I’m gonna say CSW. I think Jackson and Stone are both tweeners and not big enough or fast enough at their size to crack the NFL.
The paycheck is coming
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Not really Henley just got drafted. As for history, I’m all for setting the bar high but we’ve never been and will never be USC. Even our most productive players in a lot of cases weren’t NFL guys, they good players who fit a system well (Falk, Cody O, Borghi, etc)
Jesus H. Christ. You can’t answer a simple question without reading something else into it? You are literally making shit up.
Agree, but we aren't exactly loaded with seniors and the probability of us having an INSANE junior performance with an NFL body is pretty low in any/all positions
I did not make a statement. Read for comprehension. Jesus H. Christ. Cougini understood it. He is tremendously smarter than you.
Hmm. Apparently having the word “question” makes it a question. Conjunction junction what’s your function. Maybe I need to go back and review some shit.
Ron Stone, Brennan Jackson as 7th rounders, camp, practice squad.
Devin Richardson.
Sheffield is a possibility, extremely ELECTRIFYINGLY AWESOME.
Jenkins is a possibility.
Since Cam Ward has improved under Arbuckle, I see Cam Ward as at least a 7th rounder, camp, practice squad, etc.
Jason David's relative, who is 3.5 star, DB is a NFL lockdown corner possibility, looks at least as good as Trufant did coming out of college. Will have to see if makes NFL four years from now.
Langford, don't remember if he graduated or not.
Henley.
Can't remember his name but WSU's newest starting safety, who started, backed up, played a lot last year as a freshman, sure looks good, a possibility.
Also can't remember his name but WSU's starting CB, last year as a freshman, and this year, is already lights out lockdown, and has the potential possibility to be NFL.
Chris Jackson at the Nickle is a NFL possibility
At the end of this season or next season, I see 1,2,3,4 guaranteed NFL players.
WSU, Dickert has a lot of awesome transfers, recruits, good players that almost, but not quite NFL Players, and a couple, few, some NFL players, not as much as other teams, but enough at key positions, combined with good coaching to get WSU to 6,7,8,9,10 wins every season, which is better then at least half the conference.
it doesn’t have to be an insane performance. it has to be a consistent, all league type performance.
You are listing kids that havent taken a snap of P5 football yet. You are listing kids that weren’t even in the top half of the conference at their position. You are listing kids that haven’t even put on pads yet to play college football. All of these are wild reaches.
Who is a starter on the team right now that played last year that could be in a NFL training camp?
A DB on a team that got torched all year? Prob not.
A DE that couldn’t come up with ANY pass rush at all? Prob not.
Where is the NFL training camp bound talent on the roster that is taking the field next year?
Just because WSU has a LOCKDOWN CB, DB, doesn't mean the defense won't struggle at times, since it is a team, and need 11, not just 1,2,3,4.
The other thing is that the defense did pretty good against some pretty decent competition.
Did they have 2,3,4 bad games? yes
Did they have 2,3,4 really good games against good competition? yes.
Did they have 2,3,4 good games against so so competition? Yes
Did they have 2,3,4 neutral average so so games against so so competition? Yes
If the defense had not done as good as they did, would the team have only won 1,2,3,4 games with it's bad offense? Yes.
Were there holes in the defense despite Henley, the LB, and the what's his name the Lockdown Corner, etc, that holes, despite the good players, holes caused the defense to struggle at times? Yes.
The defense was both not as good as some thought, and not as bad as you say.
You can't or shouldn't go by 1,2,3 bad games, and should go by the whole season, the whole body of work, etc.
As to those who played last year.
Cam looks AWESOME UNDER ARBUCKLE.
last spring game, fall camp, season Cam was terrible. Part of that was Cam, but part of that was ERIC MORRIS, etc, and Cam looks ULTIMATE EXTREMELY AWESOME under Arbuckle.
