When is the Pac-12 going to announce media deal and expansion?

[UberCougars]

You think combining 20+ teams into an also-ran conference is something Networks are suddenly going to pay for?

Or, is your idea 💡 to accept TV money isn’t going to improve and the shortfall will be made up by Alaska Airlines?

 

[Observer11]

We need one friggin' football playing school. ONE. Or this whole exercise is a waste of friggin' time.

Get one of the following NOW and then let the chips fall where they may down the road:

Memphis
Tulane
UNLV
UTSA
New Mexico - Way underrated state. Highly recommend it.

All good travel spots - Coug fans would have a good time in any of those cities.

Dicking around and waiting and waiting and waiting just leads to a bunch of dicking around. Time is not our friend here. That's what blew up the Pac 12 because the commissioner and presidents dicked around thinking they were entitled to something better.

Action. Now.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Get one of the following NOW and then let the chips fall where they may down the road:
Memphis
Tulane
UNLV
UTSA
New Mexico

Are these five schools ranked in order?

New Mexico - Way underrated state. Highly recommend it.

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Not sure why UNM is rated lower by so many

Flagship school and ABQ is just outside Top 60 media markets. Great fan support for basketball, too

 

[dgibbons]

You guess wrong, counselor. "People", such as every other sports fan board in the world, agree that the reverse merger was the way to go. The thread on the WCS board is up to 177 pages. 176 of which is full of fans saying how F-ing stupid and backstabbing the Pac-2 is/was. And what chumps the Traitorous 5 were for believing our BS promises. "Swinging for the fences" per Teresa in September. Remember?

That said, answer my question - what pool of candidates? There wasn't one. So you tell me who should have been hired? Or do you think Teresa and Anne were home run hires?

You’re the one complaining that someone else should have been hired, so who should it have been? Would these mystery candidates have taken the job? Do tell. Your rants about both of them (now McCoy gets thrown into this too) do not make the positions better than they were at the time.

As you constantly ignore, the teams that left the MWC were not interested in a reverse merger.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

It won't matter what "available" university is added, this conference is going to be pointless. I'll call the baby ugly.

WSU half-assed athletics for decades, they promoted themselves to varsity mentality for a few years in the 2010s and then decided being JV was fine again.

WSU should go all in on academics.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

You’re the one complaining that someone else should have been hired, so who should it have been? Would these mystery candidates have taken the job? Do tell. Your rants about both of them (now McCoy gets thrown into this too) do not make the positions better than they were at the time.

As you constantly ignore, the teams that left the MWC were not interested in a reverse merger.

How about Gloria Nevarez? Beyond that, I am not familiar with potential Commissioner candidates. THAT'S WHY YOU DO A SEARCH. WSU's AD? Pull John Johnson out of his recent retirement (to Spokane I believe) for 2 years to shape thing up. Then do a search. Bottom line, 2 lazy hirings of unproven underlings. and look how that is working out.

Regarding the 5 traitors, I have not really followed that narrative closely. But let's say the Pac and MW would have immediately pursued the reverse merger AS PER THE SCHEDULING AGREEMENT. How against it were the 5 traitors at that point in time? December 2023? And what other options did they have? P4? No.

All this wailing about the MW bottom feeders. Who knows how it would have come together if there had been ANY negotiations? Maybe a couple of schools get booted or simply not invited. Maybe revenue, attendance standards get put into place. Gloria installed as Commissioner. Everybody wins. Now the Pac is reduced to chasing directional Texas Sun Belt schools because no one wants to touch the Pac.

At least the merger conversations should have been had instead of the Pac backstabbing the MW then trying to get out of the contractually agreed upon penalties.

 

[Observer11]

Are these five schools ranked in order?




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Not sure why UNM is rated lower by so many

Flagship school and ABQ is just outside Top 60 media markets. Great fan support for basketball, too

I'd take any of the listed to get to the required number of football playing schools. Don't really care which one -just get one.

In order of preference, I'd go with the places I like to travel:

1 -Tulane (New Orleans is amazing for a 3 or 4 day visit).
2 - Memphis - (Two to three days is about my max there -lots of cool bars with live music on Beale Street, Staxx Records, Graceland and out of this world BBQ).
3 - New Mexico - undiscovered gem. Once you have a green chile hamburger, you'll wonder WTF it took so long. Taos and Santa Fe are quick side trips with spectacular outdoor beauty.
4 - UTSA - San Antonio is a fun city. Riverwalk overrun by Cougs would be worth the trip.
5 - UNLV - just personally don't like Las Vegas because I've been there so many times for business. It's fine. Just fine.

