Things we thought but couldn't say about Leach before

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Never wanted to give it much credence, and yes I know this thread is going to sound like sour grapes now, but...

I find it interesting the that only kid who could really maximize the offense was a kid who wasn't coached by Leach all four years. The others seem to have a mental block or something that prioritizes passing the ball over scoring. Its like they can't think outside of the box or have been told to NOT think outside of the box. I can't really place my finger on it, but I always felt something was a little off with how Falk/ AG operated within the offense, but GM didn't have the same failings.

I'm not sure what is in the sauce that CML is/ was feeding the qbs, but Minshew wasn't having it.

Also, Leach is NOT a HC. He's an OC that doesn't want to have anyone tell him what to do with his offense, so he wears the HC hat.

Never was a big fan of all the name-calling. You can call your players out in a lot of ways that doesn't include degrading them in the press. And by all means, call them gigantic POS's behind closed doors - roll them, spray them with ice cold water from a hose, idgaf, but that is all for the football family not public consumption. You really want to make a statement on a player, sit their ass on the bench.

 

[chipdouglas]

Hypothesis: Leach needs to job hop to juice book sales of "Swing Your Sword".

Go watch that thing spike on Amazon in the southeast over the next 3 years...

 

[BiggsCoug]

Hypothesis: Leach needs to job hop to juice book sales of "Swing Your Sword".

Go watch that thing spike on Amazon in the southeast over the next 3 years...

They can read down there?

 

[PeteTheChop]

Finish in the Top 10 one season.

Fans are relieved with your departure the very next.

Crazy thing this college football ...

 

[PeteTheChop]

You can call your players out in a lot of ways that doesn't include degrading them in the press.

Probably was tough on those players who really did have fat girlfriends.

 

[chipdouglas]

Finish in the Top 10 one season.

Fans are relieved with your departure the very next.

Crazy thing this college football ...

"Fans" aren't anything. Most people wanted Leach to stay. I was one of them.

Not sure how a few deviations from the consensus get escalated to the new consensus.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Finish in the Top 10 one season.

Fans are relieved with your departure the very next.

Crazy thing this college football ...

No one is relieved. I'm certainly not. I would have been fine living in football mediocrity for the next 10+ years (or 5 at least until his contract expired). And I mean that literally - I don't believe that Leach would have gotten us over the hump, and more importantly LEACH HIMSELF didn't believe it could be done. Its the basis of all his recruiting inequity whining. That being said, getting 9-10 wins and going mid-tier bowling consistently would have been just fine with me.

But like any "break up", there is the obligatory post-mortem.

 

[ElComanche]

Leach seemed to have lost his drive this past year. He really wanted the Tenn job but got shut down at the last moment. The photo from Miss State shows him grinning like the cat who swallowed the canary. I think that in his own mind he is finally got the top job he deserves. It was time for him to move on. He spent eight years in Pullman which gave him the stage he needed to advance. However i really do not expect him to have a great career at Miss State .

 

[Flatlandcoug]

No one is relieved. I'm certainly not. I would have been fine living in football mediocrity for the next 10+ years (or 5 at least until his contract expired). And I mean that literally - I don't believe that Leach would have gotten us over the hump, and more importantly LEACH HIMSELF didn't believe it could be done. Its the basis of all his recruiting inequity whining. That being said, getting 9-10 wins and going mid-tier bowling consistently would have been just fine with me.

But like any "break up", there is the obligatory post-mortem.

I'm not relieved that Leach is gone, but I care a lot less than I thought I would. I'm actually excited about the job search. My company is based in Arkansas and a lot of the owners are Razorback fans. I would have considered quitting my job if he had been hired there because it would have been very aggravating to have them say, "Hey Flatland......what do you think about ______" and that would have gotten old fast. As it is, when someone told me the news, I was like, "Alright......I bet Chun gets us a good one".

 

[dgibbons]

I'm not relieved that Leach is gone, but I care a lot less than I thought I would. I'm actually excited about the job search. My company is based in Arkansas and a lot of the owners are Razorback fans. I would have considered quitting my job if he had been hired there because it would have been very aggravating to have them say, "Hey Flatland......what do you think about ______" and that would have gotten old fast. As it is, when someone told me the news, I was like, "Alright......I bet Chun gets us a good one".

