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[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Please stop the utter nonsense. People rely on and use new technology everyday, new airplanes, new cars, new medicines. Can you imagine not driving a new car until it has a 10 year proven track record for safety? If there is a evidence of failed new tech in an area, the justification for caution would be legitimate, no one would suggest otherwise. However, vaccines are the safest medical technology ever developed, bar none, never having a bad outcome in 300 years. It starts with the extremely low doses involved, and ends with the fact that your own immune system does 99.999% of the work.

No one says it "prevents the spread of the virus," the effect is reduces transmissibility. You are right, your chances of dying are small, but would you believe it ain't all about you, sunshine. Have you no concern about your fellow man? Frankly, vaccinating a million healthy people to save the life of one old/young unhealthy poor sod, is worth it for most of us, that's what decent people do as a matter of course. We don't understand your and Rolo's "my liberty, fock the rest of you," selfishness.

What am I doing that is selfish? Please, tell me all knowing one.

Also, the moral righteousness is rank on you and everyone else swinging your sword to crusade against the filthy unwashed masses and their false religion. The only reason, and I mean ONLY reason so many people jumped on board with this vaccine is because its cheap and easy. There are hundreds if not thousands of socially and morally obligate issues that people step right over every day, because it would take actual time and effort. But hey, I get to take a shot and wear a mask and wave my banner of righteousness in everyone's face, PLUS I get to look down my nose at those who haven't joined my cult of personality yet. Here, let me post some more virtue signalling bullshit on insta.

 

[CougEd]

nice story, tell it to readers digest, snowflake.

Snowflake Junior here...I have a legit question for you. Let's say for the moment you or people who have the same belief system choose not to vax. You went to someone's house or a party, a intimate gathering of ten or less, say you believe they may be vaxed, do you let them know you aren't? Would you wear a mask?

 

[CougPatrol]

Snowflake Junior here...I have a legit question for you. Let's say for the moment you or people who have the same belief system choose not to vax. You went to someone's house or a party, a intimate gathering of ten or less, say you believe they may be vaxed, do you let them know you aren't? Would you wear a mask?

I would only reveal my vax status if they asked.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Snowflake Junior here...I have a legit question for you. Let's say for the moment you or people who have the same belief system choose not to vax. You went to someone's house or a party, a intimate gathering of ten or less, say you believe they may be vaxed, do you let them know you aren't? Would you wear a mask?

Is this a hypothetical?

 

[wazzucougs96]

nice story, tell it to readers digest, snowflake.

grown man crying on the internet calling others snowflakes is hilarious

 

[wazzucougs96]

So if the vaccine won't prevent Covid, doesn't limit transmission and isn't absolutely necessary - why the need to mandate it?

Or are you saying we just don't know - and therefore, mandates aren't necessary?

Edit: or are you saying with absolute certainty those all are true and, therefore mandate the hell out of it?

I'm trying to think of any additional permutations. Feel free to add other combinations.

The vaccine does do those things. It does not do them with 100% effectiveness. Pretending that is the same as not being effective at all is intellectually dishonest, but we both know that already.

 

[Observer11]

The vaccine does do those things. It does not do them with 100% effectiveness. Pretending that is the same as not being effective at all is intellectually dishonest, but we both know that already.

That really didn't answer any of the scenarios laid out.

I'm being far more intellectually honest by assessing multiple scenarios and potential reasons for/against both the vaxx and the mandates, thank you very much. Just because you want to label it as 'intellectually dishonest' doesn't mean it is. Though that's a pretty consistent technique of re-defining terms these days.

Sorry you've encamped yourself in the my way or the highway camp. At least if you're wrong, you're 100% wrong. Theoretically, you could be 100% right too but that wouldn't answer any of the multiple alternatives previously discussed.

 

[CougEd]

Is this a hypothetical?

You tell me . It’s an easy one to answer

 

[CougEd]

That really didn't answer any of the scenarios laid out.

I'm being far more intellectually honest by assessing multiple scenarios and potential reasons for/against both the vaxx and the mandates, thank you very much. Just because you want to label it as 'intellectually dishonest' doesn't mean it is. Though that's a pretty consistent technique of re-defining terms these days.

Sorry you've encamped yourself in the my way or the highway camp. At least if you're wrong, you're 100% wrong. Theoretically, you could be 100% right too but that wouldn't answer any of the multiple alternatives previously discussed.

Hard to argue numbers 11. 90% of cases in the hospital are not vaxed . That number alone should tell you best way to deal with it . You offer no way to HELP stop the spread of the virus . None . Your answers are after someone catches it .

 

[dgibbons]

Let them die. It’s their choice.

They're not going to.

 

[dgibbons]

Delta didn't need to mandate it. And I would agree with Delta....if we had 90% buy in we wouldn't need a govt mandate.

This shouldn't surprise anyone, especially you, but you have no idea what you're talking about. 77 percent of people eligible have been vaccinated. How many others have acquired immunity?

Immunity is what matters, not vaccination rate.

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

This shouldn't surprise anyone, especially you, but you have no idea what you're talking about. 77 percent of people eligible have been vaccinated. How many others have acquired immunity?

Immunity is what matters, not vaccination rate.

I generally agree with immunity being what matters and wish an option had been available to use proof of infection or anti-bodies if someone refuses to be vaccinated.

However, acquiring immunity through infection carries a much greater overall cost to society than acquiring immunity via vaccine. So, in the end immunity is immunity, but one of those methods has a significantly higher body-count man the other. Taihtsat

 

[CougInSpain]

I generally agree with immunity being what matters and wish an option had been available to use proof of infection or anti-bodies if someone refuses to be vaccinated.

However, acquiring immunity through infection carries a much greater overall cost to society than acquiring immunity via vaccine. So, in the end immunity is immunity, but one of those methods has a significantly higher body-count man the other. Taihtsat

Oh because Covid is a death sentence? LOL you still on here popping off BS?

 

[KRUSTYtheCOUG]

Oh because Covid is a death sentence? LOL you still on here popping off BS?

The term "body count" is just the most impactful result. I can easily include lost productivity from work, lengthy hospital stays leading to financially crippling affects on those hospitalized, those who suffer from long-term negative affects, the strain on our hospitals, etc.

Do you believe the negative consequences - the total societal cost - is the same for both types of acquired immunity? Taihtsat

 

[COUGinNCW]

Let them die. It’s their choice.

I generally agree with immunity being what matters and wish an option had been available to use proof of infection or anti-bodies if someone refuses to be vaccinated.

However, acquiring immunity through infection carries a much greater overall cost to society than acquiring immunity via vaccine. So, in the end immunity is immunity, but one of those methods has a significantly higher body-count man the other. Taihtsat

Not to mention the economic cost of sick days, supply chain interruptions, hospitalizations et al

 

[dgibbons]

The term "body count" is just the most impactful result. I can easily include lost productivity from work, lengthy hospital stays leading to financially crippling affects on those hospitalized, those who suffer from long-term negative affects, the strain on our hospitals, etc.

Do you believe the negative consequences - the total societal cost - is the same for both types of acquired immunity? Taihtsat

I believe that you're ignoring one class of immunity.