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[Coug90]

What's funny about Biggs' complaints is how much they ignore reality. USC pissed down their leg to lose to a Tulane team with far less talent in the Cotton Bowl. Utah got boatraced by Penn State. Kentucky got skunked 21-0 by a 7-5 Iowa squad that was beat by a 4-8 Nebraska team in the final game of the regular season. #23 NC State lost to unranked 7-5 Maryland in their bowl game. #13 Florida State struggled to beat a 6-6 Oklahoma team that had lost 3 of its last 4 games. San Diego State got beat by a middle of the pack Middle Tennessee State team. Baylor got thumped by Air Force. There were a number of other bowl games where favored teams struggled or lost to teams that were not perceived as threats.

As I've said before, I'm not sold that Dickert can make WSU compete at the highest level. Right now, it feels like he's good enough to get us 6-8 wins in any given year but hasn't shown that he can get us over the top against "good" teams. However, if we can win 6-8 games per year and then figure out bowl games.....he would be our most successful coach by winning percentage in decades. Is that good enough? Depends on the fan. I know I really hated finishing 3-9 and 4-8.

Yup, the transitive property does not work in CFB.

There’s nothing I’m seeing that tells me WSU won’t be at 6-8 wins consistently. Can he get those couple of big wins a year that puts you an AC win away from a p12CG? TBD. Considering the way we competed with the big boys last year I’m optimistic.

 

[Stretch 74]

IIRC, wasn't "The Bubble" pretty state of the art for its time? It cost like $14M in 2001 dollars, so it wasn't like Rick Dickson or Jim Sterk went cheap.

Also, Mik do you know what the future plane for "The Bubble" is once Schulz and Chun get their new IPF completed?

Assuming they'll re-purpose it someone around campus or in Pullman, right?

I don't know about the bubble being "state of the art", even back then. Pretty sure the bubble was Plan B or Plan C. They tried to raise money for a true indoor paractice facility and failed to get enough for that, so they switched to what was called an interim or temporary solution just so we would get something done. Supposedly it was built so that the foundation and I think some of the infrastructure could be used for the permanent building after they raised enough money for removal of the ASS (that would be the Air Supported Structure).

Since it was supposed to be a temporary facility, that is why they didn't put the personalized bricks into place for years and years. They wanted to hold off and put the bricks in the permanent facility, but failure to fund raise and pressure from those of us that put out the $1,000 to qualify for the brick honor finally shamed them into putting them on a patio or something outside the main entrance. I think I saw mine there once.........

 

[LeachPack]

Contributing to this is the mess our program was from 2003-2012. WSU allowed a solid decade of bad football, which meant at least 7 entire graduating classes who never saw a decent team, and never learned to care about WSU football at all. Those people should now be the ones who are getting season tickets and bringing their kids…but they aren’t.

The fans from the 80s and 90s are starting to age out. They’re buying fewer seats, coming to fewer games, and starting to move into fixed incomes. Their donations aren’t going to grow. Fans from the 2000s should be the core now…but there aren’t enough of them who care. The ones from the 2010s haven’t gotten where they’re bringing the kids yet…if they care.

This is WSU’s failure to invest in game day 20 years ago leading to low returns.

Brilliant post. Makes a lot of sense.

My niece and nephew were students during this stretch. I asked them about the home FB games one time. They said they don’t even go. I was floored! I never would have missed a game as a student, but I understand why they did.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Thanks Stretch,

Have you heard about any plans to repurpose the Air Supported Structure for some other campus usage? Seems like something could be done

 

[dgibbons]

I don't know about the bubble being "state of the art", even back then. Pretty sure the bubble was Plan B or Plan C. They tried to raise money for a true indoor paractice facility and failed to get enough for that, so they switched to what was called an interim or temporary solution just so we would get something done. Supposedly it was built so that the foundation and I think some of the infrastructure could be used for the permanent building after they raised enough money for removal of the ASS (that would be the Air Supported Structure).

Since it was supposed to be a temporary facility, that is why they didn't put the personalized bricks into place for years and years. They wanted to hold off and put the bricks in the permanent facility, but failure to fund raise and pressure from those of us that put out the $1,000 to qualify for the brick honor finally shamed them into putting them on a patio or something outside the main entrance. I think I saw mine there once.........

Correct. WSU fell short of the fundraising goal for a "permanent" structure, but it was enough for ASS.

 

[Stretch 74]

Thanks Stretch,

Have you heard about any plans to repurpose the Air Supported Structure for some other campus usage? Seems like something could be done

Nothing recently that I can confirm. I THINK that the original plan was that it could be relocated and used specifically for tennis and some other activities, but that is just something I may or may not be recalling correctly. Sorry I can't be more definitive.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Nothing recently that I can confirm. I THINK that the original plan was that it could be relocated and used specifically for tennis and some other activities, but that is just something I may or may not be recalling correctly. Sorry I can't be more definitive.