 

[Dave_86]

Oh, my goodness!!! Real news about the media rights thing... all be it a little bit of news. Here's what we can find out that is not behind John Canzano's paywall...

John Canzano has some real breaking news. Click here.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Oh, my goodness!!! Real news about the media rights thing... all be it a little bit of news. Here's what we can find out that is not behind John Canzano's paywall...

John Canzano has some real breaking news. Click here.

I had kind of forgotten about 2025's media package. No hurry, it's still almost 5 months until the season opener. Plenty of time. All is well.

 

[Dave_86]

I got the John Canzano breaking news thing from this thread on Reddit:

Media update thread on Reddit

The original poster (OP) also included this in his post:

"Then, comes the new-look Pac-12’s media rights deal for 2026 and beyond. I’m told the two negotiations have moved in conjunction with each other."

That's probably a cut & paste from behind Canzano's paywall.

In any event, for more discussion on this, visit the Reddit thread I linked above.

 

[dgibbons]

How about Gloria Nevarez? Beyond that, I am not familiar with potential Commissioner candidates. THAT'S WHY YOU DO A SEARCH. WSU's AD? Pull John Johnson out of his recent retirement (to Spokane I believe) for 2 years to shape thing up. Then do a search. Bottom line, 2 lazy hirings of unproven underlings. and look how that is working out.

Regarding the 5 traitors, I have not really followed that narrative closely. But let's say the Pac and MW would have immediately pursued the reverse merger AS PER THE SCHEDULING AGREEMENT. How against it were the 5 traitors at that point in time? December 2023? And what other options did they have? P4? No.

All this wailing about the MW bottom feeders. Who knows how it would have come together if there had been ANY negotiations? Maybe a couple of schools get booted or simply not invited. Maybe revenue, attendance standards get put into place. Gloria installed as Commissioner. Everybody wins. Now the Pac is reduced to chasing directional Texas Sun Belt schools because no one wants to touch the Pac.

At least the merger conversations should have been had instead of the Pac backstabbing the MW then trying to get out of the contractually agreed upon penalties.

You do know that the Pac-12 had two members at the time Gould was hired, right?

 

[Loyal Coug1]

You do know that the Pac-12 had two members at the time Gould was hired, right?

Um, yes I do. All the more reason to make her at best a short-term caretaker rather than handed the keys. Was there a point to your comment? Because I'm not seeing it. And she was promoted, not hired.

 

[dgibbons]

Um, yes I do. All the more reason to make her at best a short-term caretaker rather than handed the keys. Was there a point to your comment? Because I'm not seeing it. And she was promoted, not hired.

What makes you think Gould is more than that (and given McCoy's age, her too)? Gould has been in the position for one year and one month.

Your persistent rants on this subject really don't make any sense. Five MWC schools have proven that they did not want to be in the same conference with the others.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

What makes you think Gould is more than that (and given McCoy's age, her too)? Gould has been in the position for one year and one month.

Your persistent rants on this subject really don't make any sense. Five MWC schools have proven that they did not want to be in the same conference with the others.

Ok, a couple of points then I am through with this. Let's see:

• As I said/asked before - then why weren't they screaming when the reverse merger pursuit was clearly called out in the scheduling agreement in December 2023?
• I am reading where BSU got $7.9M in media money this last year. So if, as rumored, the 2026 media deal will be $10M at best, and if BSU has to pay the full or most of their $17M in exit fees, ya think they might have buyer's remorse?
• And is it possible that the 5 traitors were "promised" more like $15M with the expectation that Memphis, Tulane(?), etc. were coming as Teresa "swang for the fences"? Pretty sure USU and Texas State don't fit that category

But whatever. We shall see how it all plays out.

 

[dgibbons]

Ok, a couple of points then I am through with this. Let's see:

• As I said/asked before - then why weren't they screaming when the reverse merger pursuit was clearly called out in the scheduling agreement in December 2023?
• I am reading where BSU got $7.9M in media money this last year. So if, as rumored, the 2026 media deal will be $10M at best, and if BSU has to pay the full or most of their $17M in exit fees, ya think they might have buyer's remorse?
• And is it possible that the 5 traitors were "promised" more like $15M with the expectation that Memphis, Tulane(?), etc. were coming as Teresa "swang for the fences"? Pretty sure USU and Texas State don't fit that category

But whatever. We shall see how it all plays out.

The five schools' actions speak for themselves, and we don't know what if anything was said behind closed doors. They were probably scheming for a Big XII or ACC invite and didn't mind a little more money in the interim. Not going to Hawaii would save considerable money on travel. I don't know what any of the schools were promised, but I don't get the point of speculating about it and then criticizing based on speculation. The five schools chose to leave. If the promises are not being kept, I think we would be hearing something or the schools would have figured out a way to bail.