It's a challenge. Replacing BB and FB coach within a year. Getting the IPF funding in place. We'll see what happens.

 

[ShockandAweWSU]

I do think he got very comfortable comfortable and lazy the last couple years. He rarely went on recruiting visits lately...and he was increasingly stubborn about evolving his offense.

 

[425cougfan]

Never wanted to give it much credence, and yes I know this thread is going to sound like sour grapes now, but...

I find it interesting the that only kid who could really maximize the offense was a kid who wasn't coached by Leach all four years. The others seem to have a mental block or something that prioritizes passing the ball over scoring. Its like they can't think outside of the box or have been told to NOT think outside of the box. I can't really place my finger on it, but I always felt something was a little off with how Falk/ AG operated within the offense, but GM didn't have the same failings.

I'm not sure what is in the sauce that CML is/ was feeding the qbs, but Minshew wasn't having it.

Also, Leach is NOT a HC. He's an OC that doesn't want to have anyone tell him what to do with his offense, so he wears the HC hat.

Never was a big fan of all the name-calling. You can call your players out in a lot of ways that doesn't include degrading them in the press. And by all means, call them gigantic POS's behind closed doors - roll them, spray them with ice cold water from a hose, idgaf, but that is all for the football family not public consumption. You really want to make a statement on a player, sit their ass on the bench.

I hear you on these, but I have a different take on the first two.

On Gardner, I think he just "gets it" in a way few others have, but that's what Leach envisions in his QBs and is trying to get them to understand. He's really smart. Falk was pretty smart as well, but not in the same way. He wasn't as savvy or street smart, especially after all the head injuries. I get what you're saying, though.

Frankly, I think Gardner may be part of what led Leach to make this call. Not directly, but -- while this may piss people off -- I think he served as a reminder that they just have better football players from the South who grow up playing in more competitive situations, and that added to the intrigue of something like this. Not dispositive or causal, just part of the picture.

Second, on him not being a HC, I just disagree. I thought that he was just a mad scientist running a gimmick offense when he was hired, but observing the program over time, a lot of the value he provided was in the form of the values he brought to the program like toughness, not having excuses, conditioning, great execution, and so on. It's very effective on both sides of the ball, even if he delegated specifics on the defensive side. It's no accident he has the tree he does. You don't have that just from being a coordinator masquerading as a HC.

As far as him saying stuff, I agree with name-calling, but I otherwise thought a lot of that was overblown. Head coaches say in just about every interview stuff like "we have to do a better job protecting the QB" and nobody cares. Leach says "our offensive line has to play better" and the "OH NO, HE'S BLAMING THE PLAYERS!" crowd goes apoplectic. I'm just glad I don't have to point this out any longer.

 

[dgibbons]

I hear you on these, but I have a different take on the first two.

On Gardner, I think he just "gets it" in a way few others have, but that's what Leach envisions in his QBs and is trying to get them to understand. He's really smart. Falk was pretty smart as well, but not in the same way. He wasn't as savvy or street smart, especially after all the head injuries. I get what you're saying, though.

Frankly, I think Gardner may be part of what led Leach to make this call. Not directly, but -- while this may piss people off -- I think he served as a reminder that they just have better football players from the South who grow up playing in more competitive situations, and that added to the intrigue of something like this. Not dispositive or causal, just part of the picture.

Second, on him not being a HC, I just disagree. I thought that he was just a mad scientist running a gimmick offense when he was hired, but observing the program over time, a lot of the value he provided was in the form of the values he brought to the program like toughness, not having excuses, conditioning, great execution, and so on. It's very effective on both sides of the ball, even if he delegated specifics on the defensive side. It's no accident he has the tree he does. You don't have that just from being a coordinator masquerading as a HC.

As far as him saying stuff, I agree with name-calling, but I otherwise thought a lot of that was overblown. Head coaches say in just about every interview stuff like "we have to do a better job protecting the QB" and nobody cares. Leach says "our offensive line has to play better" and the "OH NO, HE'S BLAMING THE PLAYERS!" crowd goes apoplectic. I'm just glad I don't have to point this out any longer.

The strength and conditioning doesn't get enough mention. Player development was very good and very consistent.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

I hear you on these, but I have a different take on the first two.

