Where are you at re: JG

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Scrolling through my twitter feed and JG is all over it tweeting about the bowl and selection, etc.

Was a little shocking because I figured that I would have stopped following him after the stuff this fall.

So CZ, where are you at with JG? Still in the dog house or has enough time passed for him to be part of Coug nation again?

 

[Observer11]

Either some serious drunk tweeting or somebody has created a shadow account to make the guy look even worse.

 

[chugspig]

He sucks. This isn’t a Coug or not thing, he’s a bad guy. He has to be seriously dumb to get on Twitter and start making fun of Browning et al after he proved himself to be a pile of sh*t.

 

[Suudy]

Either some serious drunk tweeting or somebody has created a shadow account to make the guy look even worse.

Well, it's a verified account. And he's been tweeting all season, apparently. So must be drunk tweets.

He's all over the place. Murray and Tua as the two best QBs, but not supporting Minshew? Trashing Browning and the P12 CG?

He should limit his tweets to 100% positive stuff for the Cougs.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

Scrolling through my twitter feed and JG is all over it tweeting about the bowl and selection, etc.

Was a little shocking because I figured that I would have stopped following him after the stuff this fall.

So CZ, where are you at with JG? Still in the dog house or has enough time passed for him to be part of Coug nation again?

First, I really don't have much emotional investment in twitter but I'm fine with JG tweeting if that works for him.

Second, Gesser is going to be persona non grata at WSU for another 3-5 years at a minimum. I don't know what he needs to do to change people's perception of him, but he's got to serve more time in purgatory.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

First, I really don't have much emotional investment in twitter but I'm fine with JG tweeting if that works for him.

Second, Gesser is going to be persona non grata at WSU for another 3-5 years at a minimum. I don't know what he needs to do to change people's perception of him, but he's got to serve more time in purgatory.

Its not really working for him. Half are generic retweets of Coug stuff, the rest is kinda off the reservation. I guess he's figuring he'll never be an official ambassador for WSU again, so he's gone full Walden.

 

[CrimsonDisciple]

I don’t have a problem with him at all. He’s got to work out his family situation. If he was a single guy, I don’t think what he did was any worse than what most single guys do when they are invited to a woman’s apartment after a night out....You make a move. It wasn’t like she was under age....she was in her late 20’s and out of college. She said no and took him home. Unfortunately, 75% of marriages have infidelity at one point or another. He’s just in the spotlight.... so fine, he got fired. He got what was coming to him and we should leave it at that. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good person. It means he’s got work to do as a husband and father. Frankly, it’s none of our business anymore. I’m rooting for him.

 

[Coug95man2]

I don’t have a problem with him at all. He’s got to work out his family situation. If he was a single guy, I don’t think what he did was any worse than what most single guys do when they are invited to a woman’s apartment after a night out....You make a move. It wasn’t like she was under age....she was in her late 20’s and out of college. She said no and took him home. Unfortunately, 75% of marriages have infidelity at one point or another. He’s just in the spotlight.... so fine, he got fired. He got what was coming to him and we should leave it at that. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good person. It means he’s got work to do as a husband and father. Frankly, it’s none of our business anymore. I’m rooting for him.

Nope for me. If all he did was hit on women, it wouldn't leave them feeling uneasy, paranoid and unable to tell their husband about the encounter, years later. He didn't just "make a move". The story(s) are awkward and cringeworthy. I don't want/need more details.

I have zero need for him.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

I don’t have a problem with him at all. He’s got to work out his family situation. If he was a single guy, I don’t think what he did was any worse than what most single guys do when they are invited to a woman’s apartment after a night out....You make a move. It wasn’t like she was under age....she was in her late 20’s and out of college. She said no and took him home. Unfortunately, 75% of marriages have infidelity at one point or another. He’s just in the spotlight.... so fine, he got fired. He got what was coming to him and we should leave it at that. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good person. It means he’s got work to do as a husband and father. Frankly, it’s none of our business anymore. I’m rooting for him.

