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dgibbons said:
Just because you feverishly want to discuss politics on a football message board doesn't mean that everyone else does too. It's a somewhat sad revelation about your existence. Some people (I'm one of them) have things like jobs, family, friends, and lots of other things that consume their time.

But here's my attempt to engage with you: You're missing the mark again. The weird thing is that you've already conceded.

The "argument" (again, you've conceded it, so it's not an argument), is that the Ds don't give two shits about democracy. It's a total sham argument. Nancy Pelosi kneecapped the sitting President of the United States, after the primaries were over. That's not remotely close to democratic. If the Ds actually believed their own rhetoric that Trump is a existential threat to democracy, Biden should be acting, right? Otherwise he violates his oath of office (which, to be fair, he probably doesn't give a shit about that either, otherwise he'd be enforcing immigration laws).

You might want to become familiar with the Ds rhetoric on fascism too. It goes back to Goldwater at least.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah...blah, blah, blah.

Willfully obtuse argument that campaigning to preserve a country's democracy vs encouraging and convincing a candidate to step aside during the nomination process before the convention is the false equivalency argument you keep stubbornly trying to stick to.

Again, advocating Biden "do something". You couldn't make that silly argument work either previously.

You're dismissed, counselor. Taihtsat
 
dgibbons said:
I guess Hillary had the evidence that she had manufactured to claim that she lost due to Russian interference. So, there's that.
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Conceded almost immediately. Wasn't it by the next morning? How many court cases did she bring froward challenging the results.

Funny all the talk you spew about brainwashing when every...yeah, pretty much every argument you put forth is all the same stuff you hear on Hannity or Ingraham or Newsmax or...(on and on the list goes). Taihtsat
 
AlwaysSpokanesFault said:
This is literally (like "Hitler Literally") "WillieTheRedditor." Pimpy wants upvotes about how he's moving to France and getting his tubes tied because of "Le Orange Man Bad." Christ, these people are absolute buffoons...no matter how many different SSRIs they're on.

BTW: Anybody else find it funny that a blue state like WA has to mobilize the National Guard to stop blue voters from chimping out and destroying shit? Yeah, Democrats aren't a threat to democracy at all...
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You probably forgot the group (mob?) of maga that gathered outside Olympia in January of 2020.

The losers are the threat, not the winners. This state is going blue. Taihtsat
 
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KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Conceded almost immediately. Wasn't it by the next morning? How many court cases did she bring froward challenging the results.

Funny all the talk you spew about brainwashing when every...yeah, pretty much every argument you put forth is all the same stuff you hear on Hannity or Ingraham or Newsmax or...(on and on the list goes). Taihtsat
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Conceded and has whined for nearly a decade. Guess what? Trump left the White House in January 2021. The Mueller report was inconclusive. Do we need to re-live that?
 
dgibbons said:
Conceded and has whined for nearly a decade. Guess what? Trump left the White House in January 2021. The Mueller report was inconclusive. Do we need to re-live that?
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Trump and Clinton behaved the same way? You think Clinton behaved worse? Trump was worse? Don't hide, answer that.
 
KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah...blah, blah, blah.

Willfully obtuse argument that campaigning to preserve a country's democracy vs encouraging and convincing a candidate to step aside during the nomination process before the convention is the false equivalency argument you keep stubbornly trying to stick to.

Again, advocating Biden "do something". You couldn't make that silly argument work either previously.

You're dismissed, counselor. Taihtsat
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For the record, you've got nothing substantive here.

Do you want to walk through the requirements of amending the Constitution? Two of your three favorite villains did that (Hitler and Putin, with Trump being #3). Because that's the only way democracy could even be threatened. You continue to overlook that the Ds are the ones appointing themselves the defenders of democracy when they clearly don't give two shits about democracy. It's about winning and about power. Pelosi at least admits it, so why can't you?

And you've never identified the first time you supposedly kicked my ass on this message board.
 
KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Trump and Clinton behaved the same way? You think Clinton behaved worse? Trump was worse? Don't hide, answer that.
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Well obviously Trump's worse. He's Hitler. Once you're literally Hitler, everyone else is like on a "get out of jail free" card because no matter how shitty they behave, at least they're not Hitler. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler!

So to answer your question, Clinton did not behave as badly as Trump because Trump is literally Hitler.
 
KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Trump and Clinton behaved the same way? You think Clinton behaved worse? Trump was worse? Don't hide, answer that.
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You are raising a matter of degree. Like I said before, you want to claim the hooker that charges $2000 per hour is more virtuous than the hooker that charges $1000 per hour.
 
425cougfan said:
More than most years, yes, both sides' voters are locked in and are voting based on their perceptions of intractable, inherent aspects of candidates apart from their policy positions. But there are still a fair number of undecided voters, and certainly have been in the past few months. It isn't a big group relative to each side's true believers, but despite being a relatively small cohort, they (and turnout) are deciding this election. Both sides certainly are trying to make it more about the negatives of the other when it comes to swaying these people, but yeah, I do think it would be helpful to them to understand actual policy positions.
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Yeah... that would require the candidates to actually state their policy positions.

Did you know that Trump has a plan? A very good plan?

