What dumbass thought it would be an OK idea to cut scholarships when they're expanding it to 105?
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Does WSU want to have a winning football team? Or does it want to just have a football team?
Time to remove the BoR and AD and start over.
It starts with McCoy. The BorR is NOT micromanaging her. If this report is accurate - some are suggesting this is not - it’s 100% on McCoy.
Schulz hired her to be the budget battle axe. She’ll cut, make dumb decisions and then retire with her pension blaming wsu alums for not giving more to a shit product that no one wants to buy. We lived this with Sterk. Anne was Jim’s CFO. This is what we get.
Schulz hired her to be the budget battle axe. She’ll cut, make dumb decisions and then retire with her pension blaming wsu alums for not giving more to a shit product that no one wants to buy. We lived this with Sterk. Anne was Jim’s CFO. This is what we get.
We did last year.
This year? I bet we don’t hire anyone until after the portal is closed.
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Price used to have success with the Prop 48 players back in the 80's and 90's getting kids out of JCs which couldn't get into other schools, they were here for a year or two, many had success, there were hits there were misses. We can't compete with most schools when it comes to NIL money, so you go to the portal with at least a scholarship. In some respects, have to look at the portal the same way we used to grab prop 48 players, there are diamonds in the rough, instead of academic issues, now you find kids that didn't get a chance because they were buried on the depth chart. The cheapest way to compete is to hire a good coach at a competitive salary, that has connections to hire a competent staff, and the increase the number of scholarships to create as much depth as possible. As mentioned there will be hits and misses on bringing the players, always has been this way, always will be. Reducing scholarships will reduce success.
Well the wetside legislators may be able to read if you use purple ink. For those actually living in WSU's district, good luck with our representatives who hail from Pomeroy, Ritzville and Colfax.
Wonder which women's sport(s) will endure the other (Title IX) 6 scholarship cuts?
Football scholarships need to be reduced in order to help fund more DEI hires and the new Administration exclusive cigar and brandy lounges being built on each campus.
Stop it. WSU Athletics doesn't have such a thing. Oh wait, I guess they do........
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I'm personally not interested in giving more until I start seeing WSU Athletics rolling up their sleeves and going to work. Guilt is not a successful donor engagement strategy. Inclusivity, and a sense of being on the "team" is. As discussed in the previous thread, if WSU was serious about cultivating donor engagement, start up the regional Cougar Club again....do something, but if we don't, we have a big problem.
1. Fans aren't going to show up to Martin stadium to watch us be a bottom feeder in the new Pac-12.
2. Donations will plummet if we slide to mid-tier G5 team.
3. WSU athletics is in major trouble if the school doesn't invest and sell the need to the BofR to why we need to invest.
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It always feels like WSU athletics just throws there hands up and says, "oh no, we can't make this work!" instead of getting creative. Blaming fans is their easiest move, instead of looking inward. They need to get creative...and fast. Any momentum they had from the Leach years is gone. There's no goodwill.
A questionable BoR, a lame-duck president in retirement-mode, combined with a penny-pinching AD. Everyone outside of those areas can see that is a major recipe for disaster.
Will you stop bitching and moaning though? I thought you were a season ticket holder in the suites.
I can have concerns (valid ones about the investment in WSU football) and don't need to hear the narrative of "we are doing our best" from WSU, just support us more. That not a winning mentality.
I am a season ticket holder. I will be on record as saying I am personally not going to drive from the Tacoma-area to Pullman to see us get beat by the likes of Colorado State, Fresno State and SDSU because WSU made the conscience choice to go cheap on football and not invest. It's not happening and I know a whole lot of Cougs that agree with me -- just look at the stands for the Wyoming game if you need a sample size.
Ttown... much appreciate you being a season ticket holder.
I also understand that making it to the games might seem a little bit different than before.
However, passing up on Games like San Jose State is kinda moronic as it was a crazy exciting game.
And I hope you're just venting, but don't be a Coug that only cares about the opposition. You sound like you'd be skipping out on Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, and Arizona games if we were still the true old Pac.
So what, you'd only show up for Oregon, Fusc, and fuw?
Watch and support the Cougs because they are the Cougs.
But on another note to this, you and just about everyone else here should NEVER stop striving, bitching, buying, donating, and to a certain extent "protesting" with the goal to make WSU better. At least there's a real passion to get WSU back on its feet again. Much appreciated.
Now... I'm buying more lottery tickets today and $100 million goes to Wazzu if I win. I swear on the Coug!
I also understand that making it to the games might seem a little bit different than before.
However, passing up on Games like San Jose State is kinda moronic as it was a crazy exciting game.
And I hope you're just venting, but don't be a Coug that only cares about the opposition. You sound like you'd be skipping out on Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, and Arizona games if we were still the true old Pac.
So what, you'd only show up for Oregon, Fusc, and fuw?
Watch and support the Cougs because they are the Cougs.
But on another note to this, you and just about everyone else here should NEVER stop striving, bitching, buying, donating, and to a certain extent "protesting" with the goal to make WSU better. At least there's a real passion to get WSU back on its feet again. Much appreciated.
Now... I'm buying more lottery tickets today and $100 million goes to Wazzu if I win. I swear on the Coug!
