A lot of smoke that we’ve landed on Jimmy Rogers from South Dakota State. Defensive coach. Won the FCS natty last year. 27-3 record. Very young (37). Hire would be in line with our hoops coach David Riley.
Sounds like it’s Jimmy Rogers.
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Sources: WSU set to hire SDSU's Rogers as coach
Washington State is set to hire South Dakota State's Jimmy Rogers to be its next head coach, with a deal expected to be finalized soon, sources told ESPN.
Bring experienced / intelligent players.
We need to be 50% proven OLDER players and 25% projects then get the last 25% of 1-year wonders.
Spend the money on the Dline... Oline... Linebacker
We can do this!
We need to be 50% proven OLDER players and 25% projects then get the last 25% of 1-year wonders.
Spend the money on the Dline... Oline... Linebacker
We can do this!
Fine with the age. I think in this ridiculous environment that's actually a plus. I like that's he's been a head coach. There's no substitute understanding the demands.
I don't like that's he's a defensive coach but if he can hire a good OC and stay out of it then it could be a nice mix.
I don't like that's he's a defensive coach but if he can hire a good OC and stay out of it then it could be a nice mix.
I'm not sure why some are critizing this pick (if it happens, and I mean him choosing our dumpster fire, not us being uppity and passing on him). He's exactly the type of coach we'll need moving forward, as he has to turn horseshit into gold. He's obviously got some coaching talent, as the low-level kids he recruited at SDSU were able to successfully execute his system.
Hate to say it, but we're now closer to SDSU in terms of atheletics than we are to 99% of FBS schools...hiring up-and-comers like Rogers is simply the only play.
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We’re just gonna have to do it with 26 fewer scholarships than any of our competitors.
Good hire.
I don't hate this. BUT:
- He has been at his alma mater, SDSU, almost his entire career. Spent one year as a grad asst. at FAU along the way
- He is in his second year as a HC.
- The Jackrabbits are perennial FCS playoff participants, runners up in 2020 and champs in 2022. So repeating in 2023 in his first year after being an asst. for 10 years isn't all that surprising
- Of the Dakota/Montana schools, he is probably the least enticing. I'd rather have Bobby Hauck from Montana, who despite failing at UNLV (who didn't?) has been a HC for 19 years. And beat the mutts in 2021. Oh and he's making $265K. AND, since he is 60 and has stuck with Montana (and seen success) since 2018, he's a helluva lot more likely to stick around and probably close out his career here
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You realize we have money right? I'm a donor... aren't you?
It's not like this head coach has a Jim Tressel type of FCS résumé...
2 years as a HC...if that was truly a qualification of need for the job, okay...I guess? Hasn't really left SDSU system outside of a year as a GA at FAU. I personally would hope for someone with a more diverse portfolio, but I guess when you don't offer a ton of $$$ for a coach, this is probably one of the better options.
Color me whelmed. I would say Schulz and McCoy better hope they nailed this hire, but both probably won't be around to deal with the consequences should this go south. WSU as a whole better hope this is a home run hire, as the margins are razor thin and if this doesn't hit, it's very bad for the university.
2 years as a HC...if that was truly a qualification of need for the job, okay...I guess? Hasn't really left SDSU system outside of a year as a GA at FAU. I personally would hope for someone with a more diverse portfolio, but I guess when you don't offer a ton of $$$ for a coach, this is probably one of the better options.
Color me whelmed. I would say Schulz and McCoy better hope they nailed this hire, but both probably won't be around to deal with the consequences should this go south. WSU as a whole better hope this is a home run hire, as the margins are razor thin and if this doesn't hit, it's very bad for the university.
I'm not concerned with whether a coach will bolt at this point. They all leave. Being 37 and assume "energy" seems > 60 and "last job".
Different animal, but I was pretty excited with the Riley hire even though there was concern with his age. I'll give Rogers at least a presser before I kick dirt on his grave.
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Let me go ahead and type it out so you can better understand:
THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT MAKING A GOOD HIRE, THE FUTURE OF WSU FOOTBALL, OR "BEING COMPETITIVE AT THE P5 LEVEL."
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FWIW, outside of the Mike Leach hire this couldn't be any more on brand for WSU than it is.
The only difference is that once Rogers finds success he'll leave a trail of fire from the burn out as he flee's Pullman for greener pastures, where as Walden/ Price/ Doba/ Wulff stayed long beyond their shelf life.
