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I doubt we ever get to know all the reasons Rolo wouldn't take the shot, I am sure he has his principals. However if I am making 3 million a year and I won't take the shot, I can guarantee you my wife would be all over my arse. Then she'd probably leave me for being an idiot in her mind. So where does Rolo's wife stand in all this? I assume he has her support. Watson made an interesting comment, to paraphrase, "he had no friends all he had was us" . So I assume he became somewhat of an outcast around the sports offices, his wife was probably shunned at the grocery store, and by other wifes. Did she hate living in Pullman, did she want out? Is the covid thing a cover to get out of town, pure speculation, as I said we will never know the real reasons, but I do find it perplexing. The sad thing is there are 4 assistants that followed Rolo on this, they have families to feed, kids to put through school, what do they do now. The whole thing sucks, but I have to believe there is more to this story than just receiving a shot.
 
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I doubt we ever get to know all the reasons Rolo wouldn't take the shot, I am sure he has his principals. However if I am making 3 million a year and I won't take the shot, I can guarantee you my wife would be all over my arse. Then she'd probably leave me for being an idiot in her mind. So where does Rolo's wife stand in all this? I assume he has her support. JDL made an interesting comment, to paraphrase, "he had no friends all he had was us" . So I assume he became somewhat of an outcast around the sports offices, his wife was probably shunned at the grocery store, and by other wifes. Did she hate living in Pullman, did she want out? Is the covid thing a cover to get out of town, pure speculation, as I said we will never know the real reasons, but I do find it perplexing. The sad thing is there are 4 assistants that followed Rolo on this, they have families to feed, kids to put through school, what do they do now. The whole thing sucks, but I have to believe there is more to this story than just receiving a shot.
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There doesn’t have to be more to the story. You can see by the thousands of posts on here over the past year that people are irrationally passionate on the subject on both sides of the fence.

It’s become an ideological battle that doesn’t make any kind of sense.
 
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Well, the reason Rolo's request for a religious exemption was denied will have to come out. If not in public then in court. As I understand his request was timely filed.
 
roses04 said:
I doubt we ever get to know all the reasons Rolo wouldn't take the shot, I am sure he has his principals. However if I am making 3 million a year and I won't take the shot, I can guarantee you my wife would be all over my arse. Then she'd probably leave me for being an idiot in her mind. So where does Rolo's wife stand in all this? I assume he has her support. JDL made an interesting comment, to paraphrase, "he had no friends all he had was us" . So I assume he became somewhat of an outcast around the sports offices, his wife was probably shunned at the grocery store, and by other wifes. Did she hate living in Pullman, did she want out? Is the covid thing a cover to get out of town, pure speculation, as I said we will never know the real reasons, but I do find it perplexing. The sad thing is there are 4 assistants that followed Rolo on this, they have families to feed, kids to put through school, what do they do now. The whole thing sucks, but I have to believe there is more to this story than just receiving a shot.
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It isn’t just 4 assistants. It’s everyone.

Wulff kept 1 coach.
Leach kept 0 coaches.

Everyone is likely to get fired. On field, off field, strength staff. This isn’t just Turd and 4 assistants. It’s dozens of families. Loss of income, loss of job, loss of opportunity, kids pulled out of school, hope they had month to month housing. Top to bottom house cleaning.

It could take 30 years to get a P5 job. Now what? It is entirely possible no one on this staff ever coaches P5 football again. The drop in pay is enormous. All of the $ in college football is in P5. You aren’t gonna coach running backs at Montana State for $200,000.

It wasn’t just Turd making a decision for him and his. He made the decision for everyone else too. He pulled the plug on his career and pulled the rug out from everyone else.
 
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Well, the reason Rolo's request for a religious exemption was denied will have to come out. If not in public then in court. As I understand his request was timely filed.
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Was the exemption denied or were the accommodations denied?. From rolos own statements the religious exemption was bogus
 
longtimecoug said:
Was the exemption denied or were the accommodations denied?. From rolos own statements the religious exemption was bogus
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I haven't watched the press conference yesterday, but what people took from it was that accommodations were denied. FWIW, a friend texted me like 3 weeks ago saying that Rolovich was getting fired on the 18th. The administration and staff has most likely known this was coming for a few weeks now.
 
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roses04 said:
I doubt we ever get to know all the reasons Rolo wouldn't take the shot, I am sure he has his principals. However if I am making 3 million a year and I won't take the shot, I can guarantee you my wife would be all over my arse. Then she'd probably leave me for being an idiot in her mind. So where does Rolo's wife stand in all this? I assume he has her support. Watson made an interesting comment, to paraphrase, "he had no friends all he had was us" . So I assume he became somewhat of an outcast around the sports offices, his wife was probably shunned at the grocery store, and by other wifes. Did she hate living in Pullman, did she want out? Is the covid thing a cover to get out of town, pure speculation, as I said we will never know the real reasons, but I do find it perplexing. The sad thing is there are 4 assistants that followed Rolo on this, they have families to feed, kids to put through school, what do they do now. The whole thing sucks, but I have to believe there is more to this story than just receiving a shot.
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And the rest of the staff will be looking for new jobs when the season ends. Sad.
 