On Gardner, I think he just "gets it" in a way few others have, but that's what Leach envisions in his QBs and is trying to get them to understand. He's really smart. Falk was pretty smart as well, but not in the same way. He wasn't as savvy or street smart, especially after all the head injuries. I get what you're saying, though.

Frankly, I think Gardner may be part of what led Leach to make this call. Not directly, but -- while this may piss people off -- I think he served as a reminder that they just have better football players from the South who grow up playing in more competitive situations, and that added to the intrigue of something like this. Not dispositive or causal, just part of the picture.

Second, on him not being a HC, I just disagree. I thought that he was just a mad scientist running a gimmick offense when he was hired, but observing the program over time, a lot of the value he provided was in the form of the values he brought to the program like toughness, not having excuses, conditioning, great execution, and so on. It's very effective on both sides of the ball, even if he delegated specifics on the defensive side. It's no accident he has the tree he does. You don't have that just from being a coordinator masquerading as a HC.

As far as him saying stuff, I agree with name-calling, but I otherwise thought a lot of that was overblown. Head coaches say in just about every interview stuff like "we have to do a better job protecting the QB" and nobody cares. Leach says "our offensive line has to play better" and the "OH NO, HE'S BLAMING THE PLAYERS!" crowd goes apoplectic. I'm just glad I don't have to point this out any longer.

Every time I hear a "fat and lazy" I would think "well, YOU FKING RECRUITED THEM. LOOK IN THE MIRROR, COACH!" (yes, I was yelling in my head)

 

[chipdouglas]

I do think he got very comfortable comfortable and lazy the last couple years. He rarely went on recruiting visits lately...and he was increasingly stubborn about evolving his offense.

Talking of possibly unpopular opinions, by the end I felt CML was like a McKinsey consultant. Brilliant guy, out of the box thinker, comes in and shows you how to grow sales +50%, but is essentially on retainer after that, and doesn't have the interest and/or ability to look after the other parts of the business, such that you can always say you're "better" but you're never going to be #1.

He figured something out about CFB decades ago that is universal, and has built a nice resume around it even though it's not a complete / championship system.

 

[Cougsocal]

I like the fact that we can actually talk candidly about Leach, without being attacked. The guy just can't recruit well, today that is a given, yesterday they were still was fighting words. Hopefully, the next coach won't have such a cult following.

 

[Observer11]

Leach should be celebrated that no matter where one is on the spectrum, they can overcome.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

I hear you on these, but I have a different take on the first two.

On Gardner, I think he just "gets it" in a way few others have, but that's what Leach envisions in his QBs and is trying to get them to understand. He's really smart. Falk was pretty smart as well, but not in the same way. He wasn't as savvy or street smart, especially after all the head injuries. I get what you're saying, though.

Frankly, I think Gardner may be part of what led Leach to make this call. Not directly, but -- while this may piss people off -- I think he served as a reminder that they just have better football players from the South who grow up playing in more competitive situations, and that added to the intrigue of something like this. Not dispositive or causal, just part of the picture.

Second, on him not being a HC, I just disagree. I thought that he was just a mad scientist running a gimmick offense when he was hired, but observing the program over time, a lot of the value he provided was in the form of the values he brought to the program like toughness, not having excuses, conditioning, great execution, and so on. It's very effective on both sides of the ball, even if he delegated specifics on the defensive side. It's no accident he has the tree he does. You don't have that just from being a coordinator masquerading as a HC.

As far as him saying stuff, I agree with name-calling, but I otherwise thought a lot of that was overblown. Head coaches say in just about every interview stuff like "we have to do a better job protecting the QB" and nobody cares. Leach says "our offensive line has to play better" and the "OH NO, HE'S BLAMING THE PLAYERS!" crowd goes apoplectic. I'm just glad I don't have to point this out any longer.

Also, I think his qb coaching philosophy of "I'll give you the tools but on gameday you're the boss" played a lot into our losses at UW and struggles with Kal. IMHO, these kids don't have the wisdom to go out and formulate a gameplan on the fly on how to beat the Huskies, especially when they are getting home with two or three linemen. But even when they weren't getting home, the offense struggled. And this is where I feel more affirmative coaching would have benefitted the team - "if there are less 5 in the box, run the gd ball. Every time. No exceptions."

Or whatever. Just don't leave them out there with their dicks in the wind and then claim that you had nothing to do with it (which I guess is technically true...) because they call the offense.