The only difference is that once Rogers finds success he'll leave a trail of fire from the burn out as he flee's Pullman for greener pastures, where as Walden/ Price/ Doba/ Wulff stayed long beyond their shelf life.
Say it louder so Schulz and McCoy can hear too, please!!
(But you're not wrong.)
You realize that you contradicted yourself, right?
And a pox on you for your age bias. Is 60 over the hill? Should I just call you Gibby now? Oh he's too old". He's 60.
It's being rumored that we're paying Rogers $1.8M/year. That's not power conference money, but it's also not cheaping out.
I think some Cougs have forgotten our previous hires from huge power schools like Wyoming, Weber State, Eastern and Hawaii.
That’s not realistic. I don’t have much opposition to Rogers.
He’s on par (probably a bit better) than any other FCS or FBS level assistant coach we’ve hired over the years. Just saying that is our normal hiring pool.
Hope he keeps Edwards and Kaligis but that is probably unlikely.
I'm not sure "whole staff" would be a downgrade at this point? Matt is making a prediction to make controversy.
Ok. I was saying that $2.0M was about right. Close enough.
But riddle me this, Batman. Per below, $1.8M is more than 52 FBS head coaches (all G5 BTW). 37 of those coaches make $1M or less. Some a lot less. And I can't find (yet) FCS HC Salaries, but the ones I have run across start with a 2. And not $2M.
So, is this second year HC from FCS worth more than 52 sitting FBS coaches? Or ALL other FCS coaches, many of whom would probably sell their kids for $1M+?
Oh and since I sort of latched onto Bobby Hauck as a more desirable pick, did you know that Missoula is 256 miles by car from Pullman? Much less by air. Brookings, SD? Another 1,020 miles past that by car, not all that much less by air.
WTF is the point? Familiarity with recruiting markets. How many payers does SDSU have from California, Or and Wa? 1. Montana? 29, plus 4 or 5 from Hawaii.
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Looking at our schedule next season, how many of those teams would South Dakota State beat? Idaho, San Diego State, UW, at Colorado State, at Virginia, at North Texas, at Ole Miss, Louisiana Tech, Toledo, at James Madison, Oregon State (twice)
Hah! Can't see how Wulff's staff could have been any less prepared than these guys.
Have you seen his "whole" staff? His DC was a grad asst. at WSU in 20-21. At least his recruiting territory is California - whoops typo! - I meant Eastern Illinois/Chicago.
Feast your eyes below (scroll past all the players who are NOT from the West Coast. Except 1).
You sound upset Loyal...care to explain how SDSU whopped montana last year?Ok. I was saying that $2.0M was about right. Close enough.
But riddle me this, Batman. Per below, $1.8M is more than 52 FBS head coaches (all G5 BTW). 37 of those coaches make $1M or less. Some a lot less. And I can't find (yet) FCS HC Salaries, but the ones I have run across start with a 2. And not $2M.
So, is this second year HC from FCS worth more than 52 sitting FBS coaches? Or ALL other FCS coaches, many of whom would probably sell their kids for $1M+?
Oh and since I sort of latched onto Bobby Hauck as a more desirable pick, did you know that Missoula is 256 miles by car from Pullman? Much less by air. Brookings, SD? Another 1,020 miles past that by car, not all that much less by air.
WTF is the point? Familiarity with recruiting markets. How many payers does SDSU have from California, Or and Wa? 1. Montana? 29, plus 4 or 5 from Hawaii.
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That's all you've got? How about you address the half-dozen cogent points I made?
And based on that logic, yes I would have hired Mendenhall from NM.
You talking to me? If so, then first off I just threw out Mendenhall as an example (NM beat us last I read). He makes $1.2M. That not necessarily being choice #1, any number of West Coast G5 head coaches would be on my list. Then any of the remaining 37 G5 HC's that make $1M or less. Rounded off by ALL of the Montana/Dakota HC's, with Hauck, as I laboriously explained, experienced, successful, with West Coast recruiting connections, as sort of my favorite.
And I totally forgot about Dirk Koetter, making $465K at BSU as the top assistant.
That enough for you?
Reverse Merger With The Entire Coaching Staffs of the Mountain West. Each Week A New Staff Would Come To Pullman & Coach The Cougs.
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