The date thing was creeper and might have blown over given time.

Going hog to the sky assuming the masseuse is going to give you a handy because you're the famous JG is next level creeper

 

[dgibbons]

FWIW, I heard he was working for his uncle in the midwest. This was like fifth hand, so I have no idea whether it's true or not.

 

[Loyal Coug]

Scrolling through my twitter feed and JG is all over it tweeting about the bowl and selection, etc.

Was a little shocking because I figured that I would have stopped following him after the stuff this fall.

So CZ, where are you at with JG? Still in the dog house or has enough time passed for him to be part of Coug nation again?

I don't do Twitter, so I don't know what a "feed" is or why JG would pop up on yours unless you are still following him? And yes, he is definitely in the doghouse for a lot longer than this, maybe forever.

I don’t have a problem with him at all. He’s got to work out his family situation. If he was a single guy, I don’t think what he did was any worse than what most single guys do when they are invited to a woman’s apartment after a night out....You make a move. It wasn’t like she was under age....she was in her late 20’s and out of college. She said no and took him home. Unfortunately, 75% of marriages have infidelity at one point or another. He’s just in the spotlight.... so fine, he got fired. He got what was coming to him and we should leave it at that. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good person. It means he’s got work to do as a husband and father. Frankly, it’s none of our business anymore. I’m rooting for him.

I'm thinking that you didn't get the entire picture. The massage therapist? The other lengthy reports and allegations? That said, I am not completely disagreeing with you. Not sure I would call him a "good" person, pig seems more appropriate, but no he is not a molester or rapist or anything. Just a philanderer and a pig.

And that said, if I were him I would shy as far away from the public eye as possible for a lot longer than a couple of months. Kinda validates his apparent attitude. "I didn't do anything, why should I be quiet?"

 

[ShockandAweWSU]

He's always been about himself. I feel badly for his beautiful wife and beautiful family.

 

[Coug95man2]

The date thing was creeper and might have blown over given time.

Going hog to the sky assuming the masseuse is going to give you a handy because you're the famous JG is next level creeper

The part that I don't like is the situations span years. What... he did something creepy once every few years? Sorry but nope. There are more women out there that have stories. Maybe they're willing to brush it off, which is fine. They don't take it emotionally, that's up to them. But it also means there are women that will. Nope. He just makes my skin crawl.

My litmus test... Would I be OK with my daughter or wife working with him on a semi-daily basis? HELL NO. So he shouldn't be around my alma mater.

 

[Loyal Coug]

The part that I don't like is the situations span years. What... he did something creepy once every few years? Sorry but nope. There are more women out there that have stories. Maybe they're willing to brush it off, which is fine. They don't take it emotionally, that's up to them. But it also means there are women that will. Nope. He just makes my skin crawl.

My litmus test... Would I be OK with my daughter or wife working with him on a semi-daily basis? HELL NO. So he shouldn't be around my alma mater.

Your comments are meaningless without pictures of your wife and daughter so that we can assess the potential danger to them from JG.

 

[Coug95man2]

Your comments are meaningless without pictures of your wife and daughter so that we can assess the potential danger to them from JG.

**** You.

 

[CougPatrol]

Your comments are meaningless without pictures of your wife and daughter so that we can assess the potential danger to them from JG.

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[fingerdisco]

**** You.

No kidding. You'd think a guy that's alway pissing and moaning about all the inappropriate comments and getting picked on by Yaki would display a bit more taste.

 

[Loyal Coug]

Your comments are meaningless without pictures of your wife and daughter so that we can assess the potential danger to them from JG.

**** You.

WTF is wrong with you?

Geez you guys. I didn't say naked pictures. It was an obvious joke. Lighten up.

 

[Coug95man2]

Geez you guys. I didn't say naked pictures. It was an obvious joke. Lighten up.