 

[royhobbs2]

I like the fact that we can actually talk candidly about Leach, without being attacked. The guy just can't recruit well, today that is a given, yesterday they were still was fighting words. Hopefully, the next coach won't have such a cult following.

Yea I’m glad we got rid of the dead weight. Should be smooth sailing from here on out.

 

[Cougsocal]

Yea I’m glad we got rid of the dead weight. Should be smooth sailing from here on out.

Speaking of the cult followers, what are you going to do now Roy, move to Mississippi? Can you be a Coug without Leach?

You do realize that the man just bolted for the #2 team, in the poorest state in the country, his Coug love and commitment was just that strong. If you don't know it already, we just got snubbed big time.

 

[royhobbs2]

You’ve been bitching about Leach forever so you should be thrilled. If I was a fan of leach I guess that makes 98% of WSU’s fan base cult followers.

I understand some who feel angry at Leach leaving but not you. You complained about the 11-2 2018 team because “they didn’t win a championship”.


That I don’t understand unless you are blanchettes son

 

[425cougfan]

Also, I think his qb coaching philosophy of "I'll give you the tools but on gameday you're the boss" played a lot into our losses at UW and struggles with Kal. IMHO, these kids don't have the wisdom to go out and formulate a gameplan on the fly on how to beat the Huskies, especially when they are getting home with two or three linemen. But even when they weren't getting home, the offense struggled. And this is where I feel more affirmative coaching would have benefitted the team - "if there are less 5 in the box, run the gd ball. Every time. No exceptions."

Or whatever. Just don't leave them out there with their dicks in the wind and then claim that you had nothing to do with it (which I guess is technically true...) because they call the offense.

Fair point. All his positive attributes aside, I won't miss getting smeared in the AC every year with minimal adjustments.

 

[Cougatron]

Never wanted to give it much credence, and yes I know this thread is going to sound like sour grapes now, but...

I find it interesting the that only kid who could really maximize the offense was a kid who wasn't coached by Leach all four years. The others seem to have a mental block or something that prioritizes passing the ball over scoring. Its like they can't think outside of the box or have been told to NOT think outside of the box. I can't really place my finger on it, but I always felt something was a little off with how Falk/ AG operated within the offense, but GM didn't have the same failings.

I'm not sure what is in the sauce that CML is/ was feeding the qbs, but Minshew wasn't having it.

Also, Leach is NOT a HC. He's an OC that doesn't want to have anyone tell him what to do with his offense, so he wears the HC hat.

Never was a big fan of all the name-calling. You can call your players out in a lot of ways that doesn't include degrading them in the press. And by all means, call them gigantic POS's behind closed doors - roll them, spray them with ice cold water from a hose, idgaf, but that is all for the football family not public consumption. You really want to make a statement on a player, sit their ass on the bench.

Leach is a hell of a coach and there was a lot more that I liked than what I disliked.

what I disliked?

I think he had a few too many misses on assistant hires. Special teams was way too wild and seemed like an after thought.

Defensively we needed consistency sometimes it was amazing other times a nightmare.

I wish he was more adaptive against UW to at least try some different things.

But overall he was a great hire a great coach and he made WSU a legitimate threat to other teams, he also installed a meritocracy that installed a hard work ethic instead of juice box and orange slice country club atmosphere that had plagued us for years before.

Leach wasn’t perfect, but he made my WSU better than when he came in and created some of the best memories we’ve had (including Gameday in Pullman) and for that I am extremely grateful.

 

[random soul]

The strength and conditioning doesn't get enough mention. Player development was very good and very consistent.

Until we lost our head guy to Da Bears

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Fair point. All his positive attributes aside, I won't miss getting smeared in the AC every year with minimal adjustments.

Good point. Now we can go back to getting smeared in the AC with many adjustments being made

 

[PeteTheChop]

Leach is a hell of a coach and there was a lot more that I liked than what I disliked ... overall he was a great hire and made WSU a legitimate threat to other teams, he also installed a meritocracy that installed a hard work ethic instead of juice box and orange slice country club atmosphere that had plagued us for years before. Leach wasn’t perfect, but he made my WSU better than when he came in and created some of the best memories we’ve had.

Classy post right here.

