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TX State sounds like the pick

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As of Monday PM, both Yahoo Sports and OregonLive sports have TX State penciled in as the 8th member.

The announcement is supposedly to come in the next 2 days. The media deal is anchored by CBS sports, no
word yet on the amount per school OR what additional networks will get the crumbs.

Cougs and Beavs have been the left overs and now it seems that they only have a left over to take !
 
Like I said 2 days ago, it not only LOOKS, it is happening !

Don't know how to feel, recruiting could be a wash, why come all the way to Pullman when you can stay and play close to home.

Cougs may have added another ( think Boise State ) tough rival.
 
Like I said 2 days ago, it not only LOOKS, it is happening !

Don't know how to feel, recruiting could be a wash, why come all the way to Pullman when you can stay and play close to home.

Cougs may have added another ( think Boise State ) tough rival.
Gee - if you look at "similar threads", you will find that the Mighty, All-knowing, Nostradamus-like Loyal One announced this on March 3. Glad to see you lemmings are catching up.

Still a huge disappointment but I knew it was coming. We "swung for the fences" and hit a dribbler back to the pitcher.
 
Loyal NONE - announced on March 3, and 60 days later, in May, NOTHING still had happened !

Two days ago I posted that it would happen in 2 days, AND tonight it IS happening !

YES, you are 2 + 2 = 5, the blowhard of this board ! Congrats on being last, once again, id10t !
 
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Gee - if you look at "similar threads", you will find that the Mighty, All-knowing, Nostradamus-like Loyal One announced this on March 3. Glad to see you lemmings are catching up.

Still a huge disappointment but I knew it was coming. We "swung for the fences" and hit a dribbler back to the pitcher.
Sac State is where you stood your ground.

Remember?
 
UTSA joining in 2027 would dodge the higher buyout and would give pieces of the Austin and San Antonio markets. And…that’s about it.
This kind of sounds like the NIU fan on the WCS board bragging about their #3 media market (Chicago), even though they are what - 40-50 miles away? And averaged just over 10,000 in home FB attendance last year?
 
UTSA joining in 2027 would dodge the higher buyout and would give pieces of the Austin and San Antonio markets. And…that’s about it.
Neither one is any great shakes, but adding UTSA if we already had Texas State wouldn't mean much. Texas State in theory is giving us a piece of the entire Austin - San Antonio region, since it straddles the two and has a decent chunk of alumni in both places. I'd expect the Pac-12 to instead try to get a north Texas school like UNT if trying to get another school in the region. All of these are suboptimal options but at least UNT gives the D/FW market in theory, even though in actuality nobody other than their alumni give a damn about any of these schools.
 
There are questions about whether or not the link I provided in the previous post is a legit publication. However, Pete Thamel just posted the same info:

https://www.espn.com/contributor/pete-thamel/06aeaaf43b8f3

Sources: Texas State is amid the final steps of accepting an invitation to the Pac-12, as it has initiated the process of calling a board meeting for Monday to execute the acceptance. Texas State began alerting Sun Belt officials of its formal offer and plans to accept. The Pac-12 and Texas State are expected to finalize a deal soon for the 2026-27 school year.

 
How about Memphis as a "football only" member? If Memphis came as a football only school, they could put the rest of their sports in the Big East Conference (which doesn't have football).

That might could happen 🤔

Kinda get the feeling that Memphis is saving its powder for the next Big XII expansion — whether it's in 2031 or within the next couple years when the ACC unravels
 
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Pac-12 invites Texas State to become critical eighth all-sports member​


Jon Wilner
June 26, 2025

The Pac-12 has extended an invitation to Texas State to join the conference as an all-sports member beginning in the summer of 2026, an industry source confirmed late Thursday night. But it could be a few days before any move is finalized.

The Bobcats, who compete in the Sun Belt, cannot formally accept the invitation without approval from the university’s governing board, which is expected to meet Monday.

If the Bobcats accept, as expected, the Pac-12 will meet a critical membership threshold.

The rebuilt conference has seven all-sports schools secured for the summer of 2026, plus Gonzaga, which does not play football. A minimum of eight all-sports members is needed to meet certification requirements.

Texas State is located in San Marcos, between San Antonio and Austin. The Austin Sports Journal was the first to report the invitation.

Monday is a critical day — the last of the fiscal year. If the Bobcats don’t inform the Sun Belt of their intent to withdraw by Tuesday, July 1, their exit fee would increase from $5 million to $10 million.

The Pac-12 was down to Washington State and Oregon State after 10 legacy schools officially departed last August. A month later, the conference accepted Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State and Utah State from the Mountain West. It then added Gonzaga but was still one all-sports member short.

It targeted Texas State for a variety of reasons, including its location in the football-crazed state, willingness to invest in athletics and potential to become an impact program at the sub-Power Four level.

Also, the conference has long been interested in planting its banner in Texas.

Three previous commissioners (Tom Hansen, Larry Scott and George Kliavkoff) either considered expanding into Texas or made formal attempts to lure schools from the Lone Star State.

