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So is the conference playing football on 11/7, or will they vote it down.

If you boil it down to only two things, it is money, and public perception of the conference in relationship to the other 4 conferences, they have to vote yes.

As for player safety, there are two sides to that. I realize many here have expressed safety concerns, which are valid, but I also have some questions, if the players are tested several times a week, while playing football, is that safer than not playing and not getting tested?

Someone mentioned long term effects of Covid and how much we don't know about this virus. Some one even posted a story about a man and his struggles with the long term effects. Many may not realize this, but there are many people each that get the flu, that suffer long term effects very similar, there is a lot we don't know about the annual flu as well and may never know. There are people that get Pneumonia annually, that suffer from COPD the rest of their lives, along with other aliments. So yes there are long term effects from Covid as there are from almost every virus, but none of these things stopped us in the past.

The long term effects of staying " locked up" I was speaking to a school teacher this week, and I think she summed it up better than many. She is teaching 5 hours a day of class on Zoom, the kids are going nuts, the parents are going nuts, and these 4th graders are begging to go back to school. So I asked her if you had the chance would you go back to the classroom and she said " In a minute, these kids need to interact with one another, they are in class daily but I know they aren't learning like they would if it was a classroom experience" the her last comment was probably the most interesting one " if we can classify minimum wage workers as essential and make them go back to work, why not us? The district and teachers can certainly create a safe environment, safer than the hardware or grocery stores" Many private schools are open and doing fine so far.

The other thing that to many people over look is the impact of staying Isolated. Talk to any firefighter or police officer and they will tell you calls for domestic Violence are way up, will over 100%, calls to batter women shelters are down, which means the women can't get along time to make calls. I am sure we will be reading about drug and alcohol abuse being on the rise. The long terms social impacts of this disease, maybe far greater than disease itself. It's a personal choice, be safe be smart, but let people try to live a normal life, keep your distance wear a mask, it seems to be helping. Sure games will get cancelled to play it safe the MLB has cancelled many and kept going.

To say it's too risky while true, it could turn out that more peoples lives are ruined because of the strict policy than because of the disease. Like many things in life it's choice, there isn't a right or wrong, just a different path.
 
Unless your the QB, might be your best shot to get the experience going into next year. It will be interesting to see how many do opt out, and if there are anymore transfers.
 
I thought no one was losing eligibility this year regardless?

If that’s true then it’s a free roll.

If it isnt true youre trading a 12 game year for a 7 game year with the possibility of it being less if games get cancelled because of positive tests. So what happens when 7 turns into 4?
 
I thought no one was losing eligibility this year regardless?
It’s true. NCAA made that decision two or three months ago. This year does not count towards a player’s eligibility. They can “opt out” from playing this year but retain their scholarship. No one is “forced to endanger their life by being exposed to Covid 19 while being made to play.” Most teams seem to have at least 2-3 players opting out, except Alabama ;)

It also makes it easier for some players to use the transfer portal.
 
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You are correct. Biggs would opt out because he didn't reach the fine print.

So you’re saying they’re gonna play 7 games... more than 50% of the season.... and the NCAA is just gonna give everyone an extra year??? This season is a free roll on eligibility.

You trust the NCAA more than I do.
 
So you’re saying they’re gonna play 7 games... more than 50% of the season.... and the NCAA is just gonna give everyone an extra year??? This season is a free roll on eligibility.

You trust the NCAA more than I do.

It's been done. Take it up with them.
 
So is the conference playing football on 11/7, or will they vote it down.

If you boil it down to only two things, it is money, and public perception of the conference in relationship to the other 4 conferences, they have to vote yes.

As for player safety, there are two sides to that. I realize many here have expressed safety concerns, which are valid, but I also have some questions, if the players are tested several times a week, while playing football, is that safer than not playing and not getting tested?

Someone mentioned long term effects of Covid and how much we don't know about this virus. Some one even posted a story about a man and his struggles with the long term effects. Many may not realize this, but there are many people each that get the flu, that suffer long term effects very similar, there is a lot we don't know about the annual flu as well and may never know. There are people that get Pneumonia annually, that suffer from COPD the rest of their lives, along with other aliments. So yes there are long term effects from Covid as there are from almost every virus, but none of these things stopped us in the past.

The long term effects of staying " locked up" I was speaking to a school teacher this week, and I think she summed it up better than many. She is teaching 5 hours a day of class on Zoom, the kids are going nuts, the parents are going nuts, and these 4th graders are begging to go back to school. So I asked her if you had the chance would you go back to the classroom and she said " In a minute, these kids need to interact with one another, they are in class daily but I know they aren't learning like they would if it was a classroom experience" the her last comment was probably the most interesting one " if we can classify minimum wage workers as essential and make them go back to work, why not us? The district and teachers can certainly create a safe environment, safer than the hardware or grocery stores" Many private schools are open and doing fine so far.

The other thing that to many people over look is the impact of staying Isolated. Talk to any firefighter or police officer and they will tell you calls for domestic Violence are way up, will over 100%, calls to batter women shelters are down, which means the women can't get along time to make calls. I am sure we will be reading about drug and alcohol abuse being on the rise. The long terms social impacts of this disease, maybe far greater than disease itself. It's a personal choice, be safe be smart, but let people try to live a normal life, keep your distance wear a mask, it seems to be helping. Sure games will get cancelled to play it safe the MLB has cancelled many and kept going.

To say it's too risky while true, it could turn out that more peoples lives are ruined because of the strict policy than because of the disease. Like many things in life it's choice, there isn't a right or wrong, just a different path.
Well said on many points including football, society, and teaching. That is how I feel teaching 5th grade.
 
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