 

[Dave_86]

As I said/asked before - then why weren't they screaming when the reverse merger pursuit was clearly called out in the scheduling agreement in December 2023?

Oregon Staters like myself would have stopped supporting Beaver Athletics had a reverse merger taken place. There is little or no support in Beaver Nation for a reverse merger. Frankly, I was absolutely disgusted when I saw the football scheduling agreement with the MWC.

I am reading where BSU got $7.9M in media money this last year. So if, as rumored, the 2026 media deal will be $10M at best, and if BSU has to pay the full or most of their $17M in exit fees, ya think they might have buyer's remorse?

Boise State will not have buyer's remorse. They have improved their brand by moving up a conference. By improving their brand, enrollment and donations will both increase. Even if the media deal is just $10M/school, Boise State will get a positive return on the investment.

And is it possible that the 5 traitors were "promised" more like $15M with the expectation that Memphis, Tulane(?), etc. were coming as Teresa "swang for the fences"? Pretty sure USU and Texas State don't fit that category

Not sure what happened there.

However, I was on a San Diego State message board this morning and their fans were speculating that in 5 or 6 years there will be another round of realignment, forming the super conference(s). When that happens, they believe, some of the old PAC-12 schools will be left out and consequently looking for a west coast conference to join. So, by keeping the PAC-12 at a minimum size (just 8 football schools), there will be room to add schools like Cal, UCLA, and Utah.

And, to take it a step further, one of the San Diego State fans posted that some officials (and/or A.D.s) with the PAC-12 conference also believe that in a few years some of the old PAC-12 schools will be returning.

I'm sure Boise State (& other MWC traitors) would love to see Cal, Utah, and UCLA return to the PAC-12.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Oregon Staters like myself would have stopped supporting Beaver Athletics had a reverse merger taken place. There is little or no support in Beaver Nation for a reverse merger. Frankly, I was absolutely disgusted when I saw the football scheduling agreement with the MWC.


Boise State will not have buyer's remorse. They have improved their brand by moving up a conference. By improving their brand, enrollment and donations will both increase. Even if the media deal is just $10M/school, Boise State will get a positive return on the investment.


Not sure what happened there.

However, I was on a San Diego State message board this morning and their fans were speculating that in 5 or 6 years there will be another round of realignment, forming the super conference(s). When that happens, they believe, some of the old PAC-12 schools will be left out and consequently looking for a west coast conference to join. So, by keeping the PAC-12 at a minimum size (just 8 football schools), there will be room to add schools like Cal, UCLA, and Utah.

And, to take it a step further, one of the San Diego State fans posted that some officials (and/or A.D.s) with the PAC-12 conference also believe that in a few years some of the old PAC-12 schools will be returning.

I'm sure Boise State (& other MWC traitors) would love to see Cal, Utah, and UCLA return to the PAC-12.

Salient points Dave. But aside from the Baseball program, OSU doesn't have a lot to crow about. No reverse merger? Then what? P4 ain't calling. Independent? Good luck there. From what I have perused (other than you, you are cool), Beav fans seem to think they are something that they aren't and never have been.

And Cal, UCLA and Utah are not coming back. Nor are any of the 10 traitors. Never. In my always humble but all-seeing opinion.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

The five schools' actions speak for themselves, and we don't know what if anything was said behind closed doors. They were probably scheming for a Big XII or ACC invite and didn't mind a little more money in the interim. Not going to Hawaii would save considerable money on travel. I don't know what any of the schools were promised, but I don't get the point of speculating about it and then criticizing based on speculation. The five schools chose to leave. If the promises are not being kept, I think we would be hearing something or the schools would have figured out a way to bail.

Speculating and criticizing? Isn't that what a fan message board is for? Regarding Hawaii, they could have stayed as a FB-only member under the merger situation. One trip every 2 years? What a burden. And hour much farther in airtime is Honolulu from Memphis and Tulane? An hour maybe?

 

[Dave_86]

From what I have perused (XXX), Beav fans seem to think they are something that they aren't and never have been.

LOL! Yes, it's true, we Beavers are a real 'stuck up' lot! And I totally agree, there appears to be no good reason for it.

Well done, Loyal Coug1, simply well done.

But the story is completely different than what you would expect.

From 1971 to 1998, Oregon State had 28 consecutive losing seasons in football. We sucked. We defined "door mat". But, we know who we are.

