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Though I know it sounds communist, I’d like to see some sort of luxury tax for players and coaches. No limit to what you make but after a certain amount, you’re taxed at a high level and it’s distributed throughout the NCAA. Keep football money in Football, tennis money in Tennis etc.
Communist would take it all, give you what they say you need, and tell you you should be grateful that you’re allowed to benefit the collective…while those in power keep most of it.
But the big problem with this idea is that the NCAA can’t control NIL. Funding for it - at least officially - comes from outside of the system and the member institutions.
You can’t cap the pay, but you can cap the roster, you can cap the number of transfer portal players a team can sign each year, cap number scholarships to portal transfers, get 2 in return for each starter that leaves, put more limits on when you can opt into the portal. There are a lot of things can be limited or controlled without limiting NIL money.
I'm finding myself wondering if the next decade might bring some return to power football. Once defenses get good enough at defending the pass, it might get harder to build a roster that can hold up against an offense built to blow people off the line and run them over. Not sure it'd be a strategy that'd work for a middling school against bluebloods who get their pick of personnel, but for a group of five school that wants to win their conference title and everyone else is running some form of Air Raid/Spread Option and defends accordingly, it could be an interesting approach.
A small handful of skill players/athletes might be good enough to be in an NFL camp every year, but there's no way linemen/linebackers/tight ends/quarterbacks could go straight from high school to the NFL without an intermediate developmental league. There's just way too much physical and skills development there to be done for that to be worthwhile for a pro team.
I really like the 3-3-5, and I think it’s a system that would work well here, especially considering how often we have trouble landing interior DL guys.
I remember we played New Mexico one year, and on paper we should have dominated them. But they ran the 3-3-5 and confused the hell out of our offense. They brought pressure from everywhere and neither our OL or our QB could figure out how to read it.
To do that, you also have to build a dominant defense. The air raid/spread teams are built to score quickly and a lot. Power football is going to keep the score down and typically have longer drives. If you’re going to take 5-6 minutes and 15 plays to score, and average 21-28 points, your defense has to force the AR teams to score less.
2003, Rocky Long punked our offense in that game. I was in the stands getting grumpier every series.
It isnt power football so much as it is numbers. You will see teams out number defenses at the point of attack and then add rpo.
Yet another reason why Dickfore’s 425 is awful. Too easy to manipulate and out number. Don’t believe me? Ask the uw…. uo….. fresno lol
Sounds about right. I spent the first half cursing our inept offense, and the second recognizing that the defensive plan was outstanding.
WSU’s Coug Raid scored 41 touchdowns in 13 games. Even Leach couldn’t muster much for points …. Air Force crushed him.
The air raid is good for 21 points per game. It’s high scoring days are over. Air raid is the new wishbone.
Right, hence the old-timey fixation with off-tackle plays to the strong side, or flood concepts to put outnumbered zone defenders in a bind. I still like the old Doba defenses: 2 tough tackles, your two best edge rushers outside that, 3 high school running backs at linebacker that are basically safeties running free behind those big tackles, and the fastest collection of defensive backs you can roll out there. Until a team rolls out 4 wideouts, you don't really need to change packages that much, because those linebackers should be able to run with tight ends and backs at least long enough for the edge rushers to make things interesting. It's not exotic, but it can handle a variety of approaches without a lot of personnel changes
my memory is a little better than that, I wouldn’t say Leachs offense couldn’t score points based on one service academy bowl game.
youmhave to evaluate starting with one key point...WSU is not going to get the top talent and doesn’t have much money. So which offense gives you the most bang for your buck.
there are variations of the air raid all over college football, Kittley is one of the hottest names out there.
So what do you do when you play 5 DBs against 4 WRs and still get beat???? 🤔 It’s ok if you don’t know the answer. Neither does Dickfore.
Should I add more games? Cause he has a laundry list of games he couldn’t score points in. It wasn’t just being wildly out coached in the bowl game against AF.
If Im WSU I move away from spread and air raid altogether. In terms of bang for the buck, I think Oregon State is headed in the right direction.
If you are not able to out talent teams you better out coach them with smoke, mirrors, impossible decisions, numbers and angles. The air raid does none of those things.
You just wrong on this one.
The AR, when executed correctly, is simplicity at its best - be where the defender isn't. The problem is getting all of the parts clicking together to make it work, and having a coach willing to make tweaks/ adjustments when you're outmatched, eg their DL is destroying your OL every play.
But yes, CML's stubborn play calling and refusal to run against light boxes definitely makes the AR one dimensional and easier to defend, especially if 3 are getting home against 5.