Thanks.

Schultz and Chun seem to pride themselves on being "the smartest guys in the room" (and maybe they are), so hopefully they've met with the facilities staff and campus engineers to make good use of the A.S.S.

This could potentially be tremendous as a tennis/soccer IPF. Maybe even fabricate a mini-driving range and a putting green for the golf teams.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Correct. WSU fell short of the fundraising goal for a "permanent" structure, but it was enough for ASS.

Loyal, I think D-Gib set you up to deliver the punchline ...

 

[95coug]

Thanks.

Schultz and Chun seem to pride themselves on being "the smartest guys in the room" (and maybe they are), so hopefully they've met with the facilities staff and campus engineers to make good use of the A.S.S.

This could potentially be tremendous as a tennis/soccer IPF. Maybe even fabricate a mini-driving range and a putting green for the golf teams.

If Schulz and Chun go into a room with the campus engineers, they’ll definitely be the smartest ones in the room. But they won’t come out with any good ideas.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Loyal, I think D-Gib set you up to deliver the punchline ...

orrect. WSU fell short of the fundraising goal for a "permanent" structure, but it was enough for ASS.

I don't do butt sex. Or men in general. And Gibby ain't that cute anyway.

 

[How_did_this_happen?]

No one argues with the fact WSU is at a serious disadvantage in terms of money. Look at WSU historically and you'll see a program with a .498% winning percentage, only has a winning record all time against one P12 opponent (Oregon St), and has, until recently, struggled to avoid losing seasons even with great coaching. Losing to WSU has gotten conference opponents fired for decades. Despite this, the perception is WSU punches above its weight.

Unless we get a Phil Knight style sugar daddy, the disadvantages are only going to get worse.

An honest assessment of the 2022 season gives a lot of credit to Dickert for winning the games we should have won. Remember even when our opponents are in disarray, they are typically more talented.

I'm surprised we have a losing record vs Cal....and Zona. No excuse for that.

 

[95coug]

I'm surprised we have a losing record vs Cal....and Zona. No excuse for that.

We’re 7-6 all time against colorado, so technically we have a winning record against 2 conference teams.

What’s surprising is how far behind Arizona and cal we are.

UA 19-27
ASU 17-27-2
Cal 30-48-5
CU. 7-6. (5-2 since they joined the pac-12)
OSU 56-48-3
Stan 31-40-1
UCLA. 20-41-1
UO 42-51-7 (2 forfeits among our wins)
USC 10-63-4
UU 9-11
UW 33-75-6

Good news though - we’re 73-17-3 all time against Idaho.

 

[Coug90]

We’re 7-6 all time against colorado, so technically we have a winning record against 2 conference teams.

What’s surprising is how far behind Arizona and cal we are.

UA 19-27
ASU 17-27-2
Cal 30-48-5
CU. 7-6. (5-2 since they joined the pac-12)
OSU 56-48-3
Stan 31-40-1
UCLA. 20-41-1
UO 42-51-7 (2 forfeits among our wins)
USC 10-63-4
UU 9-11
UW 33-75-6

Good news though - we’re 73-17-3 all time against Idaho.

Arizona had a solid stretch of FB in the 80s and 90s I think.

 

[dgibbons]

We’re 7-6 all time against colorado, so technically we have a winning record against 2 conference teams.

What’s surprising is how far behind Arizona and cal we are.

UA 19-27
ASU 17-27-2
Cal 30-48-5
CU. 7-6. (5-2 since they joined the pac-12)
OSU 56-48-3
Stan 31-40-1
UCLA. 20-41-1
UO 42-51-7 (2 forfeits among our wins)
USC 10-63-4
UU 9-11
UW 33-75-6

Good news though - we’re 73-17-3 all time against Idaho.

Well, 1945 to 1987 wasn't exactly a great time to be a Coug.

 

[Cougini5591]

Well, 1945 to 1987 wasn't exactly a great time to be a Coug.

I know what you mean, but there's some bullshit on that too.

It's ALWAYS been a great time to be a Coug.

Ruining the fuskies souls in Apple Cups made me the man I am today.

 

[Coug90]

I know what you mean, but there's some bullshit on that too.

It's ALWAYS been a great time to be a Coug.

Ruining the fuskies souls in Apple Cups made me the man I am today.

This right here. We could go 0-12 every year and still wear my Coug gear w pride. I know not what Dgib meant but being a Coug is special and no amount of beatdowns changes that.

 

[PeteTheChop]

We could go 0-12 every year and still wear my Coug gear w pride.

Fortunately, 0-12 belongs to someone else

 

[Loyal Coug1]

This right here. We could go 0-12 every year and still wear my Coug gear w pride. I know not what Dgib meant but being a Coug is special and no amount of beatdowns changes that.

It's a Coug thing. People don't understand. I say that all the time.