Teresa Gould, who took charge of the conference in early 2024, is the first to succeed.

Granted, the Pac-12 is a different conference than it was before the 10 schools departed last summer.

Also, Texas State is not Texas, Texas A&M or even Texas Tech.

But on a relative basis, the move serves a comparable purpose in growing the Pac-12’s footprint into one of the most populous, football-obsessed and talent-rich states in the country.

The Bobcats spent much of their history competing in the lower divisions. They transitioned to the Football Bowl Subdivision in 2012 and spent one year in the WAC before switching to the Sun Belt.

Their resume features just two postseason appearances: The 2023 and 2024 First Responders Bowls under coach G.J. Kinne.

Jon Wilner
 
This is a massive disappointment.

Hopefully the new commissioner didn't kowtow to the greedy TX ST president and give him a full bowl of soup.

Gotta think St. Mary's for basketball, Dallas Baptist College for baseball and a football-only program (Memphis? Tulane? South Florida? Sacramento State?) are still on Theresa Gold's expansion radar
 
The massive disappointment was while our President was briefing BOR on the exciting new media deal, the rest of the conference was launching their exit plans.

Everything since then has been window dressing.

Prior to the Pac-12's mass exodus, John Wilner was touting Schultzie as a savvy leader and potentially the next president of the NCAA
 
My reaction to the official news: "Go ahead and clap. Mediocrity deserves applause. Why don't we go find a Ford Focus and clap around it!"
 
There are only two schools I would rather have had, and neither was available. UNLV for a combination of reasons, the biggest of which was financial. And Air Force, where the primary reason was political. Both of those could easily change as time passes, and I'm sure we'd look at them seriously if the opportunity presented itself. Now we need another school in that general direction. UTSA, like WSU and OSU, has graduates all over their state. Ideally the second school would be more central to either DFW or Houston.
 
That might could happen 🤔

Kinda get the feeling that Memphis is saving its powder for the next Big XII expansion — whether it's in 2031 or within the next couple years when the ACC unravels
Everyone is angling for the next expansion. It's not an accident that the end of the new media deal with CBS coincides with the end of the Big 12 deal.

This version of the Pac-12 is a placeholder. It'll change again in 2031...at the latest.
 
There are only two schools I would rather have had, and neither was available. UNLV for a combination of reasons, the biggest of which was financial. And Air Force, where the primary reason was political. Both of those could easily change as time passes, and I'm sure we'd look at them seriously if the opportunity presented itself. Now we need another school in that general direction. UTSA, like WSU and OSU, has graduates all over their state. Ideally the second school would be more central to either DFW or Houston.

UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, AF, UTSA are the only better possibilities, if they had, were to happen.

After those options Texas St was, is a ok option. Its neither a massive disappointment, neither good or bad. Its just a mediocre, average option at this the G5, hybrid G5/semi P5 level.

Texas St is better then Hawai, Nevada, New Mexico, Wyoming, SJSU, New Mexico St, UTEP, NIU, the Bottom Dwellers of the MWC.

Texas St will be between a semi bottom dweller and middle of the conference, and is about on par with Utah St, and CSU

And thats ok because Utah St, CSU, Texas St will be competitive enough, while still being probably wins for BSU, Fresno St, WSU, OSU in football, making it so that BSU, WSU, OSU, Fresno St will usually be the USC's of the PAC 12, and win conference championships, goto CFP, because Texas St, Utah St, Texas St, are both competitive, strong enough and easy enough at the same time.

Now PAC 12 either gets Memphis, or Tulane, or UTSA, or UNT, or New Mexico St football wise.

Then gets St Mary's for Basketball and their baseball, Olympic sports.

So Texas St is a ok START, and not as bad as some think.
 
UNLV, Memphis, Tulane, AF, UTSA are the only better possibilities, if they had, were to happen.

After those options Texas St was, is a ok option. Its neither a massive disappointment, neither good or bad. Its just a mediocre, average option at this the G5, hybrid G5/semi P5 level.

Texas St is better then Hawai, Nevada, New Mexico, Wyoming, SJSU, New Mexico St, UTEP, NIU, the Bottom Dwellers of the MWC.

Texas St will be between a semi bottom dweller and middle of the conference, and is about on par with Utah St, and CSU

And thats ok because Utah St, CSU, Texas St will be competitive enough, while still being probably wins for BSU, Fresno St, WSU, OSU in football, making it so that BSU, WSU, OSU, Fresno St will usually be the USC's of the PAC 12, and win conference championships, goto CFP, because Texas St, Utah St, Texas St, are both competitive, strong enough and easy enough at the same time.

Now PAC 12 either gets Memphis, or Tulane, or UTSA, or UNT, or New Mexico St football wise.

Then gets St Mary's for Basketball and their baseball, Olympic sports.

So Texas St is a ok START, and not as bad as some think.
I hope WSU is never the USC of anything. The best thing about the implosion of the Pac-12 is knowing that that damn band will never be back in Pullman.
 