So you think Leach resurrected a program in ruins on a small budget without much in the way of a regional recruiting footprint.........in spite of his offense ?
id Say he did pretty well at WSU.
Honestly an under-appreciated element of the Air Raid, that I didn't grasp until I was watching it week after week, is how dependent it is on the quarterback seeing the field if their first read is taken away. Most college quarterbacks aren't super great at that. Watch Luke Falk versus Gardner Minshew, for example. The reason one is a decent NFL quarterback and the other isn't has nothing to do with smarts or preparation. It's vision and processing speed. A great Air Raid quarterback needs to have that, kind of intuitively. Go read that old Athletic article about Leach in meetings with his quarterbacks for another illustration of that. Guys like Halliday would ask for more checks, more intellectualizing and systematizing, and Leach would just say "Just find the open guy." There aren't that many QBs that are super good at that in live game action, and it's a limitation on the scheme. It's like trying to find a wishbone quarterback that could also throw the ball well.
I think a more accurate read would be to say that Leach resurrected the program, but the same offense he used to do it also imposed a hard cap on what he could achieve because of how inflexible he was about adapting it to different opposition from game to game.
I’ve kind of come to the conclusion, Leachs offense like any offense will only take you so far given the talent disparity. When he has a good seasoned qb a quality o line and reciever talent, he’s pretty damned good. He wasn’t ever at a school that could just reload and go 11-2 every year.
yea if he’s playing front sevens loaded with nfl players that can dismantle his o,line , then the whole offense breaks down, especially those years where his o line was not that good or his qb was mediocre, that was true at Tech, WSU and MSU.
but overall he did a lot with less, he’s one of the greatest coaches at winning at underdog schools and building programs ive seen Since I’ve been following football. It was fun because you were always dangerous, teams didn’t like facing you and you always felt like you had a punchers chance.
I am not opposed to adding more runs to the offense like Kittley or some of the other air raid variations. Tight end is also a good variation.
good quality tight ends are hard to come by, and that takes us back to square one.....lack of money and not getting top shelf talent. Quick receivers are easier to find.
Playing a scheme featuring small DL…. you’re going to get gashed up the middle.
If you can’t stop the inside run, it’ll be a long day.
If you can’t stop the deep ball, it’ll be a quick day.
If you can’t stop either???? 702 yards given up in the Apple Cup.
Im not saying he didn’t do well. Im saying I can go thru every season he was here and point to plenty of games the offense scored 21 or less. It wasnt 1 game. It was multiple.
He took the air raid as far as it was gonna go. He ran the most vanilla version of it. Again, the air raid is the new wishbone. Unless you’re gonna run the qb and back, air raid is done.
I disagree with your comment about tight ends. I think it’s the easiest position to find. Tall, lanky, can run a little bit? Tons of those kids available. You have to grow them into 250ish pounds though.
if You look at miss state this year, I think on paper they have the Least amount of talent in the sec other than two teams, they have the smallest budget in the sec other than two teams. Yet they were 8-4 , finished third in the sec west and were a good team. That was typical leach. He lost four games, against #1 Georgia, on the road at LSU and on the road at Alabama. Those teams had a big enough talent advantage, they could shut him down. I don’t care what coach or what scheme, you aren’t winning those games.
his qb was not good, weaker than most of the qbs he had at WSU and his o line was kind of thrown together off the scrap heap.
that season kind of explains the success and limitations of Leach and the reality of the Programs he’s coached at.
it would have been interesting to see what his system would do at a blue blood school, where he unlimited funds and could reload every year with four and five star talent. I don’t think he would have lost too many games With a good dc.
his qb was not good, weaker than most of the qbs he had at WSU and his o line was kind of thrown together off the scrap heap.
that season kind of explains the success and limitations of Leach and the reality of the Programs he’s coached at.
it would have been interesting to see what his system would do at a blue blood school, where he unlimited funds and could reload every year with four and five star talent. I don’t think he would have lost too many games With a good dc.
Having a Minshew makes the AR even better, but obviously not necessary.
But yes, if you watch any GOOD college qb, they have a pretty good idea of where the defense will be and where they are going with the ball by the time the ball is snapped. Brady became the goat because he knew where to put the ball and had it there within 2 seconds on most plays.
minshew needs to be a starter in The nfl. He’s a great qb, given the right system he’d be a beast, I’d like to see him with the Patriots, he’s much better than Mac Jones.
Spot on. If Leach consistently won in his tenure here despite the smallest budget and pulling in classes ranked in the bottom half of the conference, I'm not going to nit pick his schemes. Find me a coach who is doing more with less and he's a hall of famer.