Did you know that Harris grew up in a middle class family?

Those are the policy positions the American voters were given.
 
KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah...blah, blah, blah.

Willfully obtuse argument that campaigning to preserve a country's democracy vs encouraging and convincing a candidate to step aside during the nomination process before the convention is the false equivalency argument you keep stubbornly trying to stick to.

Again, advocating Biden "do something". You couldn't make that silly argument work either previously.

You're dismissed, counselor. Taihtsat
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Can you show us on the doll where your democracy touched you?
 
BleedCrimsonandGray said:
Yeah... that would require the candidates to actually state their policy positions.

Did you know that Trump has a plan? A very good plan?

Did you know that Harris grew up in a middle class family?

Those are the policy positions the American voters were given.
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I’ve heard rumors referring to this but to date, no one has been able to provide proof of this claim.
 
dgibbons said:
Ohhhhhh. Very Democratic Party of you to place words in someone else's mouth. Manufacturing evidence of Russian interference is A-okay with you I suppose. Gathering a mob to confront members of the administration is too, right? Challenging the 2000, and 2016 elections was A-okay too, right? Pelosi kneecapping the sitting President of the United States' campaign was totally cool too.

The point you will chose to ignore is that you're talking about a matter of degree, at best.

Have a nice day.
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Democratic? Nope. Not a Democrat. Never registered with any political party and never will. Just someone that sees through your BS. But are democrats supposed to be civil and play nice all the time? Goody do-gooders? Even when someone such as yourself is being insulting and behaving like a complete asshat?

It’s humorous that you call Krusty brainwashed when most of your nonsense is regurgitated rightwing silliness lifted directly from the likes of Hannity and Carlson.

Let me remind you that Joe Biden is the President of the United States of America, the single most powerful man in the world. And while he can and does appear confused and cognitively and physically feeble at times just as quite often does Donnie Drumpf he’s also quite sharp at other times and can make his own decisions like the big boy that he is. It was his decision and his alone to step aside no matter what nonsense Hannity has you believing.
 
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AlwaysSpokanesFault said:
Well obviously Trump's worse. He's Hitler. Once you're literally Hitler, everyone else is like on a "get out of jail free" card because no matter how shitty they behave, at least they're not Hitler. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler!

So to answer your question, Clinton did not behave as badly as Trump because Trump is literally Hitler.
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You're arguing with someone else i guess. I've never compared trump to Hitler. I think that turns people off. Taihtsat
 
UberCougars said:
Golly, Beav, what if your media is manipulating you and Trump really isn’t Hitler?
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I will bite... when words come out of Forrest Trump's own mouth, when he isn't giving the mic a blow job ( conservative Christians that is your guy) what should I take when he wants to have a military trial for Millie, says he wants to do away with the constitution and claims fraud when there was none?
 
dgibbons said:
Just because you feverishly want to discuss politics on a football message board doesn't mean that everyone else does too. It's a somewhat sad revelation about your existence. Some people (I'm one of them) have things like jobs, family, friends, and lots of other things that consume their time.

But here's my attempt to engage with you: You're missing the mark again. The weird thing is that you've already conceded.

The "argument" (again, you've conceded it, so it's not an argument), is that the Ds don't give two shits about democracy. It's a total sham argument. Nancy Pelosi kneecapped the sitting President of the United States, after the primaries were over. That's not remotely close to democratic. If the Ds actually believed their own rhetoric that Trump is a existential threat to democracy, Biden should be acting, right? Otherwise he violates his oath of office (which, to be fair, he probably doesn't give a shit about that either, otherwise he'd be enforcing immigration laws).

You might want to become familiar with the Ds rhetoric on fascism too. It goes back to Goldwater at least.
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Funny you say that above when in post #61 in this very thread...BEFORE i got involed, you posted this.

Right. Kamala is impeccable. And Joe Biden runs circles around his staff.

You make it soo easy. Taihtsat
 
KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Conceded almost immediately. Wasn't it by the next morning? How many court cases did she bring froward challenging the results.

Funny all the talk you spew about brainwashing when every...yeah, pretty much every argument you put forth is all the same stuff you hear on Hannity or Ingraham or Newsmax or...(on and on the list goes). Taihtsat
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lol - not trying to copy you but I basically just typed the same thing in my previous post before I saw this but have been meaning to point it out for quite some time. DGib’s bluster is stock rightwing “news” media hack drivel barfed back up. Hannity controls his thoughts.
 
WillieThePimp said:
lol - not trying to copy you but I basically just typed the same thing in my previous post before I saw this but have been meaning to point it out for quite some time. DGib’s bluster is stock rightwing “news” media hack drivel barfed back up. Hannity controls his thoughts.
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Right! No point in even listening to those tribal leaders at fox and Newsmax and AON because these trumpkins will always give us the talking points and "arguments".

They're actually doing us a service by saving us the time to listen/watch/read it ourselves.

And holy fvck, this clown can't even bring himself to say trumps post-election behavior was worse than Clinton's.
 