Everyone is angling for the next expansion. It's not an accident that the end of the new media deal with CBS coincides with the end of the Big 12 deal.

This version of the Pac-12 is a placeholder. It'll change again in 2031...at the latest.

Yeah, IF the PAC 12 does good, and if WSU, does good, and IF the ACC loses FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, Miami, Or IF the Big 12 gets raided, then either WSU could end up backfilling the ACC, along with BSU, Memphis, Tulane, etc, or the whole PAC 12 could merge with ACC, if the ACC loses enough teams.

The PAC 12, WSU is now WELL POSITIONED for that possibility IF that happens, and IF the PAC 12 does well, and IF WSU does well, awesome.

There is at least a chance now for all that for WSU now, so much so, that WSU's situation is not, or does not seem semi hopeless, etc.
 
Yeah, IF the PAC 12 does good, and if WSU, does good, and IF the ACC loses FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, Miami, Or IF the Big 12 gets raided, then either WSU could end up backfilling the ACC, along with BSU, Memphis, Tulane, etc, or the whole PAC 12 could merge with ACC, if the ACC loses enough teams.

The PAC 12, WSU is now WELL POSITIONED for that possibility IF that happens, and IF the PAC 12 does well, and IF WSU does well, awesome.

There is at least a chance now for all that for WSU now, so much so, that WSU's situation is not, or does not seem semi hopeless, etc.
WSU needs to draw eyeballs in this CBS deal, along with whatever deals come after it. We've got 5 years to pull solid viewership and prove that we have a following that's worth being part of a new deal. If we don't do quite a bit better than our 2024 numbers, we will not be included in the next round of expansion.

In other words, if you're going to games in Pullman, make sure you leave the TV on so it looks like you're watching on TV. Because now it really is more important to have TV viewers than butts in the seats.
 
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I predict WSU athletics will drop in viewership big time in the next 5 years. Not like the numbers mattered this time during realignment, but I foresee the cliff rapidly approaching.
 
WSU needs to draw eyeballs in this CBS deal, along with whatever deals come after it. We've got 5 years to pull solid viewership and prove that we have a following that's worth being part of a new deal. If we don't do quite a bit better than our 2024 numbers, we will not be included in the next round of expansion.

In other words, if you're going to games in Pullman, make sure you leave the TV on so it looks like you're watching on TV. Because now it really is more important to have TV viewers than butts in the seats.
Well if CBS means CBSSN for most games, good luck with drawing eyeballs. This is a shit deal, and it is obvious because we didn't announce the $$$'s. Which everybody always discloses. But not us.
 
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Video Killed the Radio Star.
USC killed the Wazzu Cougzars.

It's. That. Simple.

To be fair, the vast majority of Cougar fans suck ass when it comes to supporting the program. I donate peanuts to WSU and its enough to put me in the upper half of donors. We win online voting polls but we suck at ponying up money to support WSU. WSU killed WSU. The leadership of the school has been mediocre for most of the past three decades too...but our fans expend more time making excuses about why it's tough to be a fan than any group I've ever seen. Cyclone fans went over 100 years without a 10 win season but they dragged their asses all over the country at the first hint of success.

It's gotten so bad that I now get great seats to WSU away games ever since Leach left because everyone spends their time bitching instead of supporting the team. We deserve our fate.

Now, to be fair, there is a core group of great fans that are truly devoted and better than any of us....but 95% of Coug fans blow.
 
I predict WSU athletics will drop in viewership big time in the next 5 years. Not like the numbers mattered this time during realignment, but I foresee the cliff rapidly approaching.

That will happen IF WSU does not do well, does not goto the Alamo, Holiday Bowl, does not win a PAC 12 championship, does not goto CFP, does not win 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 games in a season, etc.

If WSU does either goto Alamo, Holiday, CFP, win a PAC 12 championship, does win 9,10,11,12,13 games in a season, does have ESPN game day visit Pullman again, etc, then WSU's TV viewership would go up enough, that as long as WSU kept that up for 2,3,4 straight seasons, then WSU's TV viewership would end up high enough, that IF ACC did need a backfill, WSU would probably get invited.

WSU's viewership will not tank if WSU has enough sustained success, wins, Alamo Bowls, Holiday Bowls, Conference championships, CFP playoff appearances, ESPN Gameday, etc.

Now that is a tall order, but at least there is a chance, however small, and its not hopeless.
 
I predict WSU athletics will drop in viewership big time in the next 5 years. Not like the numbers mattered this time during realignment, but I foresee the cliff rapidly approaching.
Realistically, it's a descending spiral. Our numbers weren't good enough to land a media deal with a network that has wide viewership. So, we move to channels that people can't find, don't get, and/or aren't part of typical packages. So our viewership falls even more...so we get fewer games with wider exposure, and so on.

If we were entering the golden age of WSU football right now, where we were a good team that played an exciting style and had a charismatic leader, maybe we’d draw viewers. Instead we’ve got a coach nobody’s heard of, and thanks to the portal even our more devoted fans don’t know most of the names on the roster or what they look like on the field. Doesn’t bode well.
 
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