**** you... again

 

[SaveFerris]

I don’t have a problem with him at all. He’s got to work out his family situation. If he was a single guy, I don’t think what he did was any worse than what most single guys do when they are invited to a woman’s apartment after a night out....You make a move. It wasn’t like she was under age....she was in her late 20’s and out of college. She said no and took him home. Unfortunately, 75% of marriages have infidelity at one point or another. He’s just in the spotlight.... so fine, he got fired. He got what was coming to him and we should leave it at that. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good person. It means he’s got work to do as a husband and father. Frankly, it’s none of our business anymore. I’m rooting for him.

You sure about that?

>>>Just a few blocks from her apartment, Bodeau said, Gesser placed his hand on her leg.

“He leaned in and tried to kiss me. I pulled away. I just said, ‘No,’” she said. “He asked, ‘Why?’ I said, ‘Because you are a married man and you have a family.’”

Bodeau said she allowed Gesser into her apartment. Once inside, he continued to attempt to kiss her and pushed his hands under her dress.

“I started to get really scared because he was not listening. I was terrified because I didn’t know what to do,” she said. “The more I kept telling him, ‘No’ and ‘Stop’ the more he kept telling me how much he liked me.”

She said she again reminded Gesser of his family.

At one point, she said, Gesser put his hand around Bodeau’s head and tried to force a kiss.

“I couldn’t pull away, so I put my hand in front of his mouth to try to stop him,” she said “It didn’t stop him. He started kissing my hand. I had no idea what was going on. I absolutely felt powerless.”

She said she then asked Gesser to leave.

“He said, ‘Everything is OK.’ That both confused and terrified me,” she said. “Nothing he was doing was OK.”

Bodeau said she drove Gesser back to his hotel and just before getting out of the car, “he leaned over and kissed me on the cheek. I didn’t expect it. Feeling that kiss on my cheek mostly made me want to vomit.”

Bodeau went home after dropping Gesser off at his hotel. “I curled up in the fetal position and cried myself to sleep,” she said.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/sep/17/wsu-places-jason-gesser-on-administrative-leave-fo/

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

You sure about that?

>>>Just a few blocks from her apartment, Bodeau said, Gesser placed his hand on her leg.

“He leaned in and tried to kiss me. I pulled away. I just said, ‘No,’” she said. “He asked, ‘Why?’ I said, ‘Because you are a married man and you have a family.’”

Bodeau said she allowed Gesser into her apartment. Once inside, he continued to attempt to kiss her and pushed his hands under her dress.

“I started to get really scared because he was not listening. I was terrified because I didn’t know what to do,” she said. “The more I kept telling him, ‘No’ and ‘Stop’ the more he kept telling me how much he liked me.”

She said she again reminded Gesser of his family.

At one point, she said, Gesser put his hand around Bodeau’s head and tried to force a kiss.

“I couldn’t pull away, so I put my hand in front of his mouth to try to stop him,” she said “It didn’t stop him. He started kissing my hand. I had no idea what was going on. I absolutely felt powerless.”

She said she then asked Gesser to leave.

“He said, ‘Everything is OK.’ That both confused and terrified me,” she said. “Nothing he was doing was OK.”

Bodeau said she drove Gesser back to his hotel and just before getting out of the car, “he leaned over and kissed me on the cheek. I didn’t expect it. Feeling that kiss on my cheek mostly made me want to vomit.”

Bodeau went home after dropping Gesser off at his hotel. “I curled up in the fetal position and cried myself to sleep,” she said.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/sep/17/wsu-places-jason-gesser-on-administrative-leave-fo/

Everything in the apartment after "no" was not ok. However...

I've always contended that something about the story was a little off. Here's a guy that you claim made two untoward passes at you while in the car, yet you invite him up to your apartment. I'm just having trouble reconciling that. At best she was sending very mixed signals, at worst she is lying about something for reasons unknown (to strengthen her story?)

Again, unacceptable to get as physical as he did so not a pass just because her story is off.

 

[dgibbons]

Everything in the apartment after "no" was not ok. However...