I agree there has to be more to the story you don’t just walk away from $3 mil. I wonder if he didn’t like Pullman and didn’t see a future here so this was an easy way to get out and possibly get the most money possible.
 
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roses04 said:
I doubt we ever get to know all the reasons Rolo wouldn't take the shot, I am sure he has his principals. However if I am making 3 million a year and I won't take the shot, I can guarantee you my wife would be all over my arse. Then she'd probably leave me for being an idiot in her mind. So where does Rolo's wife stand in all this? I assume he has her support. Watson made an interesting comment, to paraphrase, "he had no friends all he had was us" . So I assume he became somewhat of an outcast around the sports offices, his wife was probably shunned at the grocery store, and by other wifes. Did she hate living in Pullman, did she want out? Is the covid thing a cover to get out of town, pure speculation, as I said we will never know the real reasons, but I do find it perplexing. The sad thing is there are 4 assistants that followed Rolo on this, they have families to feed, kids to put through school, what do they do now. The whole thing sucks, but I have to believe there is more to this story than just receiving a shot.
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I have heard the maybe his wife doesn't like Pullman argument...or maybe he didn't.

It has to be tough being the wife of a football coach and living large in Hawaii...then having to move to Pullman.
 
BiggsCoug said:
It isn’t just 4 assistants. It’s everyone.

Wulff kept 1 coach.
Leach kept 0 coaches.

Everyone is likely to get fired. On field, off field, strength staff. This isn’t just Turd and 4 assistants. It’s dozens of families. Loss of income, loss of job, loss of opportunity, kids pulled out of school, hope they had month to month housing. Top to bottom house cleaning.

It could take 30 years to get a P5 job. Now what? It is entirely possible no one on this staff ever coaches P5 football again. The drop in pay is enormous. All of the $ in college football is in P5. You aren’t gonna coach running backs at Montana State for $200,000.

It wasn’t just Turd making a decision for him and his. He made the decision for everyone else too. He pulled the plug on his career and pulled the rug out from everyone else.
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Take coach weber. He was on OSU' s staff during the Kragthorpe years in 87-90. Staff got fired, went from job to job at smaller schools. Fresno, Nevada and some time at BYU. Got to UCLA in 97, I believe the staff was fired ion 03. It was another 16 years before he made it back to a power five conference after spending spending time at Utah State and Hawaii.

So when things like this happen to coaches you better hope you coached with someone on a staff that has a long coaching tree, or you do what Dennis did and hop from job to job so you create your own long tree by different associations.
 
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I doubt we ever get to know all the reasons Rolo wouldn't take the shot, I am sure he has his principals. However if I am making 3 million a year and I won't take the shot, I can guarantee you my wife would be all over my arse. Then she'd probably leave me for being an idiot in her mind. So where does Rolo's wife stand in all this? I assume he has her support. Watson made an interesting comment, to paraphrase, "he had no friends all he had was us" . So I assume he became somewhat of an outcast around the sports offices, his wife was probably shunned at the grocery store, and by other wifes. Did she hate living in Pullman, did she want out? Is the covid thing a cover to get out of town, pure speculation, as I said we will never know the real reasons, but I do find it perplexing. The sad thing is there are 4 assistants that followed Rolo on this, they have families to feed, kids to put through school, what do they do now. The whole thing sucks, but I have to believe there is more to this story than just receiving a shot.
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That would be an odd way to get out of town. He also could have just won a few more games and got an offer to coach somewhere else. He very likely torpedoed his coaching career.
 
Cougarfan2013 said:
I agree there has to be more to the story you don’t just walk away from $3 mil. I wonder if he didn’t like Pullman and didn’t see a future here so this was an easy way to get out and possibly get the most money possible.
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How is he getting out with the most money possible? He was fired for cause. Flushed $9M. He'll have to go to court to maybe just get some "go away" money. The easy way to get out with the most money possible would have been to remain the coach, win a couple more games, get to a bowl and take another job somewhere else.
 
Well, the 4 coaches who got fired shared Rolo's vax beliefs, so that's as much on them as it is on Rolo. Dickert will absolutely land another job, and he may even become our next coach depending on how we finish the season.
 
