This is interesting regarding Minshew...

[79COUG]

Trevor Lawrence GardnerMinshew
2,735 Pass Yards 3,022
9 Pass TD 21
14 INT. 4
68.9 QB Rating 93.6
2-11 W-L 7-6

This from CBS Sports. I hope other teams in the league see this. He's just a winner... plain and simple.

 

[Stretch 74]

Trevor Lawrence GardnerMinshew
2,735 Pass Yards 3,022
9 Pass TD 21
14 INT. 4
68.9 QB Rating 93.6
2-11 W-L 7-6

This from CBS Sports. I hope other teams in the league see this. He's just a winner... plain and simple.

Hmmmm, Is it time yet to re-visit the argument about whether to keep or trade that #1 pick? Or should we start with if Jags should keep or fire Urban? Ha!

 

[425cougfan]

I'm incredibly biased, but it seems clear GM could be a decent starting QB, especially if he found a way to be on a decent team with a real shot at the job. He's a winner and you could see the making of something there, even as a rookie and then when he ostensibly was given a shot, albeit on a tanking team where he was running around for his life on most passing downs. Just compare him to Foles, Lawrence, and whoever else was deigned to succeed but he was better than. He's cheap, too. Unfortunately, it looks like those years in which he's cheap and could be on a loaded team as a capable starter that left a lot of cap for addressing other needs, he instead will be holding a clipboard.

 

[WindyCityCoug]

Hmmmm, Is it time yet to re-visit the argument about whether to keep or trade that #1 pick? Or should we start with if Jags should keep or fire Urban? Ha!

Urban is Gone from Jax in 4 weeks, that is now a Given after the coach infighting fiasco the past week. The players hate him too.

Trevor might be better/ improve with new coaches, new regime. But Jax franchise is sooo bad, cursed, so unless they strike gold with a new coach Trevor after a few years likely end up a bust, he is no Burrow, not yet.!

Good thing Menshew got out of there, now with chances in Philly with a better team and franchise.

 

[95coug]

Hmmmm, Is it time yet to re-visit the argument about whether to keep or trade that #1 pick? Or should we start with if Jags should keep or fire Urban? Ha!

I will always maintain that if you have earned the #1 pick, you have more needs than can be addressed by the #1 pick. You’ll rarely be better off picking one player rather than stockpiling.

Looking at the last 30 years of the draft, the #1 picks that really stand out are Bruce Smith, Troy Aikman, and Peyton Manning. None of them saw immediate success. All of them had losing seasons as rookies. Manning was the only one above .500 in his 2nd. In all 3 cases, their teams needed to pick up more players in subsequent drafts to get them to the playoffs. The Bills and Cowboys especially had some really good drafts in the years after getting Smith and Aikman…the Colts found pieces, but didn’t have one huge year.

seems to me that you’re far more likely to misfire on the #1 and doom your team to more losing (there are a lot more than 3 total busts in the same period). Better to move back, address multiple needs, and stockpile picks over the next few years. That also gives you greater draft capital to potentially move up and get the #1 when you think you can actually get the missing piece.

 

[random soul]

Unless you're a playoff caliber team everywhere BUT quarterback and traded up, drafting a QB with the first pick seems dumb. There's WAY too much wrong with your team to put it all on the shoulders of a kid fresh out of college

 

[sellas]

 

[Coug90]

I'm incredibly biased, but it seems clear GM could be a decent starting QB, especially if he found a way to be on a decent team with a real shot at the job. He's a winner and you could see the making of something there, even as a rookie and then when he ostensibly was given a shot, albeit on a tanking team where he was running around for his life on most passing downs. Just compare him to Foles, Lawrence, and whoever else was deigned to succeed but he was better than. He's cheap, too. Unfortunately, it looks like those years in which he's cheap and could be on a loaded team as a capable starter that left a lot of cap for addressing other needs, he instead will be holding a clipboard.

He would be QB1 of a division leader and have them in the mix for HFA if the Broncos had picked him up instead of going with mediocre retread 2 yard Teddy. Not a doubt in my mind. He schooled the Broncos in Mile High while Elway watched from the press box.

There’s a lot of NFL GMs that think they are way smarter than they are.