I've always contended that something about the story was a little off. Here's a guy that you claim made two untoward passes at you while in the car, yet you invite him up to your apartment. I'm just having trouble reconciling that. At best she was sending very mixed signals, at worst she is lying about something for reasons unknown (to strengthen her story?)

Again, unacceptable to get as physical as he did so not a pass just because her story is off.

There are holes that can be poked in the story. Roommate wasn't home. She let Gesser into her apartment, and drove him back to his hotel after all this. Where was the text, message, etc. to Kali Gesser saying something about being excited about going to the event with Jason? I'd want to see her texts, emails and social media posts for the week before and the week after the night in question.

It could be that he'd been drinking and she was worried about him getting a DUI. It could be that they'd had a prior relationship. It could be something else.

 

[Cougatron]

Gesser made a lot of mistakes. I think he needs to step back from the limelight in any way and just focus on rebuilding himself his image and his ethics.

He accomplished a tremendous amount as a Coug, but he also did some real dumb stuff especially when he was married and has children.

He was extraordinarily selfish and completely lacked self control, and he needs to make amends as best he can before he returns in any way regarding WSU.

 

[COUGinNCW]

FWIW, I heard he was working for his uncle in the midwest. This was like fifth hand, so I have no idea whether it's true or not.

I saw him at the warehouse in Spokane at an AAU tournie over thanksgiving with a pullman team. Possibly just visiting for the long weekend?

 

[CougPatrol]

There are holes that can be poked.....

Dude, seriously?

 

[Fab5Coug]

Well, it's a verified account. And he's been tweeting all season, apparently. So must be drunk tweets.

He's all over the place. Murray and Tua as the two best QBs, but not supporting Minshew? Trashing Browning and the P12 CG?

He should limit his tweets to 100% positive stuff for the Cougs.

He took a swipe at Schultz/Chun/WSU as well. Not a good look for him. Really not a good look.

 

[SaveFerris]

Everything in the apartment after "no" was not ok. However...

I've always contended that something about the story was a little off. Here's a guy that you claim made two untoward passes at you while in the car, yet you invite him up to your apartment. I'm just having trouble reconciling that. At best she was sending very mixed signals, at worst she is lying about something for reasons unknown (to strengthen her story?)

Again, unacceptable to get as physical as he did so not a pass just because her story is off.

She clearly rejected Gesser's advances. I'm not understanding where the "mixed signal" was there?

 

[HHusky]

She clearly rejected Gesser's advances. I'm not understanding where the "mixed signal" was there?

She didn't shoot him dead. Too confusing for JG. Thought that meant Maybe.

 

[dgibbons]

She didn't shoot him dead. Too confusing for JG. Thought that meant Maybe.

Swing and miss here. Killed in him the foot is what you were looking for.

 

[CougPatrol]

She clearly rejected Gesser's advances. I'm not understanding where the "mixed signal" was there?

I agree with you 100%, btw, but the one thing that always bothers me about some of these cases is the fact that, if you can’t see the entire situation play out, you don’t know the context. It’s not that i disbelieve women, but I think there are two sides of a the story. 99.9% change he was a douche, but I know women who disregard their role, and/or lie about their role in the issue. I’ll stop there.

 

[Loyal Coug]

I agree with you 100%, btw, but the one thing that always bothers me about some of these cases is the fact that, if you can’t see the entire situation play out, you don’t know the context. It’s not that i disbelieve women, but I think there are two sides of a the story. 99.9% change he was a douche, but I know women who disregard their role, and/or lie about their role in the issue. I’ll stop there.

WTF is wrong with you Patrol?

Well actually, you do. And you jump my shit because I made a harmless joke. Strange group we have here at Cougzone.

 

[CougPatrol]

Well actually, you do. And you jump my shit because I made a harmless joke. Strange group we have here at Cougzone.

A harmless joke? You made a reference about someone’s wife and daughter.

I made a comment that, without seeing the entire encounter unfold regarding what Gesser was accused of, we don’t know the entire story.

You trying to relate those comments isn’t surprising from what I’ve read from you on here.