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WillieThePimp said:
lol - not trying to copy you but I basically just typed the same thing in my previous post before I saw this but have been meaning to point it out for quite some time. DGib’s bluster is stock rightwing “news” media hack drivel barfed back up. Hannity controls his thoughts.
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Says the guy that craps on independent media, and clearly enjoys a a firehouse of MSNBC.
 
KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Right! No point in even listening to those tribal leaders at fox and Newsmax and AON because these trumpkins will always give us the talking points and "arguments".

They're actually doing us a service by saving us the time to listen/watch/read it ourselves.

And holy fvck, this clown can't even bring himself to say trumps post-election behavior was worse than Clinton's.
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Did you get your instructions from Joe or Mika this morning?
 
KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Funny you say that above when in post #61 in this very thread...BEFORE i got involed, you posted this.

Right. Kamala is impeccable. And Joe Biden runs circles around his staff.

You make it soo easy. Taihtsat
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You're the one having a tantrum over someone not replying to you the on the schedule you determine.
 
CougEd said:
I will bite... when words come out of Forrest Trump's own mouth, when he isn't giving the mic a blow job ( conservative Christians that is your guy) what should I take when he wants to have a military trial for Millie, says he wants to do away with the constitution and claims fraud when there was none?
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I think you should hyperventilate even more.
 
WillieThePimp said:
Democratic? Nope. Not a Democrat. Never registered with any political party and never will. Just someone that sees through your BS. But are democrats supposed to be civil and play nice all the time? Goody do-gooders? Even when someone such as yourself is being insulting and behaving like a complete asshat?

It’s humorous that you call Krusty brainwashed when most of your nonsense is regurgitated rightwing silliness lifted directly from the likes of Hannity and Carlson.

Let me remind you that Joe Biden is the President of the United States of America, the single most powerful man in the world. And while he can and does appear confused and cognitively and physically feeble at times just as quite often does Donnie Drumpf he’s also quite sharp at other times and can make his own decisions like the big boy that he is. It was his decision and his alone to step aside no matter what nonsense Hannity has you believing.
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You've got the market cornered on ass-hattery.

Do you really believe that part? Really? Pelosi cutting off the campaign donations was a Biden decision? Biden was basically told resign or get fired, and you want to twist that into some kind of alternate universe where the outcome could have been that he kept going. Pelosi knee capped him. You know you've heard her essentially admit it. Do I actually need to find the YouTube clips for you?
 
dgibbons said:
You've got the market cornered on ass-hattery.

Do you really believe that part? Really? Pelosi cutting off the campaign donations was a Biden decision? Biden was basically told resign or get fired, and you want to twist that into some kind of alternate universe where the outcome could have been that he kept going. Pelosi knee capped him. You know you've heard her essentially admit it. Do I actually need to find the YouTube clips for you?
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Why do you even care?
 
dgibbons said:
Did you get your instructions from Joe or Mika this morning?
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I do answer questions when asked.

The answer is no. Don't watch because I don't think I'll get any new information. I make an effort to avoid opinion orientated shows.

Also, have been in a news blackout for 3 weeks. Unfathomable to you, I know. Taihtsat
 
dgibbons said:
You're the one having a tantrum over someone not replying to you the on the schedule you determine.
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Tantrum? Nah.

Puzzled why someone making a claim refuses to support it with SOME semblance of an intelligent argument? Yup. Taihtsat
 
425cougfan said:
More than most years, yes, both sides' voters are locked in and are voting based on their perceptions of intractable, inherent aspects of candidates apart from their policy positions. But there are still a fair number of undecided voters, and certainly have been in the past few months. It isn't a big group relative to each side's true believers, but despite being a relatively small cohort, they (and turnout) are deciding this election. Both sides certainly are trying to make it more about the negatives of the other when it comes to swaying these people, but yeah, I do think it would be helpful to them to understand actual policy positions.
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I think you just summed up every presidential election.
 
KRUSTYtheCOUG said:
Tantrum? Nah.

Puzzled why someone making a claim refuses to support it with SOME semblance of an intelligent argument? Yup. Taihtsat
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It was a tantrum dude. Why deny it? Intelligent argument should include knowing the identity of the Speaker of the House. You didn't.
 
There is some serious TDS going down around here...I'm thinking a few people are starting to clutch their pearls in anticipation of a very bad day tomorrow (one that can't be medicated by a Bota Box, siamese kittens and Zoloft). Good thing our feckless leader Jay has readied the troops in anticipation of violence, arson and looting!
 
425cougfan said:
More than most years, yes, both sides' voters are locked in and are voting based on their perceptions of intractable, inherent aspects of candidates apart from their policy positions. But there are still a fair number of undecided voters, and certainly have been in the past few months. It isn't a big group relative to each side's true believers, but despite being a relatively small cohort, they (and turnout) are deciding this election. Both sides certainly are trying to make it more about the negatives of the other when it comes to swaying these people, but yeah, I do think it would be helpful to them to understand actual policy positions.
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I think there are a lot more people who are deciding whether or not to vote than are truly undecided due to apathy and 2 subpar candidates.
 
dgibbons said:
You're the one having a tantrum over someone not replying to you the on the schedule you determine.
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Speaking of schedules, that is one long lunch you've taken today. 4 hours, 20 political posts and counting...... :)
 
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