 

[PINGDUDE4]

Speaking of the cult followers, what are you going to do now Roy, move to Mississippi? Can you be a Coug without Leach?

You do realize that the man just bolted for the #2 team, in the poorest state in the country, his Coug love and commitment was just that strong. If you don't know it already, we just got snubbed big time.

Yeah that program had 3 players picked in the first round of the NFL draft last season and over 30 active players in the NFL including the current starting QB for the Cowboys. Why would he want to go there ?

 

[TrumpCoug]

Talking of possibly unpopular opinions, by the end I felt CML was like a McKinsey consultant. Brilliant guy, out of the box thinker, comes in and shows you how to grow sales +50%, but is essentially on retainer after that, and doesn't have the interest and/or ability to look after the other parts of the business, such that you can always say you're "better" but you're never going to be #1.

He figured something out about CFB decades ago that is universal, and has built a nice resume around it even though it's not a complete / championship system.

Very well said.

 

[AncientCoug]

Very well said.

Leach’s personality didn’t work for me. I kind of slowly developed a personal dislike for the guy although he could be quite funny and entertaining at times.

But, his coaching performance speaks for itself. He was pretty much awesome in that regard. Not sure who will be able to step in and keep things at that high a level. This may be a lost year of recruiting depending on which recruits and coaches end up staying. I’m anticipating about 3 years of 3 to 4 win seasons. Hope I’m wrong.

 

[Cougsocal]

You’ve been bitching about Leach forever so you should be thrilled. If I was a fan of leach I guess that makes 98% of WSU’s fan base cult followers.

I understand some who feel angry at Leach leaving but not you. You complained about the 11-2 2018 team because “they didn’t win a championship”.


That I don’t understand unless you are blanchettes son

No, only those fans like you who, with motherly devotion, refused to acknowledge any negatives, or the obvious, regarding a middle age football businessman. Thank god that the vast majority of Cougars have been around this block, and haven't acted like Mike Leach's mon, like you.

I've been to two Rose Bowls, sadly 2018 and the Alamo Bowl against Iowa St, will never compare. I fret about what might have been, the team deserved better, just like the 1983 and 1992 teams, but coaches and their egos got in the way. Had Leach added innovation to his Apple Cup game plan and caught them flat footed, we might have been Pac-12 Championship bound. He had an entire year to game plan for their defense. Instead he chose more of the same old Air Raid, in a snow storm, which had proven unsuccessful the the preceding 20 quarter against Petersen's Air Raid defense.

Yeah, Leach's intransigence pissed me off. He is a great great coach, but god almighty I won't miss that insane stubbornness. If cost the Cougar nation what both you and I really want -- Rose Bowls. The difference between you and I, is I wear my disappoint on my sleeve, you hid your by insincerely mocking idea that the "Rose Bowl" is the ultimate goal, because you are strangely more devoted to Leach, a butt ugly, middle aged man, making millions, than the team and players, he coached.

 

[ElComanche]

Double like post

 

[royhobbs2]

No, only those fans like you who, with motherly devotion, refused to acknowledge any negatives, or the obvious, regarding a middle age football businessman. Thank god that the vast majority of Cougars have been around this block, and haven't acted like Mike Leach's mon, like you.

I've been to two Rose Bowls, sadly 2018 and the Alamo Bowl against Iowa St, will never compare. I fret about what might have been, the team deserved better, just like the 1983 and 1992 teams, but coaches and their egos got in the way. Had Leach added innovation to his Apple Cup game plan and caught them flat footed, we might have been Pac-12 Championship bound. He had an entire year to game plan for their defense. Instead he chose more of the same old Air Raid, in a snow storm, which had proven unsuccessful the the preceding 20 quarter against Petersen's Air Raid defense.

Yeah, Leach's intransigence pissed me off. He is a great great coach, but god almighty I won't miss that insane stubbornness. If cost the Cougar nation what both you and I really want -- Rose Bowls. The difference between you and I, is I wear my disappoint on my sleeve, you hid your by insincerely mocking idea that the "Rose Bowl" is the ultimate goal, because you are strangely more devoted to Leach, a butt ugly, middle aged man, making millions, than the team and players, he coached.

buy your rose bowl tickets now, I imagine you'll have years worth of bitching to do

 

[COCoug]

Leach absolutely improved WSU football, and win or lose some of the most exciting games any of us will ever see. However, in the spirit of this thread, I would say-
1. Hated how he never assumed responsibility for poor performance by his team. Would have been 1000% more effective to start those press conferences by saying he needed to coach better and motivate better and prepare better and adapt better.
2. Seemed like the game was passing him by. The Air Raid still worked sometimes, and still got a lot of yards, but less and less effective at actually winning games. Every team in the conference was using those plays, and it seemed like we had run our of ideas.
3. Just too dependent on nearly perfect QB play. Its just not a formula for long term success.