 

[SaveFerris]

I agree with you 100%, btw, but the one thing that always bothers me about some of these cases is the fact that, if you can’t see the entire situation play out, you don’t know the context. It’s not that i disbelieve women, but I think there are two sides of a the story. 99.9% change he was a douche, but I know women who disregard their role, and/or lie about their role in the issue. I’ll stop there.

No question that I don't have much of any context beyond an article about what took place. I also made pretty huge assumptions so there's that as well. However, if her account is fairly accurate I don't buy the "single guy" and "make a move" comment or the "mixed signals". That mindset is pure BS in my book.

 

[Loyal Coug]

A harmless joke? You made a reference about someone’s wife and daughter.

I made a comment that, without seeing the entire encounter unfold regarding what Gesser was accused of, we don’t know the entire story.

You trying to relate those comments isn’t surprising from what I’ve read from you on here.

Allright I'm about done with this BS. 95man referenced that he wouldn't want his wife and daughter around JG. I did not insert them into the conversation now did I? No.

I made a quite humorous JOKE that his comment was useless without pics of wifey and daughter so we could assess the danger they were in from JG.

So I suppose you could infer that I was suggesting that wifey and daughter might not be attractive enough for JG to try to grope. But I didn't say that, now did I? Exactly what did I say to incur all this nastiness? In a word, nothing. Did I say anything disparaging about said wife and daughter? No.

So if you and 95man and discoduck want to articulate the reason that he and you are all pissed off at me, well then I am all ears.

Anyway, sorry 95man for whatever you thought I was saying about your probably lovely wife and wonderful daughter. I meant no offense or insult. Again, I don't understand what the hubbub is all about. Feel free to educate me and I will immediately give an even more sincere apology.

I sure as shit wouldn't want MY daughter or (former) wife around JG, and if he pulled any of his groping BS towards them I would arrive quickly and kick his Haole ass.

All that said, I'm done with this topic. (unless the requested education occurs). Peace.

 

[CougPatrol]

Yup, I’m done with it too. I’ve really grown tired of the below the belt attacks on here. We’ve all had our moments over the years, but it’s really bad now. It’s a shame too, because these are historically good times for WSU.

 

[CougPatrol]

No question that I don't have much of any context beyond an article about what took place. I also made pretty huge assumptions so there's that as well. However, if her account is fairly accurate I don't buy the "single guy" and "make a move" comment or the "mixed signals". That mindset is pure BS in my book.

No question. Stereotypes exist for a reason in most cases, and a former QB and small town celebrity crossing the line with young women is sadly believable. On the other hand, women aren’t always honest in these cases either.

Either way, I’m ok with JG staying away for good.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

Yup, I’m done with it too. I’ve really grown tired of the below the belt attacks on here. We’ve all had our moments over the years, but it’s really bad now. It’s a shame too, because these are historically good times for WSU.

Yesterday, I started a thread showing what Minshew has been tweeting but it got no traction. It's apparently more satisfying to bitch about our lot in life and decide how big of a prick each poster is.

 

[Coug95man2]

Allright I'm about done with this BS. 95man referenced that he wouldn't want his wife and daughter around JG. I did not insert them into the conversation now did I? No.

I made a quite humorous JOKE that his comment was useless without pics of wifey and daughter so we could assess the danger they were in from JG.

So I suppose you could infer that I was suggesting that wifey and daughter might not be attractive enough for JG to try to grope. But I didn't say that, now did I? Exactly what did I say to incur all this nastiness? In a word, nothing. Did I say anything disparaging about said wife and daughter? No.

So if you and 95man and discoduck want to articulate the reason that he and you are all pissed off at me, well then I am all ears.

Anyway, sorry 95man for whatever you thought I was saying about your probably lovely wife and wonderful daughter. I meant no offense or insult. Again, I don't understand what the hubbub is all about. Feel free to educate me and I will immediately give an even more sincere apology.

