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UC Davis joins MWC; MWC offers Northern Illinois

FWIW, I'm betting that nobody gives a crap that UC Davis is joining the Mountain West. UNLV has got to be wondering how great it is to be aligned with an FCS school. But hey, Wulff is a "Volunteer Assistant Coach" there, so there's that.
 
Flatlandcoug said:
FWIW, I'm betting that nobody gives a crap that UC Davis is joining the Mountain West. UNLV has got to be wondering how great it is to be aligned with an FCS school. But hey, Wulff is a "Volunteer Assistant Coach" there, so there's that.
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Stupid F’ng move on their part. In today’s college football world they chose the death penalty and killed all of their programs momentum. They should have been jumping at the chance to join the pac. 95% of the time the short term money grab doesn’t pay off in the long run.

I know we have at least one UNLV regular here, I’m sorry your administration is somehow worse than ours 😕, that truly sucks.
 
Davis is an interesting case. I think this is a win for them. They take a lot of "minor" sports somewhat seriously, and going MWC (including hoops) is an upgrade for them. I also think it makes sense to pause on moving football out of FCS and into FBS at this time. The current NIL/Portal/linear vs streaming, etc., scenario is unsustainable. ESPN has not yet killed the golden goose, but they have greedily bled it pretty badly and something is going to change over the next 3-5 years. It is for darned sure that the next round of P4 media contracts will not be the same. If I were the Davis leadership I'd want to wait and see how things shake out before moving in football...but the rest of the sports bumped up a notch, and the door to moving in football will undoubtably be open if/when it looks like it makes sense at some point in the future, under different (any at all) rules. Don't underestimate Davis's stroke within the UC system, alum groups or the CA legislature. That is one reason why Cal and UCLA did all they could to hold Davis back. For those of you who did not know, Davis split from Cal over 100 years ago to become the second UC school and CA's "Ag & engineering" school. They are generally considered to be the 3rd hardest UC school to get into, after Cal and UCLA (and marginally ahead of UCSD, who is marginally ahead of Irvine, etc., etc.).

Also recognize that Gloria and the MWC are keenly aware that they are losing significant California presence to the NewPAC. Davis is a partial answer to that. If things go well for Davis, expect their arch rival (Cal Poly SLO) to follow.
 
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cr8zyncalif said:
Davis is an interesting case. I think this is a win for them. They take a lot of "minor" sports somewhat seriously, and going MWC (including hoops) is an upgrade for them. I also think it makes sense to pause on moving football out of FCS and into FBS at this time. The current NIL/Portal/linear vs streaming, etc., scenario is unsustainable. ESPN has not yet killed the golden goose, but they have greedily bled it pretty badly and something is going to change over the next 3-5 years. It is for darned sure that the next round of P4 media contracts will not be the same. If I were the Davis leadership I'd want to wait and see how things shake out before moving in football...but the rest of the sports bumped up a notch, and the door to moving in football will undoubtably be open if/when it looks like it makes sense at some point in the future, under different (any at all) rules. Don't underestimate Davis's stroke within the UC system, alum groups or the CA legislature. That is one reason why Cal and UCLA did all they could to hold Davis back. For those of you who did not know, Davis split from Cal over 100 years ago to become the second UC school and CA's "Ag & engineering" school. They are generally considered to be the 3rd hardest UC school to get into, after Cal and UCLA (and marginally ahead of UCSD, who is marginally ahead of Irvine, etc., etc.).

Also recognize that Gloria and the MWC are keenly aware that they are losing significant California presence to the NewPAC. Davis is a partial answer to that. If things go well for Davis, expect their arch rival (Cal Poly SLO) to follow.
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Good for UC-Davis. Incomprehensible for the MW. "Meet our valuable new member, bringing horse-riding and men's soccer to the MW. Oh yeah FB remains in the Big Sky."
 
UC Davis has a very good medical school and a good law school, as mentioned it is a difficult school to get into. Academically it is a very solid school, their academic rating is much higher than WSU. In the long run they have much more potential than Sac St., due to their academics, and if they commit to athletics, they could have a lot more potential than many schools currently in the MW.
 
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UC Davis has a very good medical school and a good law school, as mentioned it is a difficult school to get into. Academically it is a very solid school, their academic rating is much higher than WSU. In the long run they have much more potential than Sac St., due to their academics, and if they commit to athletics, they could have a lot more potential than many schools currently in the MW.
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None of which has anything to do with college sports. This isn't your old Pac-12. And the MW has never been about academics (example: Boise Junior College and Trucking School). Explain to us how a school that has a 10,000 seat FB stadium and is remaining in the Big Sky for FB does anything to elevate the MW.
 
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Regarding UC Davis's football team not moving to the Mountain West Conference... A poster on a Reddit posted this:

NCAA Bylaw 20.5.3 Championships Eligibility.

A member of Division I that has forwarded to the national office written notice of its intention to change its football membership classification from Championship Subdivision to Bowl Subdivision per Bylaw 20.5.2.1 no longer shall be eligible for participation in the Division I Football Championship.
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(Back to Dave_86: ) Apparently UC Davis' football team is in the playoffs. If UC Davis announces now that they're moving to the MWC, then they are disqualified from the playoff.

I did several internet searches to see if I could confirm this entire 20.5.3 thing, but failed to do so.
 
Now... here's the question that's being asked at other message boards: why did the MWC end up getting U.C. Davis and not Sacramento State? It seems like if Sacramento St can't get into the PAC-12, then their back up plan would be the MWC. Given Sac St is committed to building a new football stadium and has raised over $50M of NIL pledges, then it seems like the MWC should prefer Sac St over UC Davis.

I know that a majority of Beaver fans and Cougar fans are opposed to Sacramenta State joining the PAC-12. But what if the plan is something like this:

Step 1: PAC-12 grabs a school like Texas State A.S.A.P. to get to 8 football schools.

Step 2: Sacramento State leaves the Big Sky, announcing they are going independent and are moving to Football Bowl Subdivision (same level as PAC-12).

Step 3: Sac State plays as an independent FBS for two years, 2026 & 2027, but schedules all PAC-12 teams those 2 seasons. With just 8 football teams, the PAC-12 will need some scheduling help.

Step 4: Sac State joins the PAC-12 as football member for the 2028 season, giving the PAC-12 9 football schools.
 
Dave, your scenario would also allow time for them to build the stadium. Works for me.

Sac State and Davis combined would bring a lot of NorCal eyeballs. Cal Poly SLO brings roughly a 50-60% NorCal vs 40-50% SoCal lean to the CA presence in the state, so the three of them would be significant however they end up affiliating. MWC lost FSU & SDSU, keeping San Jose State. What all of that is worth depends to a large extent on how you think the media situation will play out. Linear lives/dies with TV market. Streaming lives/dies with eyeballs on screens and clickbait. What combination will play out over the next 5 years?
 
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None of which has anything to do with college sports. This isn't your old Pac-12. And the MW has never been about academics (example: Boise Junior College and Trucking School). Explain to us how a school that has a 10,000 seat FB stadium and is remaining in the Big Sky for FB does anything to elevate the MW.
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Let me explain, since you seemed to miss this part. Law Schools and Medical Schools graduate students that typically earn more than the average graduate, which means more money back to the University. Will they contribute to sports programs? many won't but some will, which are two professions many universities can't draw from.
 
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"Overwhelming" and "extraordinary" response. Well I'm fat dumb and happy now! :)

P.S. What a crock of shit............
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It just needs more context. The next few words might make it more clear.

“The response has been overwhelming. I just can’t believe these offers are even shittier than I thought. I wonder if C-USA is hiring?”
 
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