I think he will have similar success at MSU as at WSU. They will be improved and play a more exciting brand of football, and get to second and third tier bowls, but never break into the SEC championship game. Will be interesting to see how it plays out after a couple years at 6-6.

 

[sylean]

I accepted him and welcomed him.....this year I've had enough....too many losses with a lousy undersized defense and too many wasted timeouts on defense......enough......plus he was an inanimate a coach I've ever seen......no passion.....just that furloughed brow look of constipation....
he knew our defense was undersized and not up to par LAST year at minimum, but yet him and his appointed coaches put so little effort in actually improving and improvising....it was shameful....

plus, Gubrud should have been the starter....experience,....leader...gamer....instead we got a stat man......

 

[425cougfan]

What's amazing to me is he pretty much is exactly what the Tech fans said he'd be, and the criticisms here are almost exactly what I remember reading on the Tech boards from the 2009 timeframe when he was hired by us in 2011, both in terms of proportion (a minority, but one that was significant, that was negative, and a majority that were supporters) and the types of comments (the negative people being pissed about him shopping himself for other jobs, losing games he shouldn't, winning some games but not titles, supposedly not caring about defense, etc.).

A few years later when Tuberville was doing poorly, I saw some of them claim to really miss Leach since they saw how bad it got once he was gone. Not all of them, and I don't know if it was the same people. Then most of them got really excited when Kliff K was hired, and then that petered out as he failed. A decade later now and those guys have pretty much had bad and irrelevant football the whole time, with many of them pining at various points, and now, for what Leach had them enjoying for a while.

In any case, it was interesting to see and I could see the same thing here ... not that I'm saying some of this negative stuff isn't warranted, especially in the context of this thread. In some ways, I'm fine moving on, too. I just know what decades of college football history has to say about teams in rural outposts with the smallest budgets and no real history of success.

 

[M-I-Coug]

They can read down there?

Yeah, it's called John Grisham.

 

[OrangeGravy]

What's amazing to me is he pretty much is exactly what the Tech fans said he'd be, and the criticisms here are almost exactly what I remember reading on the Tech boards from the 2009 timeframe when he was hired by us in 2011, both in terms of proportion (a minority, but one that was significant, that was negative, and a majority that were supporters) and the types of comments (the negative people being pissed about him shopping himself for other jobs, losing games he shouldn't, winning some games but not titles, supposedly not caring about defense, etc.).

A few years later when Tuberville was doing poorly, I saw some of them claim to really miss Leach since they saw how bad it got once he was gone. Not all of them, and I don't know if it was the same people. Then most of them got really excited when Kliff K was hired, and then that petered out as he failed. A decade later now and those guys have pretty much had bad and irrelevant football the whole time, with many of them pining at various points, and now, for what Leach had them enjoying for a while.

In any case, it was interesting to see and I could see the same thing here ... not that I'm saying some of this negative stuff isn't warranted, especially in the context of this thread. In some ways, I'm fine moving on, too. I just know what decades of college football history has to say about teams in rural outposts with the smallest budgets and no real history of success.

And you'd be right.

I recognize Leach's warts, but for me, it's just the cost of doing business at this level if want even a chance at consistency with this program. Until someone comes in here and proves over 5-10 year stretch that they can turn this program into a championship caliber program and sustain it more or less for that period, I will always believe WSU will revert to it's historical mean. Sure there are plenty of coaches that can maybe get you to that 1 every 3/5 years of good results level, but it truly takes an exceptional set of circumstances to maintain any reasonable level of success.

It would be interesting to go back to Leach's hiring and see what everyone's comments were concerning what they hoped he could accomplish here. I bet most of those hopes were met or exceeded, AC results not withstanding.

 

[random soul]

Yeah, it's called John Grisham.

Or Faulkner for the artsy types