I sure as shit wouldn't want MY daughter or (former) wife around JG, and if he pulled any of his groping BS towards them I would arrive quickly and kick his Haole ass.

All that said, I'm done with this topic. (unless the requested education occurs). Peace.

Apology accepted, Loyal. As far as what you did and the reaction you got from me... I'll try to explain but I'm sorry dude. That was a joke that I could see a close friend, back in my early, early years TRYING to make, to be funny. And it falling flat on it's face then. Or just a way to start a fight. That was a pretty close, intimate joke that MIGHT happen between friends. But we aren't even that, are we? But then after getting a reaction from me, you doubled down with the comment about not asking for naked pics? Just felt like you were expecting everyone to go "Ohhhhhhhh!!!!!" cover their mouth in shock. Then slowly say, "Daaaamn! That was harsh!" or something. Wasn't a joke. It was for reaction. You got one. Craziest part is, you asking for an explanation...

And when talking about assault, of any kind on women, my family has seen enough of that. And I'm always going to be pretty touche about that. So the topic was already tee'ed up for me. Then a comment (joke) like that?

Here's the thing though Loyal... What did you expect from a group of strangers? You really didn't think there would be someone with assault in their family that would take exception to your "joke"? Worst numbers I've seen is 1 out of every 4 women have been assaulted in some form. Legally. Best case scenario, 6 out of 100. I'd probably say it's somewhere in the middle, maybe 20% of women...

Anyways, I'm not expecting you to be all "snowflaky" and sensitive and all. But conversely, I basically felt like I'm sticking up for my wife and kid. You do your thing man. I get that. But expect others to do so, as well. Did you know (or care) that there was assault in my family? Surely not. But again... that's my point. Jokes about assault are probably going to get a reaction from someone, every time. And probably a strong one.

I just don't get it. You must be a very socially awkward person to not get how this joke is in poor taste. but whatever. I explained. Now you know. We're done. Lets move on.

 

[Loyal Coug]

Apology accepted, Loyal. As far as what you did and the reaction you got from me... I'll try to explain but I'm sorry dude. That was a joke that I could see a close friend, back in my early, early years TRYING to make, to be funny. And it falling flat on it's face then. Or just a way to start a fight. That was a pretty close, intimate joke that MIGHT happen between friends. But we aren't even that, are we? But then after getting a reaction from me, you doubled down with the comment about not asking for naked pics? Just felt like you were expecting everyone to go "Ohhhhhhhh!!!!!" cover their mouth in shock. Then slowly say, "Daaaamn! That was harsh!" or something. Wasn't a joke. It was for reaction. You got one. Craziest part is, you asking for an explanation...

And when talking about assault, of any kind on women, my family has seen enough of that. And I'm always going to be pretty touche about that. So the topic was already tee'ed up for me. Then a comment (joke) like that?

Here's the thing though Loyal... What did you expect from a group of strangers? You really didn't think there would be someone with assault in their family that would take exception to your "joke"? Worst numbers I've seen is 1 out of every 4 women have been assaulted in some form. Legally. Best case scenario, 6 out of 100. I'd probably say it's somewhere in the middle, maybe 20% of women...

Anyways, I'm not expecting you to be all "snowflaky" and sensitive and all. But conversely, I basically felt like I'm sticking up for my wife and kid. You do your thing man. I get that. But expect others to do so, as well. Did you know (or care) that there was assault in my family? Surely not. But again... that's my point. Jokes about assault are probably going to get a reaction from someone, every time. And probably a strong one.

I just don't get it. You must be a very socially awkward person to not get how this joke is in poor taste. but whatever. I explained. Now you know. We're done. Lets move on.

95 - thanks for the explanation, and (with that understanding) I apologize again. I get it now. In my (lame) defense, I do not give JG a pass on his behavior, or anyone else for abusive behavior. I have a daughter too. Peace.

 

[Coug90]

Your comments are meaningless without pictures of your wife and daughter so that we can assess the potential danger to them from JG.

Some jokes are better left in your head dude