Ron Stone, Brennan Jackson are 7th rounders, campers, practice squaders. But as good as they were, they weren't able to overcome the lack of DT depth as Defensive ENDS.
The freshman safety who started last year, looked dam good. It's not his fault that there were injuries, holes. He can't be the whole defense single handed.
The Freshman CB that started last season, looked pretty dam good, again it's not his fault that injuries, holes, and can't do everything, it all alone by himself.
Ahmad the transfer LB, was PRETTY DAM SOUGHT AFTER BY EVERYBODY in P5 land.
And he had a awesome spring, Spring Game.
Sheffield the transfer WR, was also HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER IN P5 LAND, and was the BEST WR IN A SPRING GAME that WSU has had in 7 to 15 years.
Jenkins LIT IT UP at RB with his ELECTRIFYING running last season. He averaged about 6,7 yards per carry, and had about 1,2,3 games of about 130 to 150 to 170 yards.
Cam, Jenkins, Ron Stone, Brennan Jackson DE, Jackson the Nickel, the safety that started as a freshman last year, the LOCKDOWN CORNER who started as a freshman last year, WR Sheffield, will probably be at least 7th rounders, NFL campers, practice squaders at worst, over the next 2,3,4 years, at 1,2,3 a NFLer's per year
Ahmad the transfer LB that everybody in P5 land wanted, was also pretty dam good in SPRING GAME.
And Jason David's Nephew, a 3.5 star, 4 star was also wanted by P5 land, and is at least as good as Trufant was coming out of highschool. About a 67% chance that he will be drafted 7th round, NFL camp, practice squad at worst.
GUARANTEE THAT WSU, DICKERT has at LEAST 2 NFL players from among, out of the players I listed, that drafted 7th round, NFL camp, and practice squad, at the very least, over the next 2,3 years, and wins at least 5,6, 5.5 games, and will eat my words, if wrong, and bet you $3(since I don't have a lot of money that I can afford to lose)
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Jaden was who started at safety as a freshman, last season, and other team's players, coaches, announcers, experts, etc,say he is special enough to have a chance at NFL.
Doesn't mean he will, but has a chance at it.
Chau Smith Wade has been the best CB, DB WSU has had since Karl Paymah, Eric Coleman, Lamont Thompson, Jason David, Trufant.
He started as a freshman, and is the starter this coming season, his sophmore season, He often LOCKED DOWN HIS guy the guy he was covering. He can't do it all by himself.
He had a AWESOME SPRING GAME, SPRING PRACTICE.
Players, coaches, announcers, experts, etc, from all teams, colleges, etc, say he is, or is going to be a NFL Lockdown Corner.
I GUARANTEE that he will be drafted 7th round, an or NFL camp, practice squad at worst, in the future.
Again, you are listing kids that have never played a snap at WSU. Some that have never put on pads. Highly sought after doesn’t equal NFL training camp.
The defense we saw against the uw and against Fresno is what it is. How did it get better? Who replaced Henley? No one.
The spring game was loaded. You cannot take your 2 best defensive players off the field and let the offense run up stats and say “wow! look how great they are!” Lololol
The Pac 12 is way down. CU, Cal, UA, ASU, Stanford were all terrible last year.
If WSU can’t beat those teams, who can they beat? They will need more than a couple 7th rounders to win Pac 12 games.
The best thing that happened to WSU was the coordinators leaving. They sucked.
Your ability to make a decision about taking the vaccine was yours and yours alone. Given your set of personal variables, if you felt it was the right choice, that's great. Go for it.
There are literally millions of people who made the opposite choice based on their own set of variables. Their body, their choice so to speak.
To label them as 'stupid m-fers' is ridiculous. In the rear view mirror, the vaccines were (at best) therapeutics that may have decreased symptoms. The vaccine did nothing to prevent transmission (as was heavily promoted). There are countless resources supporting this. RFK, Jr's campaign is also predicated on his assault on big pharma - his interviews on the All In podcast and Russell Brand's Live Free podcast are worth investing the time.