Then in 1999, the Great Saint Dennis Erickson arrived in Corvallis. You Cougs might know who he is. Saint Dennis lead us to a winning football season in 1999, first since 1970. And then in 2000, Saint Dennis lead us to a 11 win 1 loss season that ended in destroying Notre Dame 41-9 in the Fiesta Bowl.

As a result of what Saint Dennis did, the following has transpired in the last 25 years at Oregon State University:

• Student enrollment went up from about 15,000 students in 1999 to well over 30,000 today
• A bunch of new buildings and new dorms were built on campus (the nVidea founder is a Beaver & just bought us a new building...)
• Donations increased dramatically
• A bunch of new facilities were built for athletics, including a new stadium, indoor practice center, weight room, basketball practice courts, and much more
• All the academic snobs at the University were forced to agree that "A competitive football team is vital to the health and wellbeing of Oregon State University".

Given what the University has been through for the last 50 years, we take very seriously how conference realignment might impact OSU. To us, putting OSU in the best possible athletic conference is protecting Oregon State University.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

LOL! Yes, it's true, we Beavers are a real 'stuck up' lot! And I totally agree, there appears to be no good reason for it.

Well done, Loyal Coug1, simply well done.

But the story is completely different than what you would expect.

From 1971 to 1998, Oregon State had 28 consecutive losing seasons in football. We sucked. We defined "door mat". But, we know who we are.

Then in 1999, the Great Saint Dennis Erickson arrived in Corvallis. You Cougs might know who he is. Saint Dennis lead us to a winning football season in 1999, first since 1970. And then in 2000, Saint Dennis lead us to a 11 win 1 loss season that ended in destroying Notre Dame 41-9 in the Fiesta Bowl.

As a result of what Saint Dennis did, the following has transpired in the last 25 years at Oregon State University:

• Student enrollment went up from about 15,000 students in 1999 to well over 30,000 today
• A bunch of new buildings and new dorms were built on campus (the nVidea founder is a Beaver & just bought us a new building...)
• Donations increased dramatically
• A bunch of new facilities were built for athletics, including a new stadium, indoor practice center, weight room, basketball practice courts, and much more
• All the academic snobs at the University were forced to agree that "A competitive football team is vital to the health and wellbeing of Oregon State University".

Given what the University has been through for the last 50 years, we take very seriously how conference realignment might impact OSU. To us, putting OSU in the best possible athletic conference is protecting Oregon State University.

"Well done, Loyal Coug1, simply well done."

Thanks for the compliment (serious or not). But then, I hear that all the time here from my legion of loyal minions and followers.

Some of us remember that classic Civil War (forget the year, damn dementia) that ended in a 0-0 tie.

And yes, Cougs remember Dennis "this is my dream job" Erickson. After he dogged Wyoming after one season (I believe that they still hate him), then professed his undying love for WSU right before he boarded a private jet to Miami.

Peace, Beav.

 

[95coug]

I’d agree with the beaver contingent that predicts more movement ahead. Somewhere in 4-6 years, as the next contracts start coming due, I think there will be another step toward the superconference. I also think it’s likely that more teams/schools will find themselves left out. Us and the Beavs were just the first.
There’s not really any meat left on the Big 12 carcass. None of them are going up. The ACC will get picked clean, and Stanford & Cal will be wandering in the woods. Assuming Miami & FSU go to the superconference, they may decide to jettison some dead weight, and odds seem good that will be newcomers that struggle - like ucla and UW. USC and Oregon probably carry enough cash and tradition to hang on. Could also be that longtime members that are regular bottom feeders get bounced - looking at you, Purdue, Mizzou, and MSU.

 

[Dave_86]

Canzano just tweeted:

Pac-12 is zeroed in on a media rights deal for 2025. The CW is the primary broadcast partner for next season.

The 2026 deal won't be far behind it, I'm told.

John Canzano on X

Canzano's April 13th article just popped out from behind the paywall.

Canzano for free

Below, John Canzano talks PAC 12 media deal on his Podcast.

PAC-12 starts at 1 hour 54 minutes (you can click ahead; link below).

Patrick Crakes of Crakes Media joins the program to discuss the upcoming Pac-12 media rights deal. The CW has been announced as a partner for the 2025 Pac-12 football season with Oregon State and Washington State, and Crakes discusses if that is going to be a good deal for the conference and if The CW has a chance to stay with the conference for 2026. Crakes also discusses the potential for a TNT/Pac-12 deal. The big splash, the 5 at 5, and much more!

John Canzano is still talking. He interviews Patrick Crakes.

 

[BiggsCoug]

$40
Free Costco membership
$100 Starbucks gift card

That’s gonna be the media deal