Tori needs the dinero to flesh her staff out by hiring one each of every minority imaginable plus at least 1 gay man, 1 lesbian, 1 trans man, 1 trans woman, 1 hermaphrodite, 1 cross dresser with the preferred pronoun; “he-whose-a- whatchama- call-it”, 1 bisexual and 1 zoophile. And a nice 6-figure salary bump to manage them all.Stop it. WSU Athletics doesn't have such a thing. Oh wait, I guess they do........
Tori Ector - Assistant Director of Athletics, Inclusion and Belonging - Staff Directory - Washington State University Athletics
Tori Ector was named Assistant Athletic Director for Inclusion and Belonging in December 2023. She is responsible for leading and advancing initiatives that promote
When money starts to dry up, protests will be heard. Unfortunately for WSU admin, they're behind the 8-ball and don't realize this will be coming sooner than later.
People aren't going to continue to invest - time and money - when the ROI isn't there. Everyone's definition of ROI can be different: wins, access, schedule, conference affiliation, game day atmosphere. I'd argue a lot of that is likely bundled together.
On paper SJSU isn't as exciting as Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, Arizona, etc. Who you play against matters. You don't think recruits care? They do. Even on a down year(s), the P10/P12 was perceived as better competition then a G5. WSU would win recruits just with affiliation.
Think of a company like Traeger Grills: they were "good" until private equity bought them, stripped them down, cut costs, and raised the price to maximize profit. With some research, many will learn they're not the same as they were...and those who genuinely care, are likely to buy another product.
And while private equity didn't buy a conference in this case, the conference was stripped down. And with that, WSU is cutting costs, and instead of looking to enhance their programs and be smart about it, they're expecting fans to continue to pay for a declining product like nothing has changed.
Just scroll down the entire Staff Directory. 9 "Senior" Athletics staff. Keep scrolling, past the sports. Now I mean no disrespect to any staff members personally. Academic Services - 9. The Asst AD in charge has a degree in Elementary Education. Seems fitting. Compliance? Staff of 4, this was 2 when I was there. Employee Experience - that's where our Senior Associate AD and SWA resides. I guess that must be HR? Don't forget 2 people in Student-Athlete Development.
Wonder how many of these at-will employees took a 10% pay cut?
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Edit - then there is Boise State........Goodbye DEI.....
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All good points. Tricky thing is this: all of this was, is, and -- with regard to your prediction, will be -- foreseeable, yet some don't seem to understand that. Even if the biggest issue was trying to get attendance, recruits, merch sales, donations, etc. at the same levels as previously for worse opponents with the very high bar for a season to be meaningful from a non-Power 4 conference, that would matter, although that alone would be survivable. But now you add to that the near-certain downward spiral from decreasing investments in the program that result from decreased media rights revenue -- we see it in coaching salaries, other budgets, and soon likely will see it with the pay and assistant budget for whoever we hire -- and couple that with less NIL money than anyone, and a location that isn't conducive to a ton of NIL opportunities, and the product on the field will get worse, contributing with the foregoing to a spiral. It will happen even more quickly if idiocy like being 26 scholarships short of the competition (79 vs. up to 105) takes hold. That just can't happen.
I'm not predicting the athletic department will be shut down, that we'll pursue a path other than the one we're on trying to rebuild the Pac-12, or anything else that a recruit showing up today would need to be overly worried about. The path to a broke, low- to mid-tier G of 5 program is plain as day, though. We're likely already there.
Truth! A bit of an off topic story ...
I was on the fence for pellet smokers until my buddy bought the 2nd or 3rd generation Traeger. Awesome grill. I still hemmed and hawed for a few years until another buddy bought a much later generation and declared it pure garbage. It was substantially worse than the one that almost convinced me.
What ultimately convinced me was my other buddy who spent a ton of time on research (and works in the outdoor retail industry) was convinced to buy a Yoder. He showed it to me last Easter and I was blown away by the difference between Traeger and Yoder. I bought the YS640S, and the sheer heft and durability, the size of the pellet hopper, the tighter control of temperature, and the accessories were far better than anything Traeger had to offer.
But it wasn't cheap (especially with all the accessories I ordered). I drove to a farm supply store in Oregon to get it. The price in fuel to drive there and back was worth the savings on sales tax.
I like your friend’s style. I researched for over a year, talked to everyone I know who had a smoker, and pretty quickly found that Traeger isn’t what they were. Ended up going with Green Mountain, and after some difficulty getting it set up on my network I’ve had no real complaints. I’ve only done a couple of long smokes, but everything has turned out a hell of a lot better than my old grill.
Back to schollies - what motivated the NCAA to move to 105 schollies? WSU isn’t the only school facing budget issues, are they trying hard to get CFB down to 18-22 schools?
And if I had to cut somewhere, I don’t know if this is a terrible place to cut. It’s not 1972 when USC and Texas could stockpile talent 4 deep with transfer rules that kept those guys on rosters. Kids want to play and they want NIL in that order. If WSU can pay kids direct I’d rather see 5th string scholarship $$ go for an NIL package for our 2nd team tackle.
And if I had to cut somewhere, I don’t know if this is a terrible place to cut. It’s not 1972 when USC and Texas could stockpile talent 4 deep with transfer rules that kept those guys on rosters. Kids want to play and they want NIL in that order. If WSU can pay kids direct I’d rather see 5th string scholarship $$ go for an NIL package for our 2nd team tackle.