Over time, the data will also illustrate the long terms affects. If anything, the unvaxxed provide an unintentional control group to which the vaxxed can be compared.
It's unnecessary to try to convince to you were wrong to take the jabs and, quite frankly, that's not my job (see also your body, your choice). It's clear that is the hill you want to die on. Hopefully, that doesn't become a literal event. And if it does, doesn't the general public deserve to have access to the stats so they can make an informed decision on what to put into their bodies?
Time will tell.
Have you seen Mik’s math? He’s on a completely different level than me.
For a junior from "current" WSU to make the NFL?
It would be a relatively INSANE performance.
Biggs, you know the Pac isn't what it was and beast mode now has less value. NFL scouts know that too.
It would be an interesting Stat to measure the # of Pac-12 All-League players and see how many of them actually make it in the NFL
It isnt about making it in the NFL… it’s about having the talent to at least get a look.
If you look at what it takes to win league games, most years, you have NFL camp guys starting for you. Not 1-2, multiple.
Look at WSU’s typical bowl teams. NFL camp guys all over. Now????
The league is sooo far down now. Any other year this is a 2-3 win roster.
How many nfl bodies did they have after 1991? How about 95.
They should be .500 again. Two greatest coaches in our history leach and price were .500. Hell Dennis was .500
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Interesting... I don't think you're too far off.
I think the Top 25 teams are going to have about 70% of guys who make it in the NFL. The other 30% is from schools like ours (small potatoes).
With us conceptually fighting against teams 26 through 75 (so to speak)... we will probably do better with seasoned juniors and seniors. This upcoming year isn't us massively senior heavy.
The coaching now is more important than ever. That and staying healthy.
It kinda sucks knowing the Top 25 will always be the Top 25. The Top 5 pretty much far and away the best of the best.
Alabama
Clemson
Georgia
Ohio State
Michigan
FUsc will crawl back in. Texas should too.
All I'm saying is... WSU should be trying for 8 wins every year. It's attainable.
Being a 2 to 3 win team about 5 or 6 years ago doesn't matter.
Is what it is.
With the portal, the talent has found a way to rise to the top. The talent has also found a way to move down as well.
For schools like WSU, my gut tells me their programs have turned into 1-2 year teams. Whoever figures out a path forward fastest in those programs will see the most success.
Coaching matters.
Coaching matters...and also bending the rules to be competitive. As a fan, I could give two $hits if WSU ended up with a bad reputation if it meant a playoff appearance....just one. Right now, we like being the whipping boy of the Power 5 so a handful of WSU employees can collect big paychecks due to our Pac 12 affiliation. It's time to shake things up. Easy grades, minimal class attendance, talented athletes with questionable reputations....anything that gives us a fighting chance at a playoff or at least a Pac 12 championship. Leverage the athletic department to continue to build the best training and athletic facilities. Beasley should've been razed 10 years ago. If not, that's fine. We can be that .500 program and I will continue to lose interest and use my sports entertainment budget on sports gambling.
I’m ok with toeing the line a bit, but these kids are student athletes. There’s Ty Willingham and there’s Barry Switzer…ideally you want to be somewhere in between. There’s a fine line between running a squeaky clean program and shit going completely off the rails. WSU would have a helluva time recovering with a program that fell under the latter.
I've been really good about not getting involved in these threads, but I'm just curious what the reasoning is for the constant barrage of ads for the vax STILL being aired. Superbowl had a new ad, which has had its share of airtime especially during sporting events.
You know, the one where they are tossing the ball and that claims DEPRESSION is a risk factor for getting covid... THAT one?
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I know you don't cause it doesn't fit your narrative. You have million expectations on minimum dollar wages. If he goes 7-5 next year I will be a happy camper.
I don't need the blue pill, thank you. I may go and get the Shingles vaccine though. That shit sounds nasty.
