to the notion that the snow was a big factor.
We still need the other games to play out as I said above and the committee to reverse course as mentioned by others above.
I still feel good about the Alamo if we go there.
Utah winning would knock UW out of the Top 12 and move us up a spot. As mentioned above, it gives additional weight to our win against the Utes and gives creedance to the notion that the snow was a big factor.
We still need the other games to play out as I said above and the committee to reverse course as mentioned by others above.
I still feel good about the Alamo if we go there.
The critical point is that the committee needs to move us ahead of Penn State. Clemson beating up Pitt might help with that. If that doesn’t happen, we won’t get an NY6 game no matter who wins the PAC-12.
Consider this though: the Alamo bowl is much more likely to pass us up to take UW than they are to take Utah over us. A Utah win, especially coupled with a Stanford win over Cal, might drop us all the way to Redbox.
I feel like that's a gamble I'm willing to take for the possibility of the Fiesta.
The Red Box would be disappointing, but it would almost be funny more than anything else. If there were evera an indictment on how poorly the PAC is perceived, that would be it.
I don’t think it’s that far fetched. They’ll have the choice between us and UW - who will have 9 wins, just played in a conference championship, just beat us, and brings a much larger market.
If they take UW, Holiday picks next. Their choices are us and Stanford. Key point here is we’ve been to the Holiday 2 years running and laid an egg both times. There might well be an interest in trying someone new...and their other option is a team within a day’s drive.
Redbox would have no choice if we fell that far, but would be miserably disappointing for our fans.
Agreed on perception.
Because a team that no one picked to finish higher than 11th in the P12 (which was asinine to begin with), putting egg on the face of all the "experts", then the P12 must be garbage and down this year, because there is no possible way WSU could have the best record in the conference.
I would find no mirth, ironic or otherwise, in getting dropped to the RedSnapper bowl. Considering what they've accomplished under the conditions they accomplished them in, they deserve no less than a NY6. Since that won't happen, they at least deserve the next best available, the Alamo.
Right now I just don't want the Cougs to play in the Sun Bowl and another monster snow storm.
Even if they go to a lesser bowl they can put 50 points on anyone, move up in the polls and get that 11th win (first time in school history).
Even if they go to a lesser bowl they can put 50 points on anyone, move up in the polls and get that 11th win (first time in school history).
I still feel good about the Alamo Bowl because of the Mike Leach factor. Texas Tech is not in a bowl this year and there are thousands of Tech fans that would think about going to San Antonio for a game coached by Leach. As I said a few weeks ago, I talked with a Tech fan who said that there are a lot of WSU flags in Lubbock these days. Combine that with the storyline of two Heisman candidate QB's facing off, the probability of an exciting high scoring game (assuming it's WSU vs West Virginia here) and Minshew's story in general, WSU is definitely one of the more interesting stories out there.
It would be fascinating to see what would happen if it comes down to us and Stanford for the Holiday Bowl. Stanford fans are notoriously unsupportive of their team. Last year, Stanford was in the Alamo Bowl and it was the lowest attended game in 7 years. We didn't shock the world with our huge turnout (or lack thereof) to the Holiday Bowl last year. If Stanford was 9-3 this year, I'd be surprised if the Holiday Bowl didn't pick Stanford. At 8-4 vs 10-2 for WSU, it's going to be a little harder to feel good about bypassing us for the Cardinal. Hope it doesn't come to that decision needing to be made.
I’m not sure they bring a larger market. Lots of folks in Texas would be watching because of Leach and there would be more than a few attending as well. Outside of SEATTLE nobody gives a rats ass about UW...and most people in Seattle aren’t going to think much about the Alamo Bowl when they thought they were going to be playing Bama before the season started.
Much more exciting team, Heisman candidate, best story in CFB this year. Alamo Bowl would be stupid to take UW over WSU. But then again Ped State, Fla, and LSU are all ranked above us so those in the CFB world seem to have a penchant for doing stupid things.
My thoughts exactly.
Don't forget, it was Utah's AD that tweeted support for WSU's cause. Don't think I saw that from any other AD or, of course, the Pac-12 commissioner.
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You're in luck. There is no possible way for the Cougs to play in the Sun Bowl this year.
SI's bowl projections...
https://www.si.com/college-football...ns-predictions-playoff-schedule-announcements
https://www.si.com/college-football...ns-predictions-playoff-schedule-announcements
I am with you. I really want to fly to SF and walk into Larry Scott's office just so I can tell him what a piece of sh!t he is. He is so bad for our conference and its affecting us now.
It’s affected us the last 4 years. 2015 McAffrey fumble was the actual highlight. We’re just finding out now. Our glory years have been modified in favor of an agenda.
If WSU falls to the Redbox, WSU should either try to beat whoever the other team is 100 to 0, then after game, after get ranked Top 11, should CRUCIFY the Pac 12, Bowls, Alamo, Holiday, the CFP rankings, CFP, CFP committee, etc, by Leach, Chun, Schultz, All over in every media, in the court of public opinion
OR
WSU should just decline the Redbox bowl, and stay home.
A 10-2 WSU playing in the Redbox Bowl would be like a 9-3 team playing in the Idaho Potato Bowl, or the Humanitarian or Cheez It Bowl.
It would be a Freaking Humiliating Joke.
So Decline it, make a point, humiliate, shame, crucify the system in public.
So that it never ever happens to WSU ir anyone else ever again.
True......... I hope to hell he gets exposed. His leadership isn't even worth the toilet paper he wipes his ass with.
I'll make a deal with you. If you root for the Cougars in their bowl game, I'll root for Utah tonight.
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