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How is he getting out with the most money possible? He was fired for cause. Flushed $9M. He'll have to go to court to maybe just get some "go away" money. The easy way to get out with the most money possible would have been to remain the coach, win a couple more games, get to a bowl and take another job somewhere else.
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He may have taken some bad legal advice. He wouldn’t be the first one to do that.
 
roses04 said:
I doubt we ever get to know all the reasons Rolo wouldn't take the shot, I am sure he has his principals. However if I am making 3 million a year and I won't take the shot, I can guarantee you my wife would be all over my arse. Then she'd probably leave me for being an idiot in her mind. So where does Rolo's wife stand in all this? I assume he has her support. Watson made an interesting comment, to paraphrase, "he had no friends all he had was us" . So I assume he became somewhat of an outcast around the sports offices, his wife was probably shunned at the grocery store, and by other wifes. Did she hate living in Pullman, did she want out? Is the covid thing a cover to get out of town, pure speculation, as I said we will never know the real reasons, but I do find it perplexing. The sad thing is there are 4 assistants that followed Rolo on this, they have families to feed, kids to put through school, what do they do now. The whole thing sucks, but I have to believe there is more to this story than just receiving a shot.
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Speaking of 3 million; A person making that much should be able to afford someone to help write a application for exemption that would pass. It was a blind review process, so it seems he and his 4 assistants all failed at providing an acceptable application. Weird.
 
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Inslee won't cancel anything, he will only come up with more rules, regulations and mandates.
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As far as I can tell, no other state has a mandate like this for state workers. All other states allow testing as an alternative, except for Oregon. Oregon's mandate only covers employees in the governor's office.
 
In the coming months it will be fascinating to learn what percentage of such applications were accepted versus those denied. And what were the reasons for denial.
 
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That would be an odd way to get out of town. He also could have just won a few more games and got an offer to coach somewhere else. He very likely torpedoed his coaching career.
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I don't think so. He'll catch on somewhere as a HC or OC. It's not like he was having cocaine fueled orgies or covering up rape.
 
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I haven't watched the press conference yesterday, but what people took from it was that accommodations were denied. FWIW, a friend texted me like 3 weeks ago saying that Rolovich was getting fired on the 18th. The administration and staff has most likely known this was coming for a few weeks now.
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The handwriting was on the wall months ago. I am sure they knew he wasn't moving off his position, Inslee wasn't moving off his. If Inlsee is going to make it a mandate, you think he is going to accommodate the highest paid employee by at least 2 plus million dollars. Police officer in Seattle loses his job, not a lot of press. Rolo walks away from 3 mil, Sports Center, the cable networks, it gets peoples attention. A friend of mine who has no horse in the race other than being a businessman who employs 1500 people who he is struggles getting vaxed, he said nothing better than a public execution to get a point across. No question Inlsee and Rolo hada stand off, and this time Inslee came out on top. When Inslee doesn't come out top is when he gets voted out of office.
 
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Well, the reason Rolo's request for a religious exemption was denied will have to come out. If not in public then in court. As I understand his request was timely filed.
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My understanding is that the religious exemption part was approved, but that WSU wouldn't make an accommodation.
 
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Unfortunately, the firing will remain regardless of the end result of the legal battle, but I would like to hear the rest of the story. Probably we will have months to years to wait for that.
 
TSKCoug said:
Unfortunately, the firing will remain regardless of the end result of the legal battle, but I would like to hear the rest of the story. Probably we will have months to years to wait for that.
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I don't really think accommodating a public facing, high profile employee who must necessarily engage in massive amounts of interaction with people was ever in the cards. Rejecting a vaccination while coaching the team representing a Land Grant research institution was always a disconnect.
 
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As far as I can tell, no other state has a mandate like this for state workers. All other states allow testing as an alternative, except for Oregon. Oregon's mandate only covers employees in the governor's office.
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Isn't that really what WSU's statement says? (Obliquely, to be sure.)
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It was in the press conference. People said that Chun stated it was denied.
 
Spoke to Coach Brian Green back in September down in Orange California at a Showball camp at Hart Field (great guy and hell of a coach). He said things were very very tense between Chun and Rolovich. Chun basically told him back then what would go down. There is a reason why the players gave him the Gatorade bath. They knew.
 
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My understanding is that the religious exemption part was approved, but that WSU wouldn't make an accommodation.
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This is from the Spokesman article, so you may be right. I'll look for more...

Chun said the university decided it wouldn’t be possible to accommodate Rolovich’s exemption request, an indication that the coach’s exemption application may have been approved by a blind committee. If that were the case, Chun would have had to determine whether Rolovich could carry out his duties safely. Chun and WSU president Kirk Schulz declined to elaborate further.
 
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Living there and vacationing there are different. I really like the Big Island. But, I'm not sure I'd ever want to live there.
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That's how I feel about Pullman as well.

Ideally, I'd live in Hawaii from January - April. Western WA from May - August, and Pullman during the football season.
 
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Speaking of 3 million; A person making that much should be able to afford someone to help write a application for exemption that would pass. It was a blind review process, so it seems he and his 4 assistants all failed at providing an acceptable application. Weird.
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It’s actually unclear if their exemptions were denied but they may have all copied each other’s homework if they were all denied?
 
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