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[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

It is ALL about feelings. They think they have a right to not be offended, which is feelings. You can't get science out of that. Feeling that some is a "they or them" instead of "he or she" is not biological science.

Besides, can't they have some empathy and understanding for MY feelings about singular vs plural pronouns being properly defined by biological science and the English language?

Okay, I realize it is silly of me to even ask such a question, because anyone that thinks they are a plural pronoun is either to stupid or muddled by drugs in the brain to grasp the concepts.

I apologize, Stretch. I see you were making the argument against the "them" and "they" which I also find to be a curious one.

Agree totally that there also needs to be some forgiveness and understanding from "those people" towards us who struggle with trying to adapt, especially when the situation comes about with someone you've known your whole life as being known as someone different.

My issue has been why do people care so much about this when it doesn't personally affect them? They seem to take a personal affront to this topic because of how it makes THEM feel. Taihtsat

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

For all of those scenarios, their proper name is easily substituted for the pronoun. Where it gets awkward is when you have to say it twice in quick succession.

I see this as political correctness gone mad - people are just looking for things to be offended by. I’m not going to waste time trying to hurt anyone’s feelings, but I’m also not going far out of my way to preserve them.

To a large degree, being offended is a choice. Choose not to be. If someone says something you find offensive, tell them once. If they keep it up, you should not consider their contributions to have any value.

Being offended by someone innocently "misgendering" is a temper tantrum, plain and simple. We've all seen the videos of this happening, they are countless. These people are mentally unstable to begin with and have thrown in gender dysphoria as a cherry on top. And for some reason the trans community focuses on these people and makes them "their" (see what I did there?) standard bearer.

Living in metro PDX I have a above average amount of interactions with humans who are trans, or presenting as trans. All of these interactions have been normal, human interactions. For the most part, these people (fwiw all dudes being girls - not sure how to say that in trans talk) just want to get on with their day it would seem and don't seem to be focused on who is saying what to whom.

FWIW, I'll make an honest effort if someone presenting as a certain gender want to be called a pronoun appropriate for that gender. What I won't do is venture into the absolute absurd down the pronoun road, nor will I apologize if I can't turn off 51 years of proper grammar and refer to a singular person as "they" all the time. Again, imho this is someone who is seeking attention and thinks that being a grammatical asshole they have made themselves into a special snowflake, and to them I say "grow the fck up- you're more than a pronoun or your procured "identity" so act like it."

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Are you guys done with this yet? Geezus.

 

[Stretch 74]

Ever heard of alternative facts?

Not in math. I would submit that alternative facts generally consist of facts on one side and an opinion or desire on the other.

 

[95coug]

That's all fine and dandy. Using the name is the best option, but as you stated it can get awkward...but only if you are deliberately refusing to address them by their preferred gender.

Yes, we do choose how and what offends us. But harassment and discrimination in the workplace is a real thing. Blacks had every right to "feel" offended. While misgendering isn't quite the same as suppression based off ethnicity, all this talk of just reducing this to only "feelings" is minimizing the difficulties this group of people face in some settings.

You complained about the possibility of being sued by misgendering someone. You know that is highly improbable unless it is a deliberate and consistent practice (in the workplace). You didn't address how you would handle the scenario I posed to you in comment #16. At what point would YOU take action?

Not a scenario I’d involve myself in, because there’s no right answer. Trans people have won those cases and their “harassers” lost jobs. The “harassers” have then won judgements based on their religious beliefs. I’ll just stand on the sidelines and shake my head at how ridiculous these fights over terminology have gotten.